How tens of thousands of Syrians have 'disappeared'

[Solomon2]

I dont care, those who raise arms against the state, should put to death. I dont see Assad had any other choice but to stay tall.

So in your opinion the vast majority of Bangladeshis should have been "put to death" for having rebelled against the State of Pakistan in 1971?

 

[Azeri440]

I dont care, those who raise arms against the state, should put to death. I dont see Assad had any other choice but to stay tall.

a idiotic statement, if people don't have access to democratic means , then they have the right to rebel

 

[Madali]

It wouldn't surprise me if some were arrested, but to claim 65,000 were grabbed and then made to disappear seems ridiculous.

Like always, we apply a simple common sense.

The war has been going on for 4 years, so 12 months times 4 is 48 months. 65,000 divide by 48 is 1,354 such cases PER MONTH. Divide it by days and it is 45 cases PER DAY!!

This is a logistics & manpower nightmare. Assad would need to dedicate so much of his resources to do this daily job. Now, the article says it is higher, so 50 per day, 60 per day? If they work 24 hours, without any breaks, they'd have to get ride of 2-3 people every hour.

This is why Syrian Network for Human Rights or Syrian Observatory for Human Rights or Syrian Awesomeness for Human Rights are all full of crap. It's not only that there is no evidence for their claims, but mainly because it usually makes no sense if you take 5 minutes to think carefully about their claims.

 

[TopCat]

So in your opinion the vast majority of Bangladeshis should have been "put to death" for having rebelled against the State of Pakistan in 1971?

In 1971, it was a separatist movement and yes if FF had lost the war they would had certainly put to death.

Struggle against Assad is a movement for regime change (or if you want to say democracy) not a movement against the state. If you shoot at your own army or police you no longer believe in that state (in this case Syria) and you dont deserve to rule that state either.

After 1971 BD gone through a lot of dictator and democratic movement and none of them involved any arms struggle because, in all of the movement they believed in the statehood of Bangladesh and never attacked its institution.

 

[Madali]

al jazeera is propaganda newspaper but the news are true.
i trust more this kind of source and it is the original source ... long to read but showing (if needed to show) what is Assad dictatorship...
Document | Amnesty International

I scanned through it. Amnesty reports on the practice with first hand interviews (if I recall, they had 70 interviews), but the figure of 65,000 doesn't come from them, it comes from SNHR.

 

[TopCat]

a idiotic statement, if people don't have access to democratic means , then they have the right to rebel

Rebellion is not democratic movement. I can show you that none of the arms struggle had resulted in democracy if you go through history.

Good example of democratic movements are Philippines, South Korea, Singapore, Indonesia, Malaysia, Bangladesh, Pakistan, Turkey, Spain, Whole bunch of
South Americans and none of the movement involved raising arms against the state. Tell you one thing, all of the country were under far worse dictator than Assad ever had.

 

[Azeri440]

Rebellion is not democratic movement. I can show you that none of the arms struggle had resulted in democracy if you go through history.

Good example of democratic movements are Philippines, South Korea, Singapore, Indonesia, Malaysia, Bangladesh, Pakistan, Turkey, Spain, Whole bunch of
South Americans and none of the movement involved raising arms against the state. Tell you one thing, all of the country were under far worse dictator than Assad ever had.

a rebellion does not mean taking up arms and suddenly engulfing the nation into a civil war

democratic movements? are you serious? the whole reason of an uprising is because there is no other choice
what democratic movements do you expect if that democratic movement is erased in a matter of a day

it's up to the government how to handle an uprising , the government can either go with the people or against
in Syria's case the government went against using violence

 

[TopCat]

a rebellion does not mean taking up arms and suddenly engulfing the nation into a civil war

democratic movements? are you serious? the whole reason of an uprising is because there is no other choice
what democratic movements do you expect if that democratic movement is erased in a matter of a day

it's up to the government how to handle an uprising , the government can either go with the people or against
in Syria's case the government went against using violence

You are right on that first part..
2nd bolded part you are wrong. its up to the movement initiator how they going to handle the movement. Government regardless democracy or not will try to preserve the law and order.

 

[bdslph]

don't know true or not

this is war this things has happened but who did what will be hard to know

 

[Solomon2]

In 1971, it was a separatist movement and yes if FF had lost the war they would had certainly put to death.

So the State has a divine right to rule unless there is a successful movement to overthrow it. I think Machiavelli wrote something like that...