Imran Khan says Army Generals are cowards

[VCheng]

Turkey - learn from it.

Do you mean to prosecute the top Generals for their crimes?

 

[Chak Bamu]

Do you mean to prosecute the top Generals for their crimes?

Such leading questions would not keep this thread alive. I want gradual strengthening of democratic institutions without any one succeeding in disrupting our constitution.


It would be more worthwhile to talk about Neha Ansari's account of certain media houses being used to undermine democratic institutions and our goveenment. While there are influential people happily playing as pawns, we would be lucky to continue down the constitutional path. In any case somebody might have launched a thread about her article in FP. If not, you may do the honors. There's plenty of masala for you to indulge in.

 

[VCheng]

Such leading questions would not keep this thread alive. I want gradual strengthening of democratic institutions without any one succeeding in disrupting our constitution.


It would be more worthwhile to talk about Neha Ansari's account of certain media houses being used to undermine democratic institutions and our goveenment. While there are influential people happily playing as pawns, we would be lucky to continue down the constitutional path. In any case somebody might have launched a thread about her article in FP. If not, you may do the honors. There's plenty of masala for you to indulge in.

That thread is already here:

Exposed: How Pakistani media bosses told their papers/TVs to support Dhernas

Gradual strengthening of democratic institutions without any one succeeding in disrupting our constitution is a noble goal that everybody pays lip service to vehemently, until it is time to destroy in it the "larger national interest" as declared by a select few. And then the whole damn cycle repeats as the world leaves us further and further behind.

 

[PiyaraPakistan]

If its true then 1000 lanat is kanjar IK per.

 

[B+ Dracula]

I read this book and Qudart ullah shahib is not neutral when he wrote about Ayub khan, Yahya khan and ZAB but you also need to study relations between Yahaya Khan and ZAB. And read Aaltaf hussain quershi and others to get some idea of ZAB personality.
Pakistan division is not only due to Majeeb and Yahya there are other players who are main beneficiaries.

ZAB is good 4 me ... ??
Initiated Atomic Programme
Islamic Conference 1974
1973 Constitution
Russian Iron Oar Techonology transfer....Pak steel Mills
Global Power balance politics b/t USA,China,Russia

Idiosyncrasy Score:- 100 folds Educated, 10 fold Visionary, 100 fold Orator, 1000 fold Good-Marketer (successfully sold what he beleive true)

Hidden Angels 4m Public :- 1) Learned all major books in the Pakistan Biggest Library bcoz he was rich guy & wont need to go for menial day to day work 2) written down letter to Queen of England ..and claimed for our historical treasure "KOHI-NOOR Heera" back 3) Agitated in front of Ayub Khan for Myopic decision of selling 3 Dams to india for little sum .....which at that time have no value...but now in 2014...we're crying for it

ZAB is Bad 4 me ... ??
a) Bad decision of Nationalisation of Private Business
b) Confused amalgamation of Islam with Socialism
c) Balochistan Operation
d) Mishandled Qadyani issue
e) Over Confidence mistakes in Politics ...nearly voilating infringes of ARROGANCE
f) Introduced Islamic Zealot Parties factor
g) Sindhi Card fatal mistake.... introduced first time in political arena

 

[Danish saleem]

few facts are,

our Almost all the strategic Weapons acquired or developed in democracies.

like.

Atomic Program Zulfiqar Ali Bhutto Hanged.
Missile Program Benazir Bhotto Killed.
Agosta Subs Benazir Bhotto Killed.
Atomic Explosions JF-17 and Al Khalid Tanks.. Nawaz Sharif arrested and sent to exile!

