Identity crisis - how do we fix this?

[lastofthepatriots]

In most places not in the north, the two are synonymous.

What you get in most non-north places is a reddish tomato based gravy with butter inside.

The butter chicken in the north as well as their daal is to die for. Small nondescript dhabas on the highways. Fog and chill in the air. Food is good up north.

Cheers, Doc

Even your Punjabis can't make daal from what I've tasted here in the US.

Dude there's a 'Café India' in a small *** town in the middle of Ireland with Indian paintings and music. The place is run by some of the friendliest Pakistanis and serves one of the best Chicken Lahoris there is.

It's just clever branding and marketing, not some psychosocial affliction. No different to Chinese restaurants being run by Koreans/Viets etc.

LMAO

WTF is a chicken Lahori?

Are you trying to talk about chargha?

 

[padamchen]

Even your Punjabis can't make daal from what I've tasted here in the US.

What do I know man. I'm just a Persian refugee.

Give me a place to sleep. My women and kids to be protected. Some food to eat. I'm happy.

Cheers, Doc

P.S. Talking about the kaali daal. Simple steaming kaali daal and roti. With green chillies. In winter on the open highway. Heaven.

 

[lastofthepatriots]

What do I know man. I'm just a Persian refugee.

Give me a place to sleep. My women and kids to be protected. Some food to eat. I'm happy.

Cheers, Doc

P.S. Talking about the kaali daal. Simple steaming kaali daal and roti. With green chillies. In winter on the open highway. Heaven.

Everybody has their personal preferences, but honestly, Masoor ki daal is the best one. Especially, when you eat it with keema(minced beef/lamb) and kulcha.

 

[padamchen]

@lastofthepatriots

Same ride, same place , in the daytime ....

Cheers, Doc

Everybody has their personal preferences, but honestly, Masoor ki daal is the best one. Especially, when you eat it with keema(minced beef/lamb) and kulcha.

So this is called yellow/peeli daal or daal tadka here in Maharashtra. I corral all those fried chillies to have with my rice.

Cheers, Doc

 

[lastofthepatriots]

@lastofthepatriots

Same ride, same place , in the daytime ....

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Cheers, Doc



So this is called yellow/peeli daal or daal tadka here in Maharashtra. I corral all those fried chillies to have with my rice.

Cheers, Doc

I don't know what you're talking about. There are several variants of daal that are yellow. This one is masoor ki daal which is the best one based on the lentils.

 

[padamchen]

I don't know what you're talking about. There are several variants of daal that are yellow. This one is masoor ki daal which is the best one based on the lentils.

Ya I know masoor man. I guess peeli daal is tuvar (also called arhar?). Not sure. Parsis have another masoor which is black. With mutton (masoor ma gos).

http://simplyspicy.blogspot.com/2009/12/masoor-ma-gosh.html?m=1

So we have to clarify with our cook yellow masoor or black masoor.

Cheers, Doc

 

[lastofthepatriots]

Ya I know masoor man. I guess peeli daal is tuvar (also called arhar?). Not sure. Parsis have another masoor which is black. With mutton (masoor ma gos).

http://simplyspicy.blogspot.com/2009/12/masoor-ma-gosh.html?m=1

So we have to clarify with our cook yellow masoor or black masoor.

Cheers, Doc

Btw, the picture you posted is not of fog, but actual air pollution.

It is like this in some areas of Pakistan, but never as thick and dense like this.

 

[padamchen]

Btw, the picture you posted is not of fog, but actual air pollution.

It is like this in some areas of Pakistan, but never as thick and dense like this.

Punjabis call it fog. Makes them feel happy. Lol

Yeah its supposed to be due to them burning their crop roots before the fields and soil are turned over for the next sowing I guess. But this is a yearly phenomenon. And it lasts till noon almost. All traffic on national highways moving at snail pace, blinkers on. Can hardly see 10-15 feet ahead at places.

Cheers, Doc

 

[Kuru]

The west think that anyone from the Indian subcontinent is an Indian. The oxford dictionary says this:

Definition of Indian in English:


ADJECTIVE

• Relating to India or to the subcontinent comprising India, Pakistan, and Bangladesh.

Link: https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/indian

So technically, that guy is right. In fact, that guy isn't suffering from identity Crisis at all.

 

[Pan-Islamic-Pakistan]

So my family have come back from holiday in Rome, Italy. I could not go because of some business demands. In Rome after few days they yearned for Pakistani food. So they found a nice place which served good, simple Pakistani food. The restaurent owner was incredibly nice and gave personal service once he found out they were of Pakistani origin. So no complaints there.

