I am learning Urdu(Nastaliq script)

[PARAS]

Yesterday I was talking to a muslim friend(who can read both devnagari and nastaliq) of mine and he told me that devnagari is far easier than nastaliq script.I didn't buy his arguement and came back home and scrounged the net to find the truth.Then i struck upon a website that shows how to learn urdu through hindi alphabets.I tried to understand the urdu alphabets and found its harder than what i had thought before.The system of maatraein is very cmplex.
Now i have made up my mind to take upon this pain-in-the-a$$ job of learning Urdu.I know this is gonna be one heck of a task but i have set my goals clear.
Maybe i am high on adrenaline at this moment and will get bored of it in a few days(I will pray it doesn't happen).

So far I have only learnt the symbols for 'k' and 'n'.

 

[HappinessMark!]

Nice to know, very easy to learn more than hindi as I once tried to learn hindi but it was just like I seem to remember the complex symbols (pictures), perhaps as I already know english and urdu alpha bets...we have 34 or 36 alphabet what about hindi I forget!

But you are going some middle way k and n...hindi start like this way...why not from A and then B letter:


Aliph=A=one like symbol...
BAY=B=
PAY=P=

IF you will make me learn two alphabets here then I can do the same, but under deal...as I'm not good self learner but co-learner more...

 

[takeiteasy]

why Urdu speakers write "padhna" as "parhna" and "pata nahin" as "pta nahin" ..though I don't know Urdu script, I believe it is unlike Devnagari/Other Indian scripts. that is, urdu have no "a aa e ee u.." and 'ka kkha ga.." like Indian languages although, Urdu IS a Indian language which lost it's glory for Hindi.

 

[Leviza]

why Urdu speakers write "padhna" as "parhna" and "pata nahin" as "pta nahin" ..though I don't know Urdu script, I believe it is unlike Devnagari/Other Indian scripts. that is, urdu have no "a aa e ee u.." and 'ka kkha ga.." like Indian languages although, Urdu IS a Indian language which lost it's glory for Hindi.

URDU is not a indian language in any way and it didnt lost its any of glory to any of other languages...

this is just what they tells you in india ...

BTW there is no such thing as Hindi language before 1947... it was sanskrit...

 

[dexter]

@takeiteasy pta nahi

 

[Isaths]

why Urdu speakers write "padhna" as "parhna" and "pata nahin" as "pta nahin" ..though I don't know Urdu script, I believe it is unlike Devnagari/Other Indian scripts. that is, urdu have no "a aa e ee u.." and 'ka kkha ga.." like Indian languages although, Urdu IS a Indian language which lost it's glory for Hindi.

In roman every things works. "Parhna" or "padhna", pata nahi or pta nahi ( u can say pta nahi is roman urdu slang or short form e.g don't =dnt, because=bcz or coz. etc.
but in urdu subscript everybody writes in single way.

 

[Carl Johnson]

URDU is not a indian language in any way and it didnt lost its any of glory to any of other languages...

this is just what they tells you in india ...

BTW there is no such thing as Hindi language before 1947... it was sanskrit...

Tell me why it isn't an indian language.

 

[Awesome]

why Urdu speakers write "padhna" as "parhna" and "pata nahin" as "pta nahin" ..though I don't know Urdu script, I believe it is unlike Devnagari/Other Indian scripts. that is, urdu have no "a aa e ee u.." and 'ka kkha ga.." like Indian languages although, Urdu IS a Indian language which lost it's glory for Hindi.

For example, Ladka is a linguistic inability of Hindi speakers, the right way to speakers. We have a concept of the letter "Ray" equal to "R" and then Array, which is a an R from the throat.

There is no D sound at all, just goes close to the D sound but revolves around R.

Urdu covers almost all sounds imaginable. Unlike English which needs a Sh or Ch combo. But otherwise there is some similarity in concept of English and Urdu letters.

Main difference in learning Hindi and Urdu is the concept of letters. In Urdu Letters are need to be combined to make a sound. In Hindi I think there is one letter for a sound like BA MA GA PA DA DI DOO MOO MI

 

[DDLJ]

URDU is not a indian language in any way and it didnt lost its any of glory to any of other languages...

this is just what they tells you in india ...

BTW there is no such thing as Hindi language before 1947... it was sanskrit...

Urdu is based on Khariboli dialect of Delhi and Western Uttar Pradesh with loanwords from Persian and Arabic. In India some 5% Indians or about 61 Million people consider Urdu as their mother tongue. So, Urdu is infact language of North India and it is stupidity to deny that it is not an Indian language when it is based on North Indian dialect Khariboli and developed in North India only.

 

[Skallagrim]

Somehow I have had the impression that Urdu and Hindi have a common origin. Right? or is one of them the original language and the other is an offshoot?

 

[DDLJ]

Somehow I have had the impression that Urdu and Hindi have a common origin. Right? or is one of them the original language and the other is an offshoot?

Both have origins from Khariboli dialect of Delhi and Uttar Pradesh but it was the vocabulary and script issues to be used for literature that caused two language to separate, spoken Hindi or Urdu are still common. Muslims had patronage for Persian-Arabic vocabulary and Arabic script, Hindus had patronage for Sanskrit based vocabulary and Devanagari Script and since consensus could not be reached two languages separated.

 

[Carl Johnson]

Somehow I have had the impression that Urdu and Hindi have a common origin. Right? or is one of them the original language and the other is an offshoot?

Urdu and Hindi both have descended from the Khariboli dialect of north india.Actually todays sanskritized hindi(or shudh hindi) resembles khariboli 100%.So it can be said that khariboli was nothing but hindi itself however it wasn't called hindi then.Still khariboli is called a dialect of hindi.And it is only khariboli that is similar to urdu.there are many other dialects like maithili,braj and avadhi which dont sound like urdu at all.And khariboli is the mothertounge of only 2% of indians while hindi is the mt of 40%indians.so a khariboli speaker can not clearly understand maithili or braj however they are speaking the same language i.e,Hindi.It is the dialects that differ.

 

[Isaths]

what I heard about urdu is. its a mixture of many language.

The word "Urdu" is a turk word that means "lashkar" or u can say huge combination of many languages.

I dont knw if I am correct or not but what I read is Urdu came into being during the Mughal or Muslims empire. As Mughal were not orignaly from sub continent, So, they languages they used to speak with the combination of local languages of subcontinet Urdu came into being.

Correct me guys if I am incorrect bcz I read a chapter abt urdu language when I was in 5th or 6th grade I guess.

 

[Bratva]

why Urdu speakers write "padhna" as "parhna" and "pata nahin" as "pta nahin" ..though I don't know Urdu script, I believe it is unlike Devnagari/Other Indian scripts. that is, urdu have no "a aa e ee u.." and 'ka kkha ga.." like Indian languages although, Urdu IS a Indian language which lost it's glory for Hindi.

Because There is no R sound in Sanskrit. Just like There is no Z sound in Sanskrit so you guys always sey Jour laga ker instead of Zour laga ker. As You replace Z sound with J sound.

 

[Isaths]

So, urdu is a language of whole subcontinent. cheers

Nobody owns it.