 

[muslim_pakistani]

ZAB is good 4 me ... ??
Initiated Atomic Programme
Islamic Conference 1974
1973 Constitution
Russian Iron Oar Techonology transfer....Pak steel Mills
Global Power balance politics b/t USA,China,Russia

Idiosyncrasy :- 100 folds Educated, 10 fold Visionary, 100 fold Orator, 1000 fold Good-Marketer (successfully sold what he beleive true)

Hidden Angels 4m Public :- 1) Learned all major books in the Pakistan Biggest Library bcoz he was rich guy & wont need to go for menial day to day work 2) written down letter to Queen of England ..and claimed for our historical treasure "KOHI-NOOR Heera" back 3) Agitated in front of Ayub Khan for Myopic decision of selling 3 Dams to india for little sum .....which at that time have no value...but now in 2014...we're crying for it

ZAB is Bad 4 me ... ??
a) Bad decision of Nationalisation of Private Business
b) Confused amalgamation of Islam with Socialism
c) Balochistan Operation
d) Mishandled Qadyani issue
e) Over Confidence mistakes in Politics ...nearly voilating infringes of ARROGANCE
f) Introduced Islamic Zealot Parties factor
g) Sindhi Card fatal mistake.... introduced first time in political arena

He has some good, some bad
ZAB is good 4 me
Initiated Atomic Program
1973 Constitution
Islamic Conference 1974 (but it is second conference and can not neglect other leadership e.g. Shah Faisal etc)
ZAB is Bad 4 me
a)His stubborn stance after December 1970 election
b) I agree with your a,c,g stance
But other things there are comprises and doubts so neutral opinion may not possible

 

[Viper0011.]

@orangzaib

Real follower of the cult.

Yea, I follow the cult that ensures a stable Pakistan. A mental patient belongs to a psychiatric facility. If you don't take him to the right facility and give him meds.....he might go find a few people to believe in him and will end up attacking an entirely different facility (like, let say, the Parliament and National TV).

Lying, bs'ing, showing no progress, having no credible plans to do anything, but LIE and LIE and resort to Threats and Violence isn't normal people's traits. Its a mental disorder and the person doing these things requires medicines. Google Bi-Polar disorder and read symptoms, also google "paranoid schizophrenia".

Learn about who you follow and what they are about to do to your nation before supporting them. People with this disorder will run a country the SAME way, they ran their household....which is disturbed and divided between Pakistan and UK.

A person who couldn't keep his wife and kids together, can't keep a country together. As humans, the MOST important thing to people is their kids. Bi-Polar and Schizophrenic people can't manage normal relationships and life issues, they however have paranoid ideas that EVERYONE is against them, the rigging, the foul play, the current government is after them......VERY basic signs of mental disorders. Just google it to educate yourself.

Compared to a mental patient who's running an entire country down the drain, I'd RATHER support democratic, progress making people, (remember, no one has provided a legal proof of ONE wrongdoing over the two years against he current government outside of "talks and accusations").

So call this a "CULT" but peaceful, democratic team of people will be supported as they are the ones making peaceful progress and a difference in average, poor Pakistani's lives!!! Give them a couple of more year and you'll see a foundation set strong for your country.
Put the mental patient in the right facility so he doesn't go attack the wrong facility again like another attack on the Parliament or something silly like that. This guy's a lose canon, his brain and tongue are connected and running with Bi-Polar electricity, not mature, sane thoughts. There is no sense there, just all verbiage. Its just brain-based PS3 in his mind. You can't let the entire country and a nation of 200 million people play a sick person's brain PS3!!!

 

[Viper0011.]

This question related to Pakistan politics, Not about Army capabilities. what IK is saying shows his frustration that generals did not provide opportunity to him to became PM of Pakistan and he has still wait.

WAIT.....the "GENERALS" aka, the Public Servant, directly under the Civilian Government are supposed to be providing Job Opportunities to politicians???? Read my statement like three times. Tell me if it sounds wrong to you too. No general or ANYONE should be providing ANY career opportunity to ANYONE. That's treason. Plus, the Army will never get involved in Civilian Matters. This is 2014, not 1980 or 2002. The military wants the country to be run by people who specialize in growing a nation's economy, not support a mentally upset person's fantasies to becoming a PM and pushing the entire country down the ditch. A person who couldn't manage his wife and kids, can't manage a complex country called Pakistan!

