Hubei Cadres Told to Lie Back and Think of Falling Birth Rates

[Bussard Ramjet]

Hubei Cadres Told to Lie Back and Think of Falling Birth Rates

Yichang authorities ask party members to have second child to stem population decline.

Family planners in Yichang, the second-largest city in central China’s Hubei province, are calling on members of the Communist Party and the Communist Youth League who work as civil servants to do their part in raising the city’s low birth rate.

In an open letter published on Sunday, the Health and Family Planning Commission of Yichang urged cadres to take the lead in responding to the party’s calls for a second child. Young comrades should lead by example, the letter said, using a phrase that translates as “doing it starts with me.” Older comrades, it continued, “should educate and urge on their children.”

According to the statistics bureau of Yichang, the birth rate in the city of about 4 million residents stood at 9.2 births per 1,000 people in 2015, down from 11.5 in the year prior, and well below the national average of 12.1.

“On average, each woman has delivered less than one child since 2000,” the commission said in the letter. It added that if the problem persists, the low birth rate would result in an aging problem, a labor shortage, and lagging urbanization. It also warned parents that having just one child means they run the risk of ending up childless. The Yichang Health and Family Planning Commission could not be reached when contacted by Sixth Tone on Tuesday.

In addition to the call to action, the government of Yichang has taken measures to make having a second child more appealing, such as longer maternity leave and free health checkups.

In October 2015, the Communist Party decided to end the more than 30-year-old one-child policy, allowing all couples two children or in some cases more. The rule-change came into effect in January.

Online, people reacted with doubts about whether the letter would be a potent wake-up call. “In our big Yichang,” wrote one user of microblog platform Weibo, “the one-child policy was implemented too well. Now the people’s notions about births can’t be changed.”


http://www.sixthtone.com/news/hubei-city-urges-party-members-have-second-child

 

[Bussard Ramjet]

This is a dangerous phenomenon, a family being reduced to half after every generation.

Also, single children aren't even "high-quality" as some would like. Single Children are non-competitive, having lived in a family of one, and being accustomed to getting everything in excess without competition. They are also not good at maintaining community relations, and community ties, something central to the Chinese culture.

@AndrewJin @Chinese Bamboo

 

[Shotgunner51]

Hubei Cadres Told to Lie Back and Think of Falling Birth Rates

Yichang authorities ask party members to have second child to stem population decline.

Family planners in Yichang, the second-largest city in central China’s Hubei province, are calling on members of the Communist Party and the Communist Youth League who work as civil servants to do their part in raising the city’s low birth rate.

In an open letter published on Sunday, the Health and Family Planning Commission of Yichang urged cadres to take the lead in responding to the party’s calls for a second child. Young comrades should lead by example, the letter said, using a phrase that translates as “doing it starts with me.” Older comrades, it continued, “should educate and urge on their children.”

According to the statistics bureau of Yichang, the birth rate in the city of about 4 million residents stood at 9.2 births per 1,000 people in 2015, down from 11.5 in the year prior, and well below the national average of 12.1.

“On average, each woman has delivered less than one child since 2000,” the commission said in the letter. It added that if the problem persists, the low birth rate would result in an aging problem, a labor shortage, and lagging urbanization. It also warned parents that having just one child means they run the risk of ending up childless. The Yichang Health and Family Planning Commission could not be reached when contacted by Sixth Tone on Tuesday.

In addition to the call to action, the government of Yichang has taken measures to make having a second child more appealing, such as longer maternity leave and free health checkups.

In October 2015, the Communist Party decided to end the more than 30-year-old one-child policy, allowing all couples two children or in some cases more. The rule-change came into effect in January.

Online, people reacted with doubts about whether the letter would be a potent wake-up call. “In our big Yichang,” wrote one user of microblog platform Weibo, “the one-child policy was implemented too well. Now the people’s notions about births can’t be changed.”


http://www.sixthtone.com/news/hubei-city-urges-party-members-have-second-child

The same thread had been deleted two days ago by @ahojunk , what's the your rationale for starting it again? Please elaborate, thanks.

 

[Shotgunner51]

An Indian is an Indian that can not live without negative news about China.

Well, moderators here have very low threshhold of "provocation" for non-Chinese members, when Chinese members can say or do pretty much anything.

My message cited above had no foul language, no insinuation, nothing.

But if it was still a problem, I will tone down my language even further!

Calm down, carry on with the subject, stay on topic, thanks.

 

[jkroo]

Well, moderators here have very low threshhold of "provocation" for non-Chinese members, when Chinese members can say or do pretty much anything.

My message cited above had no foul language, no insinuation, nothing.

But if it was still a problem, I will tone down my language even further!

Young man. You are just too naive. Keep posting something about China with stereotype tones will only cause one thing that is more members will look down upon you guys especially with that poor logic.

No one care about the so called dangerous news itself in China. No one cares and it is even not a so called serious thing in Yichang.

It's really funny you post it with a really funny serious tone which we call it seriously BS. In China we call this kind ppl SB. So when you read any news in English then try to think it in a reverse way, sometimes you can get it.

 

[Bussard Ramjet]

An Indian is an Indian that can not live without negative news about China.

@jkroo disagrees that this is a negative news.

