How would a modern day Pakistan v/s Israel conflict play out?

[MOHSENAM]

Pakistan is already going through zarb e azb where they are clearing TTP terrorists. The most pakistan can contribute is by sending jihadis to fight along hamas...

Good idea. But Jihadis only kill Muslims in Pakistan and Arab countries.

 

[GURU DUTT]

We don't share borders with either Israel or Palestine, nor are we known for being an aggressor or warmonger or excessively emotional. This is who we are, and this is why we are completely different from most of the nations of the world including yours.

when did i aid you share a broder i said you are so close to israel ..thing is saudies are a rich but coward and corrupt nation who use poor muslims like syrians , iraquies , pakistanies ect ect to fight there prxy war with iran but chicken owt when they have to stand for a genuine ause and fight like a man with israelies cause they know they will sieze to get all the perks they are so occustoumed to now

so instead of calling names to indians better get some guts and go fight the israelies if your heart is so much filled with emotions and love for plight of palestenians

 

[HRK]

why do people create such threads??------

because they have nothing better to do ....

 

[Menace2Society]

Good idea. But Jihadis only kill Muslims in Pakistan and Arab countries.

Your loser Hezbollah militant cult is useless. Iran is a jihadi making factory.

 

[GURU DUTT]

not trained and not experienced… i would love to see a fight between israel and pakistan just a small scuffle to see who is better.

well trust me it wont be a small scuffle if ever pakistan comes into a conflickt with israel they are not india who spared 93000 POWs they will take no POWs and will bomb yournation to stone age and even USA and west or even china or your "brotherlli nations" wont come to help you as for your devine air force and alien tech cruise missiles well you will realli regret why you took up the adventure against israel in the first place just like palestenians are feeling right now

 

[SarthakGanguly]

In case of an Israeli Pakistani war the following would be happening -

Scenario 1: Local conflict only (Very very unlikely)
i. Israel will attempt a blockade of Pakistani vessels plying though the Suez.
ii. Pakistan's navy is less likely to rush the blockade around Suez, without help from other Arab nations.
iii. Proxy wars will begin. Israel has a massive intel structure and Pakistan's economy could take a fatal blow by some carefully placed sanctions. This affects banking and hence reserves.
iv. A negotiated settlement will be reached. No territorial losses obviously - status quo ante bellum.

Scenario 2: Global conflict non nuclear ( Somewhat likely)
i. Israel and Pakistan will do everything in Scenario 1
ii. Egypt, Lebanon, Jordan stay initially neutral. Syria and Iraq mobilize for war against Israel.
iii. War escalates - Egypt freezes Suez, Lebanon goes de facto into war - prodded by Hezbollah. Israel pursues Hezballah into Lebanon, Lebanon declares war on Israel, who return the favor. Syria, Iraq open hostilities against Israel, aiming for Golan.
iv. IDF launches unilateral offensive in Sinai to open Suez and succeeds. Egypt is drawn into conflict, but unable to move on land. Only contribution is by the airforce. Even that would be minimal: heavy Egyptian losses, little Israeli losses.
v. IDF allegedly launches posion gas attack in Gaza. Free Palestinian Government in Exile formed in Pakistan and recognized by almost all Muslim countries. Syria and Iraq launch their own missiles in retaliation against Israel. Multiple offensives lunched against Israel from the East - all would meet failure for a week.
vi. Iran de facto joins the war, de jure remains neutral. They send the Guards units.
vii. Pakistan airforce goes all out against Israel, in a surprise attack before declaration of war - from Iranian or East Syrian airbases to avoid detection. Israel's airbases would be knocked out of action and Israel's Golan position breached by Iraqi armour. Pakistan will never be officially in a state of war.
viii. Israeli AF grounded for days, sufferring close to 30% permanent losses goes over to the strategic defence. PAF unable to keep momentum due to friction between Arab states and lack of Joint Initiative.
ix. Israel gets a respite and gets US arms and weapons and inflicts serious losses on the PAF. PAF withdraws almost entirely to curtail losses. IDF counteroffensive retakes Golan. Syria starts looking for a way out.
x. Israel pushes out of Golan into the open plains. In Egypt, both sides remain on the defensive, Egyptians and Libyans providing token resistance.
xi. Israel threatens Beirut - Lebanon signs ceasefire. Syria follows, Egypt and Libya agree to a truce. Iraq is forced into the table by Syria and Iran ignores and forgets anything was on.
x. Pakistan builds memorial monuments and ceases all involvement.
xi. Borders return to pre-war lines as per UN declarations. Israel claims moral victory.

Scenario 3: Nuclear Option
Cluster****

 

[JonAsad]

In case of an Israeli Pakistani war the following would be happening -

Pakistan will never be officially in a state of war.
viii. Israeli AF grounded for days, sufferring close to 30% permanent losses goes over to the strategic defence. PAF unable to keep momentum due to friction between Arab states and lack of Joint Initiative.