How backwards you guys mental imagination be? So the military is NOW the job provider? Great!! IK needs to start taking his brain medications. The guy is as Bi Polar as they come. I can't believe how people support this guy's crazy thought process, ideas and calls for violence. If you use common sense, you can just tell how wrong his ideas sound and they have no linking to actual reality. Its all a bran-based PS3 in a mental patients head. And people impressed with his cricket past, actually believe in his mental imagination!!!

 

[Waffen SS]

We all know IK is an idiot but when the military keeps interfering in politics, it can't expect to have respect in the eyes of the public.

Respect for the armed forces is reserved only for those who stay away from politics. Pakistan Army has interfered so frequently that it can't be respected whatsoever.

A country where people expect the COAS (a government servant) to throw out his boss (an elected PM - the Chief Executive) can only be considered a failed state.

IK's expectations are not only due to his idiocy but also due to Army's political meddling.

 

[IceCold]

We won lot of world cups without IK.
1971,1982 and 1994 Hockey world cup. Are you know names of captains?
I am not referring squash world opens here.
If cricket is all thing then my vote for Ricky Pointing three world cups as he won 3/3 where Ik won 1/3 due to luck.

He is not doing corruption but economy damage due to his stubborn and immature self assumed stance is more then courrption.
ZAB, Sheikh Mujabi and Yahaya Khan are also not corrupt but damage is done to country is worst. There is only power hunger in 1971 and now Ik playing same game

Pakistan could not won a world cup after Imran

Read the line again patwari genius i said Pakistan could not won a world cup after Imran and that is true because we did not and i am referring to cricket. Yes we did won world cup before which is why i said we did not after Imran. And is the hockey captain you are referring to a politician, Yes? If he his i will support him over the stupid morons we have as politicians the likes of King Al-Sharif and 10%.

And you deliberately chose not to reply to my other post and just nitpicked what suited your agenda. IK maybe playing the same game but that is anybody's guess but what about the leaches we have who have been ruling this country in one form or the other. Its either PML N or PPP with the exception of 8 years of Musharraf and country remains as shitty as ever. So let me ask you this while you continue to criticize a man who has never been too power, what about those who have constantly ruled this country and made it from bad to worst?

 

[muslim_pakistani]

Read the line again patwari genius i said Pakistan could not won a world cup after Imran and that is true because we did not and i am referring to cricket. Yes we did won world cup before which is why i said we did not after Imran. And is the hockey captain you are referring to a politician, Yes? If he his i will support him over the stupid morons we have as politicians the likes of King Al-Sharif and 10%.

And you deliberately chose not to reply to my other post and just nitpicked what suited your agenda. IK maybe playing the same game but that is anybody's guess but what about the leaches we have who have been ruling this country in one form or the other. Its either PML N or PPP with the exception of 8 years of Musharraf and country remains as shitty as ever. So let me ask you this while you continue to criticize a man who has never been too power, what about those who have constantly ruled this country and made it from bad to worst?

My dear Potian genius I only place facts for your kind information. I answered your questions if you can understand read again and deliberate what is said? You can prefer anyone it is your choice it may be AH, ZAB, NS, IK,TUQ etc but do not become psychic to guessing about others.

My counting is weak I do not know 1994 came before 1992.

 

[Pakistani E]

IK logic: Sindhis are slaves, Punjabis are weak, the Media is bought, and the generals are cowards. Imran Khan Niazi is the only free, strong, honest and brave person left in a nation of 200,000,000 people. This man is the very definition of an egomaniac.

 

[IceCold]

My dear Potian genius I only place facts for your kind information. I answered your questions if you can understand read again and deliberate what is said? You can prefer anyone it is your choice it may be AH, ZAB, NS, IK,TUQ etc but do not become psychic to guessing about others.

My counting is weak I do not know 1994 came before 1992.

Which cricket world cup did we won after 92? Please enlighten us all maybe i have missed a world cup?

And Please dont bring in hockey or squash because it is Imran we are discussing about.

 

[karakoram]

Which cricket world cup did we won after 92? Please enlighten us all maybe i have missed a world cup?

And Please dont bring in hockey or squash because it is Imran we are discussing about.

2009 cricket world cup T20