IDEAS 2016 Preview: Blitzkrieg Solution MRAP to be unveiled on IDEAS 2016

[JamD]

...by a private company there factory is close to Karachi Ship Yard

Please don't spread misinformation. If you don't know, say you don't know. Blitzkrieg is near Islamabad.

 

[Zarvan]

Please don't spread misinformation. If you don't know, say you don't know. Blitzkrieg is near Islamabad.

This was build in Karachi that I know for sure

 

[JamD]

This was build in Karachi that I know for sure

Zarvan please stop. You are confusing it with another company that operates from Karachi maybe. This was NOT made in Karachi. I broke the news of this thing and posted the first pictures. Trust me perhaps. Or don't. Good day.

 

[BordoEnes]

This looks like a solid MRAP. In its own way it looks really similair to the Serbian Lazar concept. Congrats to our Pakistani bros.

 

[AMG_12]

Karachi, Peshawar, Gwadar and many other civil Airports were already attacked by "terrorists", so when the airport is attacked ASF will lay down their weapons ? We are talking about Airport Security Force, right ?

ASF is tasked with internal security,law and order etc, parameter security is either provided by Army or PAF at all airports.

 

[denel]

Pakistan should get MRAP from South Africa with TOT. South Africa is making seriously good MRAP and we badly need them due to urban and guerrilla warfare we are experiencing

You just need to get casspirs or buffels - there are tonnes in surplus. Damn easy to maintain and keep going. It is such a pity your defence people are being sold rubbish vehicles which need a lot of maintenance and parts. If Sri Lanka can maintain and even evolve the design of a buffel - i am sure you guys can. Simplicity friends is key.

 

[Inception-06]

ASF is tasked with internal security,law and order etc, parameter security is either provided by Army or PAF at all airports.

May God I know that, I am reader and poster in PDF ForumS since 12 years, so of course I know what the ASF is, I have meet and talked to them personally at the Lahore and Islamabad Airport, tough guys, read the other previous replies and posts of other Members, in which context I asked, what the ASF is, it was more ironic question not seriously!

But thx for answering it, may be some did really not know it.

Is this only to me or both have Mohafiz type turret. Seriously just pathetic , no firepower , If HIT cant design one then Y not we buy from International markets their are many systems available.
Why cant we buy 2 or 3 different Turrets from Turkey or China with TOT and produce them in Pakistan , Is it that hard .

Here are some , Just open the link.
https://defence.pk/threads/turkish-remote-controlled-weapon-systems.349539/



@Zarvan , @Sarge , @Muhammad Omar , @DESERT FIGHTER

Bhai I have noticed that also on other topics (one of my post in this contex was for you), but some Members here try to explain that with "HIT knows better bla bla bla".

 

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They should of designed a vehicle that is 6x6, easier traversing roads and also easier for the logistics guys looking after the vehicle. 8x8 for a MRAP is overkill imo

Something like this

 

[Bilal Khan (Quwa)]

It's important to understand that HIT is a branch of the Army. Don't confuse HIT as some company that has any level of independence from GHQ. There might be some room, but for the most part, whatever GHQ tells HIT to produce, HIT will produce it. So, if by some chance GHQ picks up a sweet looking South African or Turkish MRAP with ToT, then yes, HIT will manufacture it under license. If not, then that is HIT's story.

I would say that of all of Pakistan's public sector defence firms, POF is probably the most independent, and that too by a slim margin. But the rest, e.g. HIT, PAC, KSEW, etc, are like the direct manufacturing arms of the Army, Air Force, and Navy, respectively.

That said, we may be seeing a slight shift in that GHQ may be sending some private companies, notably Blitzkrieg Defense and Metal Engineering Works, RFPs outlining operational requirements, technical specifications, etc. In response, these companies are using that information to (1) design something in house (e.g. Blitzkrieg) or (2) partner with an overseas company (Metal Engineering Works) to propose to the Army.

It would be a game-changer if the Army decides to basically 'outsource' the requirement to one of these private sector companies (or both). Such an order would provide incentive to those companies to continue design work in the area and perhaps even get others interested, which may result in Turkish and/or South African designs making it to Pakistan, albeit through local private sector vendors or joint-ventures.