For me it is just news, signalling what can be a dangerous path forward for the country.

 

[jkroo]

@jkroo disagrees that this is a negative news.

For me it is just news, signalling what can be a dangerous path forward for the country.

Ok, you really treat it seriously. Good to India and China.

Even negative news is OK if you installed a proper IQ to figure it out. To be dwarfed by the news and posts themselves will be problem. That's the serious problem which you are undergoing. To be treated as a SB is a serous problem in China.

Now, pls continue the seriously BS To be frank, for some people here, we just have fun for what you posted.

 

[Shotgunner51]

Thread locked for cleaning.

Edit: Thread now re-open, please carry on, stay on-topic (birth rates, demographic implications), thanks!
Reminder: Refrain from personal/national insult as per forum rule. For those who have just received my notification, note that there will be NO MORE pre-warning from me, please abide to forum rule.

 

[+4vsgorillas-Apebane]

@Bussard Ramjet

What's your agenda here?

Thread after thread about some kind of demographic disaster in China when in reality it is India that is in a world of hurt.

26 centuries ago Sun Tzu said:

"numbers alone confer no advantage"

Its easy to increase population, the problem is and has always been in quality people. In the USA some minority groups have many children (I wont name) but these ones just go on the dole, section 8 housing, food stamps and EBT. Less of people in this group is desirable.

Now look at Shining Bharat. Too many people, not enough jobs. Millions applying for a few menial positions. At the same time, there is not enough quality people to lead or start up profitable ventures.

Just too many illiterate an unemployable people who start a new generation every 20 years instead of 30 years.

 

[ohmrlobalobayeh]

Chinese people are good at producing babies. 1.3 billion Chinese souls + another 50+million Overseas Chinese is a grand testimony to that. There was even a 'Stop at 2' policy in Singapore during the 80s and 90s(hence i have only a younger brother as my only sibling). Now our government is even giving out cash incentives for people to produce more children(cumulative with every child).

So my Question for Bussard Ramjet here is:

Why do you think national demographic planners would want people to produce less children in the first place if numbers conferred an advantage? based on the national phenomenon in Singapore, Lesser does indeed = to better quality.

The local Chinese population has the lowest birth rate, yet we have the highest household income.

"Free education and subsidised housing lead to a situation where the less economically productive people in the community are reproducing themselves at rates higher than the rest. This will increase the total population of less productive people. Our problem is how to devise a system of disincentives, so that the irresponsible, the social delinquents, do not believe that all they have to do is to produce their children and the government then owes them and their children sufficient food, medicine, housing, education and jobs...We must encourage those who earn less than $200 per month and cannot afford to nurture and educate many children never to have more than two. We will regret the time lost if we do not now take the first tentative steps towards correcting a trend which can leave our society with a large number of the physically, intellectually and culturally anaemic."

- Lee Kuan Yew

translated =

Less capable and less-hardworking people should produce less becos they are burdening the country's resources at the expense of those who are of a higher quality stock(those who work hard aka Meritocracy adherents)

Sounds eeriely similar to Nazi eugenics ideology- but it's the sad truth. At least Lee Kuan Yew didnt order people of low IQ to be sterilised or to be put to sleep.

 

[AndrewJin]

Thread locked for cleaning.

Edit: Thread now re-open, please carry on, stay on-topic (birth rates, demographic implications), thanks!
Reminder: Refrain from personal/national insult as per forum rule. For those who have just received my notification, note that there will be NO MORE pre-warning from me, please abide to forum rule.

I don't know why my comments were deleted....
I did not insult anyone!

 

[Kyle Sun]

I am wondering why the hell you are so interested in our birth rate.
You have opend a few threads of birth rate. If I were you , i would take another topic to play here.

 

[GS Zhou]

I am wondering why the hell you are so interested in our birth rate.
You have opend a few threads of birth rate. If I were you , i would take another topic to play here.

that's because population is the only area they can catch up with us

 

[ohmrlobalobayeh]

that's because population is the only area they can catch up with us

i jsut checked the threads he created. here are the 1s related to the topic at hand, a whooping comprehensive list all about China's population:

https://defence.pk/threads/one-child-city-in-crisis-foreshadows-china’s-aging-problem.441360/

https://defence.pk/threads/chinas-p...to-600-million-to-900-million-by-2100.437618/

https://defence.pk/threads/this-is-yet-another-ugly-chart-for-chinas-demographic-future.433969/

https://defence.pk/threads/china-in-shock-why-no-baby-boom.422196/

https://defence.pk/threads/should-china-allow-immigrants-from-south-east-asia.413411/

https://defence.pk/threads/similarities-between-china-of-today-and-japan-of-the-70s-and-80s.411166/

https://defence.pk/threads/how-serious-a-problem-is-chinese-demographics.409861/

https://defence.pk/threads/chinas-human-resources-thread.408192/

https://defence.pk/threads/china-may-see-negative-population-growth-after-2020：expert.405790/

https://defence.pk/threads/chinas-p...-million-while-us-goes-to-450-million.403540/

he sure is interested in China's population

 

[AndrewJin]

that's because population is the only area they can catch up with us

That's the only reason I can think about...
I have no problem about they having the biggest population.