Idea no.5: Helping the tourism industry and image of Pakistan

[Dubious]

No but we make outlines of those about which we know it may help/encourage other who is better placed than us but as said before u also at good point for promoting/selling.With every product its need to define end market first

True...End market might be a problem because I dont know what Pakistanis are into

Like I said I just wanted to support cottage industry (I know what I want I am stuck at the HOW part)

 

[zulu]

@Dubious giving your situation working out that ""HOW""part is real challenge thinking about it (considering your degree too ) what about that tourism i was under impression u love it as by nature u r traveler yourself isay lets design both's pros & cons that will add 2 do able projects in data bank

 

[Dubious]

@Dubious giving your situation working out that ""HOW""part is real challenge thinking about it (considering your degree too ) what about that tourism i was under impression u love it as by nature u r traveler yourself isay lets design both's pros & cons that will add 2 do able projects in data bank

spiritual wali?

 

[Dubious]

what about that tourism i was under impression u love

Religious/ Spiritual wali tourism?

 

[zulu]

i was talking about whole tourism and off course it would add extra dimension which other don't offer i was looking at it from tour operator point of view these days even local tourism become kinda hot field just today received 2 sms about such offers all in one tour so getting info from them will help in designing the project personally like all computer nerd i hate traveling and cold areas??dur sy hi salam so will need another traveler who can share his exp what problem he/she faced so can design smooth operation

Religious/ Spiritual wali tourism?

 

[Dubious]

i was talking about whole tourism and off course it would add extra dimension which other don't offer i was looking at it from tour operator point of view these days even local tourism become kinda hot field just today received 2 sms about such offers all in one tour so getting info from them will help in designing the project personally like all computer nerd i hate traveling and cold areas??dur sy hi salam so will need another traveler who can share his exp what problem he/she faced so can design smooth operation

Ok I can formulate an outline sort of thing and we pick it up from there?

 

[zulu]

Yes as its more suitable to u will explain in detail outline how

Ok I can formulate an outline sort of thing and we pick it up from there?

 

[Dubious]

Yes as its more suitable to u will explain in detail outline how

Yea right now I am sleepy...So wont be able to do much anyway

 

[YeBeWarned]

Anything that gives me the Pakistani vibe, i'll love it

 

[Murgah]

Bro all this things can easily be sell in tourism spot especially culture and religious spots where foreigners tourist are in numbers we needs to just promote our culture its a win win for all

 

[VCheng]

Yea, extremely expensive, no quality control and no artisan name!

I will now expand a little about why these selected areas:

• stitching, sewing, embroidery : each province and many cities have their own signature designs:

This image sums the wealth of traditional designs:

Your enthusiasm is commendable.

Have you done any estimates of the size and type of market that you wish to compete in? What are the investments needed to get a reliable supply chain going for this market?

 

[graphican]

@zulu I finally felt like doing this bit...I have already attached the religious thread here....


Ok here is my idea:
@Burāq OI @Murgah @PakSword @The Diplomat @fitpOsitive @baqai @graphican @Thorough Pro @Counter-Errorist
Möbius Curve

So, I have bounced this idea a couple of times...

I am interested in boosting the cottage industry (within Pakistan):

1. stitching
2. sewing
3. embroidery
4. wood craft
5. marble craft
   
6. shoe making
7. clay work - dishes?
8. glass work
9. calligraphy
10. silk painting
11. lamp making
12. camel skin products and hair products
13. goat hair products like Pashmina has made a brand

1. We have a large poor / working class population with unique traditional skills
2. Women can work from home
3. A new source of income

How (I think) this should run :

1. EACH "artisan" will have their name signed on each product they make
2. EACH"artisan" will get like 75% if product is sold at an expo/ display/ cultural village
3. The quality would be maintained and the prices match export quality products - each "artisan" will be told at the end of each month that if quality is not met they are replaced (since we have a large population).
4. The collection would be from all over Pakistan

I would suggest these things displayed and be sold at expo and also make a cultural village like with a small entrance fee like 50 -100 Rs (to help it run) and then whatever anyone buys from there 75% goes to the maker and rest to run the "cultural village" (electricity/ stall rent/ advertisement). When I mean cultural village is not a village...But a permanent display expo in touristic spots...And make sure these are linked with travel agents who take tourists around.


