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‘OK, big brother’: Turkish military cooperate with ISIS on border, telephone calls reveal
Published time: 23 Feb, 2016 13:48Edited time: 23 Feb, 2016 15:48
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published the first batch in December.

The new transcripts published by the daily Monday are said to be conversations between Turkish officers and Mustafa Demir, a member of Islamic State (IS, formerly ISIL/ISIS) who is a leading figure on the Syrian-Turkish border.

“The transcripts and the documents in the investigation revealed that Demir received money… from smugglers at the border and cooperated with the officers as far as [border] crossings are concerned,”Cumhuriyet said.

‘Don’t let people die’: Turkish TV show accused of 'terrorist propaganda', investigated https://t.co/DigtPmnk7jpic.twitter.com/DDRtcGxP1e

— RT (@RT_com) January 12, 2016
In the first transcript, translated into English by Today’s Zaman, Demir is talking to a Turkish military officer.

- […] where are you, big brother? At the place where I told you to be?

- Yeah. We also saw you, your men…

- Is it possible for you to arrange that I talk with the commander here, regarding the business here? What if we could establish a contact here as we helped you...

- Okay [...] I'll pass this now. I have two military posts there. If the worst comes to the worst, I'll tell that to the commander of the station and have him take a look…

In another transcript, Demir allegedly talks with another Turkish officer, who says that he and his comrades are “in the minefield” and calls Demir to come to him immediately.

“We have stuff; come here from that side, the men are here...,” the transcript says.

“Okay, big brother, [I'm] coming…Is it [the mine field] the place where I gave First Lieutenant Burak a car?” Demir reportedly answers.

READ MORE: ‘Erdogan was in a fix’: Jailed Cumhuriyet chief on why Turkey punished journos for Syria revelations

Suruç & Ankara patlamaları emrini veren IŞİD Türk emiri İlhami Balı'nın yeni saldırı talimatları verdiği iddiası var pic.twitter.com/yrqtycRY4G

— TEO (@teo_dorakis) December 11, 2015
Mustafa is reported to have close ties with an IS leader, İlhami Balı, believed to be responsible for suicide bombings in Ankara, which rocked the capital in October, killing more 100 people.

READ MORE: Mystery over who bombed Turkish convoy allegedly carrying weapons to militants in Syria

This is not the only case of cooperation between Turkish military and Islamic State militants Cumhuriyet newspaper has revealed. In May, it reported that a Turkish convoy that was presumably hit by an airstrike in northwestern Syria was transporting weapons to terrorist organizations.

In November the editor-in-chief of the Cumhuriyet newspaper, Can Dundar, and its Ankara bureau chief, Erdem Gul, were arrested and are currently at the Silivri prison awaiting trial. No date has been set yet. Turkish prosecutors are demanding life sentences for both jounalists.

Dundar and Gul are charged each with one count of “gathering secret state documents for the purposes of political and military espionage,” as well as “attempting to topple the government of the Republic of Turkey.”
 
Please keep these "Bazari Molla" tricks for yourselves!! The Turkish Army is fighting tooth and nail against ISIS/PYD/PKK etc. Army of Yavuz is approaching fast, and results won't be different this time too...
 
‘OK, big brother’: Turkish military cooperate with ISIS on border, telephone calls reveal
Published time: 23 Feb, 2016 13:48Edited time: 23 Feb, 2016 15:48
Get short URL
56cc62fcc4618835798b45a2.jpg

© Sertac Kayar / Reuters
published the first batch in December.

The new transcripts published by the daily Monday are said to be conversations between Turkish officers and Mustafa Demir, a member of Islamic State (IS, formerly ISIL/ISIS) who is a leading figure on the Syrian-Turkish border.

“The transcripts and the documents in the investigation revealed that Demir received money… from smugglers at the border and cooperated with the officers as far as [border] crossings are concerned,”Cumhuriyet said.

‘Don’t let people die’: Turkish TV show accused of 'terrorist propaganda', investigated https://t.co/DigtPmnk7jpic.twitter.com/DDRtcGxP1e

— RT (@RT_com) January 12, 2016
In the first transcript, translated into English by Today’s Zaman, Demir is talking to a Turkish military officer.

- […] where are you, big brother? At the place where I told you to be?

- Yeah. We also saw you, your men…

- Is it possible for you to arrange that I talk with the commander here, regarding the business here? What if we could establish a contact here as we helped you...

