Imran Khan likely to visit Bangladesh in May

[Old School]

Please don't write India and Bangladesh together. Doesn't matter what is happening in Bangladeshi politics, that's not reality. Reality is completely different.

I would also like to read views from some of your veteran and 'celebrity' army officers who are also frequent visitors of this forum. They seem to be spending more time on Facebook these days !

 

[VikingRaider]

I would also like to read views from some of your veteran and 'celebrity' army officers who are also frequent visitors of this forum. They seem to be spending more time on Facebook these days !

Then it's better you should find and ask them!

 

[Old School]

Then it's better you should find and ask them!

I want you guys to read their views because they are effectively banned from BD media. Some are absconding too. I can meet them whenever I want to.

 

[Baby Leone]

If I remember correctly, last time Bangladesh refused to attend D8 conferences in Islamabad due to some Apology issue. So what is changed now this time ?

venue

 

[Green Arrow]

Soviet economy was in stagnation since the 60s it would have broken up one way or the other... I get why America trained taliban but they turned to be a bigger problem for everyone and now even America can’t control the fire they helped spread.
Ideology is a tool to control ofc, but it isn’t something US believed in


You have some proof to back this up?

Well a few clarification is needed here. First of all it was not Taliban who fought again Soviet. Taliban was the product of Afghan civil war which happened after the Soviet left and due to incompetence of Afghan government in 1990 specially after The rule of president Rabbani. Taliban came to power around in 1995 and swept in 95% of Afghanistan. The Americans did not train them and neither Pakistan provided any military or Financial assistance except Political support. Taliban were the young student of Kandahar religious schools with Mullah Omar their leader. Mullah Omar never fought in Soviet as he was a kid in those time.

The people who fought again Soviet in 1979 till 1988 were the likes of Ahmed Shah Masood, Rabbani, Rasheed Dostum and Gulbadin Hikmat Yaar. These were called as Mujahideen and invited to the White House. They all fought against Soviet with the help of Americans and Pakistanis. These are not Taliban as All of them later fought against Taliban under Northern Alliance umbrella.

 

[bluesky]

It takes time to build up trust you simply don't send your head of state when hasina has been barking against Pakistan every opportunity she gets. Anyways we will find out soon if IK will visit or not.

It is not a state visit. IK has been invited to attend the D-8 meeting and the venue is Dhaka. However, I have reasons to believe that this visit will open other avenues between the two countries.

 

[Michael Corleone]

Well a few clarification is needed here. First of all it was not Taliban who fought again Soviet. Taliban was the product of Afghan civil war which happened after the Soviet left and due to incompetence of Afghan government in 1990 specially after The rule of president Rabbani. Taliban came to power around in 1995 and swept in 95% of Afghanistan. The Americans did not train them and neither Pakistan provided any military or Financial assistance except Political support. Taliban were the young student of Kandahar religious schools with Mullah Omar their leader. Mullah Omar never fought in Soviet as he was a kid in those time.

The people who fought again Soviet in 1979 till 1988 were the likes of Ahmed Shah Masood, Rabbani, Rasheed Dostum and Gulbadin Hikmat Yaar. These were called as Mujahideen and invited to the White House. They all fought against Soviet with the help of Americans and Pakistanis. These are not Taliban as All of them later fought against Taliban under Northern Alliance umbrella.

Mujahideens as termed by Washington was the same group (namely Pashtuns) that formed the taliban after soviet defeat

 

[Green Arrow]

Mujahideens as termed by Washington was the same group (namely Pashtuns) that formed the taliban after soviet defeat

No. Taliban were the handful group of Madressa Students who started this movement initially in 1994-1995 and gained strength later. Name Taliban came from a Urdu word Talib means A student and Taliban means group of student mostly Pashtun origin. As mentioned before most of Taliban people never participated in Afghan war 1979-1989 and people who fought against soviet were fighting against Taliban later in 1990s.

 

[Old School]

Mullah Omar never fought in Soviet as he was a kid in those time.

Mullah Omar (born in 1960) fought against the Soviets and got wounded several times. He belonged to Hezb e Islami Khalis faction at that time of 1982.

 

[Green Arrow]

Mullah Omar (born in 1960) fought against the Soviets and got wounded several times. He belonged to Hezb e Islami Khalis faction at that time of 1982.

He may have participated in Soviets in some minor capacity like million of Afghans people but he was never on the front line and Americans never dealt with him during soveit era. I bet you never knew his name before 1996. He was kind of mistarious personality though and not much information is there about him.

 

[Pan-Islamic-Pakistan]

Well a few clarification is needed here. First of all it was not Taliban who fought again Soviet. Taliban was the product of Afghan civil war which happened after the Soviet left and due to incompetence of Afghan government in 1990 specially after The rule of president Rabbani. Taliban came to power around in 1995 and swept in 95% of Afghanistan. The Americans did not train them and neither Pakistan provided any military or Financial assistance except Political support. Taliban were the young student of Kandahar religious schools with Mullah Omar their leader. Mullah Omar never fought in Soviet as he was a kid in those time.

The people who fought again Soviet in 1979 till 1988 were the likes of Ahmed Shah Masood, Rabbani, Rasheed Dostum and Gulbadin Hikmat Yaar. These were called as Mujahideen and invited to the White House. They all fought against Soviet with the help of Americans and Pakistanis. These are not Taliban as All of them later fought against Taliban under Northern Alliance umbrella.

Great history lesson, brother. Facts are facts and cannot be changed.

Mujahideens as termed by Washington was the same group (namely Pashtuns) that formed the taliban after soviet defeat

Don't talk about an issue of which you have zero knowledge.

 

[Old School]

He may have participated in Soviets in some minor capacity like million of Afghans people but he was never on the front line and Americans never dealt with him during soveit era. I bet you never knew his name before 1996. He was kind of mistarious personality though and not much information is there about him.

I agree. It is called 'framing' in order to change people's past and construct new identities. However, the same applies to many famous people. The old Soviet KGB took framing to a whole new height through forgeries and dubious anecdotes. They were the masters of framing.

 

[Michael Corleone]

Don't talk about an issue of which you have zero knowledge

Mate I don’t need biased knowledge from you. I don’t read up my history from the likes of Indian/ pakistani sources

 

[Pan-Islamic-Pakistan]

Mate I don’t need biased knowledge from you. I don’t read up my history from the likes of Indian/ pakistani sources

Why did you hyphenate Indian with Pakistan when the historical reality of both is the exact opposite? Our heroes are Islamic conquerors, while they are villains to Indians.

Please refrain from doing that in the future.

 

[Michael Corleone]

Why did you hyphenate Indian with Pakistan when the historical reality of both is the exact opposite? Our heroes are Islamic conquerors, while they are villains to Indians.

Please refrain from doing that in the future.

Villains to present govt maybe. I’m not here for biased debate