 

[amardeep mishra]

Yes. I know the designer closely.

Hi dear @JamD
Will it be too much or controversial to ask for concrete proofs that it was indeed designed indigenously? I just hope it is not secretive to even reveal if it was indeed designed in-house as you claim. Kindly note I am merely asking.
My suspicion stems from the fact that no company can design entire 8x8 MRAP in less than an year!-even giants that have billions of dollars of revenue take something like 2-4 years to come up with their beta prototypes. And frankly the company we are talking about(i checked out their internet site for their research portfolio--and it had no mention of R&D or their platforms) has no prior experience in designing something like a 8x8 MRAP vehicle. In all likelyhood it seems like a cougar MRAP modified with an added axle for perhaps more payload capacity and cosmetic changes for better bullet protection from front maybe.

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Their website is horrendous. Not that it's much better but their facebook page has some pictures at least:
https://www.facebook.com/Blitzkrieg-Defence-Solution-1654747064774934/

Also, it used to be called Cavalier before.

Also their facebook link doesnt work.

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

Hi dear @JamD
Will it be too much or controversial to ask for concrete proofs that it was indeed designed indigenously? I just hope it is not secretive to even reveal if it was indeed designed in-house as you claim. Kindly note I am merely asking.
My suspicion stems from the fact that no company can design entire 8x8 MRAP in less than an year!-even giants that have billions of dollars of revenue take something like 3-4 years to come up with their beta prototypes. And frankly the company we are talking about(i checked out their internet site for their research portfolio--and it had no mention of R&D or their platforms) has no prior experience in designing something like a 8x8 MRAP vehicle. In all likelyhood it seems like a cougar MRAP modified with an added axle for perhaps more payload capacity and cosmetic changes for better bullet protection from front maybe.


Also their facebook link doesnt work.

Are you kidding?

How in the name of God are you comparing an MRAP with a fukin Multi role Combat Armoured Vehicle?

Which is twice as heavy,more protected,powered by a 600hp engine and a 30mm canon etc?

The one year claim was made by Zarvan not the company or @JamD

Cougar MRAP

Hamza MRAV

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

They should of designed a vehicle that is 6x6, easier traversing roads and also easier for the logistics guys looking after the vehicle. 8x8 for a MRAP is overkill imo

Something like this

Going by the few specs.... relating to its armor,transmission,engine and armament ... you should compare it with these:

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

You just need to get casspirs or buffels - there are tonnes in surplus. Damn easy to maintain and keep going. It is such a pity your defence people are being sold rubbish vehicles which need a lot of maintenance and parts. If Sri Lanka can maintain and even evolve the design of a buffel - i am sure you guys can. Simplicity friends is key.

Thank you... bought a few dozen Caspirs.... guess the army didnt like em much so they got :


Very old pic of Casspirs - 2010-11:

Cougars and Buffalos:

 

[amardeep mishra]

Are you kidding?

How in the name of God are you comparing an MRAP with a fukin Multi role Combat Armoured Vehicle?

Which is twice as heavy,more protected,powered by a 600hp engine and a 30mm canon etc?

The one year claim was made by Zarvan not the company or @JamD

Cougar MRAP

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Hamza MRAV


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Hi @DESERT FIGHTER
Instead of talking without any concrete evidence,kindly provide proof from the designer and what exactly was their contribution based on both "value" and "technology/parts"--believe me that would be worth 1000 such words. I pray,you realize how such R&D works.

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

Hi @DESERT FIGHTER
Instead of talking without any concrete evidence,kindly provide proof from the designer and what exactly was their contribution based on both "value" and "technology/parts"--believe me that would be worth 1000 such words. I pray,you realize how such R&D works.

Sure will wait a day or two till its publically unvieled before making ridiculous claims of it being a modified Cougar and whatnot...

Ironic thing is that people like you dont even point a finger at your own failed foriegn designed products but the second something comes out from our side its always an assembly right?

Get a grip man.