The guy was about mid 40s and had migrated from Eminabad, Pakistan about 5 years before. So he had done good for himself. From nothing he had worked hard and now ran a small restaurent eve if the inside decor was gaudy and heap. The food though was good.

To recap this he was over the moon to see fellow Pakistanis even if they were from UK. He asked them where they were from in Pakistan etc. Being in his mid 40s he was born at least 25 years after Pakistan became independant from British rule. To sum up he was a full product of Pakistan and had only left as migrant 5 years before. He had never been anywhere else then his native Pakistan and Italy. Below is his card for his restaurent.

Notice he has decided to brand and sell his restaurent as "Indian" and just as after thought added "Pakistan". No Indian ever on mother earth would add "Pakistan" on anything. Yet a 'pucca' Pakistani is branding himself as Indian. This is sad and tragic. Pakistan now is a elderly country and one of senior members at UN. Most UN countries came about in 1950s, 1060s, 1970s. UAE is from 1970s. Singapore is from 1960s. Yet after 70 years this guy has a weak sense of identity or conflicted indentity that he needs to prefix his identity with "Indian". This exposes something terrible and deep malaise in the very notion of being Pakistan and identity as a nation.

Is there any hope for us out of this befuddled idea off who we are?

What these people don’t realize is that naming their business Pakistani won’t have a negative effect. Indians will still go to their grocery stores and restaurants.

This strange hyphenated, confusing naming needs to end. Gives rise to weird things like “Afghan Indian Pakistani Bangladeshi” cuisine or groceries. Those countries have very little in common as far as food.

Lol. The first question customers always ask is, “What is this food really?”

 

[Kuru]

What these people don’t realize is that naming their business Pakistani won’t have a negative effect. Indians will still go to their grocery stores and restaurants.

This strange hyphenated, confusing naming needs to end. Gives rise to weird things like “Afghan Indian Pakistani Bangladeshi” cuisine or groceries. Those countries have very little in common as far as food.

Lol. The first question customers always ask is, “What is this food really?”

Oxford English dictionary has following meaning for the word Indian:

ADJECTIVE

• Relating to India or to the subcontinent comprising India, Pakistan, and Bangladesh.

Link:
https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/indian

 

[Imad.Khan]

Simply because most Indians tend to be Vegetarians hence they tend to make Vege dishes extremely well, Cos naturally they would concentrate on those food they consume more.. I agree with you Indian vegetarian dishes are some of the best in the world, Especially South Indian cuisine

I have only had south Indian food once and it was just abit too spicy for my taste.

 

[Mace]

Indian food sucks. I've tried
a few times.

I doubt a d*ckhe@d like you is that smart to discern. You must have had Indian food in Pakistani restaurant or worse Bangladeshi one

Oh its not the same mate but its better than nothing. If you ever get a chance to go to Pakistan, make sure you visit Peshawar and try namkeen gosht and channa paya.

Have plans to visit Pakistan some time in the future.

 

[Great Brahmin]

@Indus Pakistan main reason of Pakistan's identity crisis is its location. Pakistan is located in the frontier of Indic and Iranic civilizations with population despite living on the other side of River shares nothing more than Religion. Language, Culture and even Race of these two group in Pakistan are as different as they can be.

beside that when ever i google something related to Pakistan all i get is Qasim, Gazanvi and Augangzeb. its all about how Qasim Came from Iraq and liberated sindhis, Gazanvis spread Islam and Augandzeb was a Great sunni muslim.

there is no mention of Hindu-Buddhist or even Muslim Dynasties of Punjabi, Sindhi or Kashmiri origin. hell even those dynasties who have their origins from KPK are claimed or Addressed as Afghans such as Lodhi. Lodhi is considered a Great Afghan Empire all over world but its origin lies in Lodhi Clan(half Sindhi half Pashtun) from Eastern KPK which lies in Pakistan.

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its also very amusing when i see Pakistanis dancing on Indian Songs, Watching our Movies on one day and declaring us their Greatest enemies on second day. also naming their restaurants and other business with Indian,Desi etc Tags only Fuels our Ego and Superiority Complex.

 

[Kambojaric]

Some Pakistani places like this exist in NYC, but a lot of them don't. Funny story, I once went to a taco place being run by Chinese people.

Had "authentic" British fish and chips in the UK once in a take away run solely by Chinese people