Scenario 3: Nuclear Option
Cluster****

This is the only reason i say keep Pakistan out of it-

The arabs have collectively screwed themselves before again and again in previous wars against Israel- and they gona screw us up badly if it comes to Pak actively participating--
Let the arabs fight Israel- we will watch only-

Scenario 1- your pow is entirely biased- Arabs can put better sanctions on israel than vice vera-

 

[ExtraOdinary]

In case of an Israeli Pakistani war the following would be happening -

Scenario 1: Local conflict only (Very very unlikely)
i. Israel will attempt a blockade of Pakistani vessels plying though the Suez.
ii. Pakistan's navy is less likely to rush the blockade around Suez, without help from other Arab nations.
iii. Proxy wars will begin. Israel has a massive intel structure and Pakistan's economy could take a fatal blow by some carefully placed sanctions. This affects banking and hence reserves.
iv. A negotiated settlement will be reached. No territorial losses obviously - status quo ante bellum.

Scenario 2: Global conflict non nuclear ( Somewhat likely)
i. Israel and Pakistan will do everything in Scenario 1
ii. Egypt, Lebanon, Jordan stay initially neutral. Syria and Iraq mobilize for war against Israel.
iii. War escalates - Egypt freezes Suez, Lebanon goes de facto into war - prodded by Hezbollah. Israel pursues Hezballah into Lebanon, Lebanon declares war on Israel, who return the favor. Syria, Iraq open hostilities against Israel, aiming for Golan.
iv. IDF launches unilateral offensive in Sinai to open Suez and succeeds. Egypt is drawn into conflict, but unable to move on land. Only contribution is by the airforce. Even that would be minimal: heavy Egyptian losses, little Israeli losses.
v. IDF allegedly launches posion gas attack in Gaza. Free Palestinian Government in Exile formed in Pakistan and recognized by almost all Muslim countries. Syria and Iraq launch their own missiles in retaliation against Israel. Multiple offensives lunched against Israel from the East - all would meet failure for a week.
vi. Iran de facto joins the war, de jure remains neutral. They send the Guards units.
vii. Pakistan airforce goes all out against Israel, in a surprise attack before declaration of war - from Iranian or East Syrian airbases to avoid detection. Israel's airbases would be knocked out of action and Israel's Golan position breached by Iraqi armour. Pakistan will never be officially in a state of war.
viii. Israeli AF grounded for days, sufferring close to 30% permanent losses goes over to the strategic defence. PAF unable to keep momentum due to friction between Arab states and lack of Joint Initiative.
ix. Israel gets a respite and gets US arms and weapons and inflicts serious losses on the PAF. PAF withdraws almost entirely to curtail losses. IDF counteroffensive retakes Golan. Syria starts looking for a way out.
x. Israel pushes out of Golan into the open plains. In Egypt, both sides remain on the defensive, Egyptians and Libyans providing token resistance.
xi. Israel threatens Beirut - Lebanon signs ceasefire. Syria follows, Egypt and Libya agree to a truce. Iraq is forced into the table by Syria and Iran ignores and forgets anything was on.
x. Pakistan builds memorial monuments and ceases all involvement.
xi. Borders return to pre-war lines as per UN declarations. Israel claims moral victory.

Scenario 3: Nuclear Option
Cluster****

Scenario 2 seems to be inspired by the Yom Kippur War ?? I would like the samson option though , the human race needs to be purged

 

[JonAsad]

Scenario 2 seems to be inspired by the Yom Kippur War ?? I would like the samson option though , the human race needs to be purged

would you like the Samson option jointly served by Pak and Israel to India on a platter instead?- that Human race definitely needs purging- -

 

[Menace2Society]

Send Israel poisoned Jalebis.

 

[GURU DUTT]

Send Israel poisoned Jalebis.

not a bad idea but israel is too far so instead send them to me

 

[ExtraOdinary]

would you like the Samson option jointly served by Pak and Israel to India on a platter instead?- that Human race definitely needs purging- -

It would most probably result in something like that, trigger a chain of nuclear exchanges wiping out humanity, atleast in Asia

 

[airmarshal]

A credible threat is enough for a coward state like Israel.

Israel can only bomb unarmed people of Gaza.

Dont forget IDF ran away leaving behind equipment in 2006 invasion of Lebanon when Hezbullah gave a serious challenge to it.

 

[Dr. Strangelove]

why are we gonna fight them

 

[airmarshal]

Its amazing how Pakistan survived all the shocks brought to it by CIA and its friendly intel agencies in the last decade.

Foreign intel tried all the tactics it used in Iraq and Syria recently to varying intensity but it filed. Pakistan has survived and there could be a reason for it. A reason we may not know and will reveal itself in future.