Imran Khan is our Red Line !!! پاکستان_کا_فیصلہ_عمران_خان

[blain2]

Thats the crux. They cannot.

If they do, their influence will be all gone. That will translate to no luxuries after retirement, no farmhouses, no pizza franchises, no gymkhana memberships etc.

This is not the reason. You folks keep on gravitating towards this rudimentary reasoning. If the argument is that army is doing all of this to continue with above perks, then recall that IK and PTI government never got in the way of it. The army had a free reign under PTI government and before as well.

Establishment's misguided stance is grounded in external factors.

 

[Olympus81]

This is not the reason. You folks keep on gravitating towards this rudimentary reasoning. If the argument is that army is doing all of this to continue with above perks, then recall that IK and PTI government never got in the way of it. The army had a free reign under PTI government and before as well.

Establishment's misguided stance is grounded in external factors.

Your point is taken. Maybe the truth is somewhere in both.

If the Establishment has redirected their rudder towards the US, why has China’s engagement not lowered. The Chinese are still readily supplying Pakistan with high end weapons, diplomatically still engaging Pakistan very much. Or am I missing something.

Or is there something more that meets the eye? Has the weak point been identified and the top brass is being blackmailed?

 

[ghazi52]

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https://twitter.com/x/status/1659177365883191300

 

[AA_]

Your point is taken. Maybe the truth is somewhere in both.

If the Establishment has redirected their rudder towards the US, why has China’s engagement not lowered. The Chinese are still readily supplying Pakistan with high end weapons, diplomatically still engaging Pakistan very much. Or am I missing something.

Or is there something more that meets the eye? Has the weak point been identified and the top brass is being blackmailed?

This is exactly what occurred. One weak link with connections to other weak leaks. The Americans and their Indian bitches found a way to strategically neuter this pathetic army. Brother I swear, if I had the opportunity and control in 02/2019 or 3/2022, I would’ve have raze Delhi and IOK would’ve become a large grave for all the eastern rats. I would have taken the domestic fifth columnists as well. It’s kind boggling at the cowardice of those ruling over lions.

 

[Olympus81]

This is exactly what occurred. One weak link with connections to other weak leaks. The Americans and their Indian bitches found a way to strategically neuter this pathetic army. Brother I swear, if I had the opportunity and control in 02/2019 or 3/2022, I would’ve have raze Delhi and IOK would’ve become a large grave for all the eastern rats. I would have taken the domestic fifth columnists as well. It’s kind boggling at the cowardice of those ruling over lions.

Well that escalated quickly.

Establishment to Delhi and IoK.

 

[AA_]

Well that escalated quickly.

Establishment to Delhi and IoK.

They’re on the same side - killing Muslims. Not surprised at this recent “converted” sons of Sikhs. Look at their faces and behavior.

 

[blain2]

Your point is taken. Maybe the truth is somewhere in both.

If the Establishment has redirected their rudder towards the US, why has China’s engagement not lowered. The Chinese are still readily supplying Pakistan with high end weapons, diplomatically still engaging Pakistan very much. Or am I missing something.

Or is there something more that meets the eye? Has the weak point been identified and the top brass is being blackmailed?

I think the dunda is of amreeki origin.

Even if personally compromised, the sitting CoAS has enough means at his disposal to turn the tide around against PDM or even his predecessors and their set up (i.e. Bajwa and cohort) if they are blackmailing him.

The issue is not with the Chinese. They have always held that as long as Pakistan is not directly working against them and their interests (which we don't), they don't have an issue with Pakistan maintaining ties with the US. The problem is on the US side. The cold shoulder continues, the arming of India continues, our financial malaise continues etc. etc.

 

[ghazi52]

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Is there any hope for boomers?
Just saw interviews from PDM protests and most of the boomers are so gullible and they believe the stories like yahudi/qadiyani etc.
This narrative against IK is so strong as it was built over decades (I can remember stories from 2005 about him being a 'yahudi') and the numbers of hyper religious people is huge in Pakistan.
My question is, how can PTI win over this boomer lot for whom progress, education, health and rights are foreign concepts?

https://www.reddit.com/r/pakistan/comments/13kcy8l

 

[Olympus81]

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Is there any hope for boomers?
Just saw interviews from PDM protests and most of the boomers are so gullible and they believe the stories like yahudi/qadiyani etc.
This narrative against IK is so strong as it was built over decades (I can remember stories from 2005 about him being a 'yahudi') and the numbers of hyper religious people is huge in Pakistan.
My question is, how can PTI win over this boomer lot for whom progress, education, health and rights are foreign concepts?

https://www.reddit.com/r/pakistan/comments/13kcy8l

Time is not on their side.

With more young people able to vote, the boomers influence will reduce over time.

 

[Khan-01]

Thats the crux. They cannot.

If they do, their influence will be all gone. That will translate to no luxuries after retirement, no farmhouses, no pizza franchises, no gymkhana memberships etc.

As expected karachi is the first place where both people and members have abandoned Imran Khan no wonder why it's in this situation

.,.,
Is there any hope for boomers?
Just saw interviews from PDM protests and most of the boomers are so gullible and they believe the stories like yahudi/qadiyani etc.
This narrative against IK is so strong as it was built over decades (I can remember stories from 2005 about him being a 'yahudi') and the numbers of hyper religious people is huge in Pakistan.
My question is, how can PTI win over this boomer lot for whom progress, education, health and rights are foreign concepts?

https://www.reddit.com/r/pakistan/comments/13kcy8l

That's not it .. Nawaz sharif and especially benazir to boomers is like Imran Khan.

Benazir was very charismatic and had a lot of things right

Even nawaz sharif was very good at things when he was young in his 30s then he ate too much biryani and got vascular dementia due to cardio vascular disease