They dont need to make MANY coz we arent aiming at large scale but we are aiming at custom/ original hand made products, which are unique and dont have another of its kind...Kind of like the batik of Indonesia which are "traditionally" hand made and each is given attention to detail and you dont get another one like it...Now a days machine made ones are available BUT people still prefer the traditional ones coz it makes them stand out!

1. Open jobs
   
2. This will help bring more women into the work force
3. It will help promote Pakistani goods under the banner Pakistani and hopefully export some stuff
4. It would be helpful in the long run for tourism
5. Keep alive traditional crafts and make them money making art

This may require going talent hunting. Checking out sample. Maybe even training some for online sales (i.e. http://aanganpk.com/ and websites listed below)?

I got this idea because once upon a time we used to see Pakistani textiles even British shops now we dont. I have seen indian "artisan" shops just start in front of me and expand from 1 to 2-3 shops! They display unknown brands but the bright colours and patterns make many Europeans buy them!

Many different old techniques like tie dye and stuff keep coming back in fashion...and I know Pakistani used to have alot of various ideas...and I am sure if groomed properly these "artisans" can be very creative!

@VCheng

I got this idea from reading these success tales that I and some other members posted here on PDF some years ago:
https://markhor.com/pages/our-story
http://www.popinjay.co/about/index.php
http://inaayaonline.com/shop/about-us/

I further googled and found these online stores
https://kaarvan.com/history/
https://www.pollyandotherstories.com/pages/about-us
https://www.tenthousandvillages.com/pakistan/dominion-traders
https://www.artisansgalleria.com/
https://www.gilgitbazar.com/shop/Hand-Made
http://www.vceela.com/
http://aanganpk.com/
https://www.jafferjees.com/jafferjees-history

These are very specific with what they work with - textile and jewelry...I would like to expand this to other areas!

If you notice almost all the good websites have their story and also the story of the "specific village or artists" written...or how a group of people got together and did something!


We have some training and expo:

http://www.ahan.org.pk/ahan-offers-...embroidery-adda-work-tailoring-and-stitching/
https://www.worldbank.org/en/news/feature/2017/12/06/embroidering-new-future-pakistan-rural-artisans

We can also build up on religious tourism....but give it another name like a spiritual journey (Buddhism/ Sikhism/ Islam )- might help with soft image coz saying religious tourism in Pakistan would just sound weird/ scary or even not sell

Love it. Its a beautiful idea and needed by many at a demographic level which is financially struggling.

With a little growth, we can have Pakistani version of etsy.com where artists sell their houshold art.

 

[Dubious]

What are the investments needed to get a reliable supply chain going for this market?

@fatman17 any contributions?

Love it. Its a beautiful idea and needed by many at a demographic level which is financially struggling.

With a little growth, we can have Pakistani version of etsy.com where artists sell their houshold art.

It is a messy idea...I cant find the time nor have the skills to proceed....

Hence the idea has remained as an idea for a very long time...I may have a higher degree but I def dont have the skills for this area!

Your enthusiasm is commendable.

Have you done any estimates of the size and type of market that you wish to compete in? What are the investments needed to get a reliable supply chain going for this market?

Yea, Like I told you before I have tons of ideas...but most need polishing!

 

[VCheng]

Yea, Like I told you before I have tons of ideas...but most need polishing!

As I said, I find your enthusiasm commendable. Please do not let an old washed-up has-been pessimist liberal religion-and-army hater discourage you from pursuing them.

 

[The Diplomat]

@zulu I finally felt like doing this bit...I have already attached the religious thread here....