- Okay [...] I'll pass this now. I have two military posts there. If the worst comes to the worst, I'll tell that to the commander of the station and have him take a look…

In another transcript, Demir allegedly talks with another Turkish officer, who says that he and his comrades are “in the minefield” and calls Demir to come to him immediately.

“We have stuff; come here from that side, the men are here...,” the transcript says.

“Okay, big brother, [I'm] coming…Is it [the mine field] the place where I gave First Lieutenant Burak a car?” Demir reportedly answers.

READ MORE: ‘Erdogan was in a fix’: Jailed Cumhuriyet chief on why Turkey punished journos for Syria revelations

Suruç & Ankara patlamaları emrini veren IŞİD Türk emiri İlhami Balı'nın yeni saldırı talimatları verdiği iddiası var pic.twitter.com/yrqtycRY4G

— TEO (@teo_dorakis) December 11, 2015
Mustafa is reported to have close ties with an IS leader, İlhami Balı, believed to be responsible for suicide bombings in Ankara, which rocked the capital in October, killing more 100 people.

READ MORE: Mystery over who bombed Turkish convoy allegedly carrying weapons to militants in Syria

This is not the only case of cooperation between Turkish military and Islamic State militants Cumhuriyet newspaper has revealed. In May, it reported that a Turkish convoy that was presumably hit by an airstrike in northwestern Syria was transporting weapons to terrorist organizations.

In November the editor-in-chief of the Cumhuriyet newspaper, Can Dundar, and its Ankara bureau chief, Erdem Gul, were arrested and are currently at the Silivri prison awaiting trial. No date has been set yet. Turkish prosecutors are demanding life sentences for both jounalists.

Dundar and Gul are charged each with one count of “gathering secret state documents for the purposes of political and military espionage,” as well as “attempting to topple the government of the Republic of Turkey.”
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OP and his fellow countrymen ( most of them ) are programmed to believe what they see, told etc... :D
 
As historically proven, a terrorist group that was once supported and protected can later be targetted and outlawed. So, Turkish Army now supporting the FSA terror group against the IS cannot do away the "alleged" past actions of the Turkish government.

I guess, when the right time comes, international courts will be looking at the case. As we speak, cases and evidence are being filed against the Turkish government officials.

Keep in mind, one cannot try Turkey as a state that is bigger than its governments. But I believe individuals and institutions will eventually face trial.

What has happened in Syria and foreign actors role in it won't be brushed away easily.
 
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As historically proven, a terrorist group that was once supported and protected can later be targetted and outlawed. So, Turkish Army now supporting the FSA terror group against the IS cannot do away the "alleged" past actions of the Turkish government.

I guess, when the right time comes, international courts will be looking at the case. As we speak, cases and evidence are being filed against the Turkish government officials.

Keep in mind, one cannot try Turkey as a state bigger than its governments. But I believe individuals and institutions will eventually face trial.

What has happened in Syria and foreign actors role in of won't be brushed away easily.

Indians could easily say the same about China when it comes to Maoist terror groups in India. So, spare us from your pseudo-ethical stance. This is an RT article published Feb/2016 during a period of high animosity between Russia and Turkey. Do you expect objective journalism from RT? If you do you should also subscribe the AKP party newspaper.
 
Indians could easily say the same about China when it comes to Maoist terror groups in India. So, spare us from your pseudo-ethical stance. This is an RT article published Feb/2016 during a period of high animosity between Russia and Turkey. Do you expect objective journalism from RT? If you do you should also subscribe the AKP party newspaper.

The allegations against the Turkish government involvement predate the animosity between Russia and Turkey. In various international media as well as opposition media and parties in Turkey itself, Turkish government's possible abetting and aiding the crimes of the IS has been mentioned various times over the past five years or so.

As I have said, this sort of major allegations are not laid out in a flash. It takes time, builds up painfully slowly. Right now I am convinced that many governments and agencies have collected and been collecting data and information to eventually use against Turkish government to indict some individuals.

This is not being altruist; no actor is assuming to be moral. Especially countries like France, the US cannot claim as such. If a case is brought against Turkey government in international courts, that will potentially be also due to certain selfish calculations. But, that's really not important in this case.

The fact is that the Turkish government have recklessly created a very bad sticky image regarding various terror groups operating inside Syria. And this even goes beyond Syria, in fact, involving places like Libya, Somalia and others. Nothing bodes well for Turkish government with respect to Syria.
 
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