Ok here is my idea:
@Burāq OI @Murgah @PakSword @The Diplomat @fitpOsitive @baqai @graphican @Thorough Pro @Counter-Errorist
Möbius Curve

So, I have bounced this idea a couple of times...

I am interested in boosting the cottage industry (within Pakistan):

1. stitching
2. sewing
3. embroidery
4. wood craft
5. marble craft
   
6. shoe making
7. clay work - dishes?
8. glass work
9. calligraphy
10. silk painting
11. lamp making
12. camel skin products and hair products
13. goat hair products like Pashmina has made a brand

1. We have a large poor / working class population with unique traditional skills
2. Women can work from home
3. A new source of income

How (I think) this should run :

1. EACH "artisan" will have their name signed on each product they make
2. EACH"artisan" will get like 75% if product is sold at an expo/ display/ cultural village
3. The quality would be maintained and the prices match export quality products - each "artisan" will be told at the end of each month that if quality is not met they are replaced (since we have a large population).
4. The collection would be from all over Pakistan

I would suggest these things displayed and be sold at expo and also make a cultural village like with a small entrance fee like 50 -100 Rs (to help it run) and then whatever anyone buys from there 75% goes to the maker and rest to run the "cultural village" (electricity/ stall rent/ advertisement). When I mean cultural village is not a village...But a permanent display expo in touristic spots...And make sure these are linked with travel agents who take tourists around.


They dont need to make MANY coz we arent aiming at large scale but we are aiming at custom/ original hand made products, which are unique and dont have another of its kind...Kind of like the batik of Indonesia which are "traditionally" hand made and each is given attention to detail and you dont get another one like it...Now a days machine made ones are available BUT people still prefer the traditional ones coz it makes them stand out!

1. Open jobs
   
2. This will help bring more women into the work force
3. It will help promote Pakistani goods under the banner Pakistani and hopefully export some stuff
4. It would be helpful in the long run for tourism
5. Keep alive traditional crafts and make them money making art

This may require going talent hunting. Checking out sample. Maybe even training some for online sales (i.e. http://aanganpk.com/ and websites listed below)?

I got this idea because once upon a time we used to see Pakistani textiles even British shops now we dont. I have seen indian "artisan" shops just start in front of me and expand from 1 to 2-3 shops! They display unknown brands but the bright colours and patterns make many Europeans buy them!

Many different old techniques like tie dye and stuff keep coming back in fashion...and I know Pakistani used to have alot of various ideas...and I am sure if groomed properly these "artisans" can be very creative!

@VCheng

I got this idea from reading these success tales that I and some other members posted here on PDF some years ago:
https://markhor.com/pages/our-story
http://www.popinjay.co/about/index.php
http://inaayaonline.com/shop/about-us/

I further googled and found these online stores
https://kaarvan.com/history/
https://www.pollyandotherstories.com/pages/about-us
https://www.tenthousandvillages.com/pakistan/dominion-traders
https://www.artisansgalleria.com/
https://www.gilgitbazar.com/shop/Hand-Made
http://www.vceela.com/
http://aanganpk.com/
https://www.jafferjees.com/jafferjees-history

These are very specific with what they work with - textile and jewelry...I would like to expand this to other areas!

If you notice almost all the good websites have their story and also the story of the "specific village or artists" written...or how a group of people got together and did something!


We have some training and expo:

http://www.ahan.org.pk/ahan-offers-...embroidery-adda-work-tailoring-and-stitching/
https://www.worldbank.org/en/news/feature/2017/12/06/embroidering-new-future-pakistan-rural-artisans

We can also build up on religious tourism....but give it another name like a spiritual journey (Buddhism/ Sikhism/ Islam )- might help with soft image coz saying religious tourism in Pakistan would just sound weird/ scary or even not sell

Hi, thanks for the tag!

It's a great idea, I'd love to give some input however am a little busier than usual. Will go through it in detail and a few weeks!