How China Made Japan Irrelevant!!!

[IsaacNewton]

Japan is not a small country. It has 127 million people (10th largest in population) and 38k+ gdp per capita. Basically it is a high income country with over twice the population of UK.

Japan will remain a relevant country. In fact, it is an important country for many Chinese businesses, both as a market and as a source of investment money, due to its population size and income.

 

[Shotgunner51]

Most if not all of the countries in the chart of the OP lean towards the US-Japan axis for military/world politics
They only go for where money is

Dont be delusional like self proclaiming supa powa in our neighbouring country

Also for Japan worshipper(s), keep the "role model" to yourself (-ves) please. It just makes me puke!
Japan as a developed country can be used for our reference, like other nations

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LOL well said bro, "reference" is it then ...

And don't worry dude, no Chinese brother here will ever worship a Imperialism-happy regime who denies the horrible fact on historical astrocities committed. Neither would we become delusional to deny the fact that Japan is advanced in tech and huge in financial strength.

 

[Economic superpower]

Japan is still and will be always relevant for many ASEAN countries, as their commitment to investing in manufacturing industry, energy and global chain retailer and banking system is still unbeatable and been number one in the region for decades. For many ASEAN countries China realization investment is still low compared to Japan, yes China has became the largest trading partner for many ASEAN countries like Malaysia and Vietnam, but the relation is still not developing much further than that, meanwhile Japan has a more evidence presence in daily life of ordinary peoples in many ASEAN countries.

Chinese investment overseas will rise dramatically over the next few years. Only last year did Chinese ODI overtake FDI. As part of the 'go global' strategy, overseas investment (M&A and greenfield) from China will easily be number 1 in the world. China already dominates trade, investment is getting started. China is also a major financier to many countries through bank loans given by big Chinese banks. Japanese banks can never compete with the likes of ICBC, BOC and China Development Bank.

Japan is realising what it is like to go face to face with a powerful China that is 10 times its population. Even a developing China is already stronger than a fully developed Japan.

Japan's future is to be China's b***h.

LOL well said bro, "reference" is it then ...

And don't worry dude, no Chinese brother here will ever worship a Imperialism-happy regime who denies the horrible fact on historical astrocities committed. Neither would we become delusional to deny the fact that Japan is advanced in tech and huge in financial strength.

What financial strength?

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

@Economic superpower :

You are right that China is currently more powerful than Japan.

Still we need to take into account that China is not yet rich or technologically advanced enough to even be an independent power like Russia is. China cannot ride out sanctions from the West yet but that will change soon.

China is not more vulnerable than Russia against the western sanctions.

Otherwise, the US should already put the sanctions on us first.

The West has sanctioned Russia for many crucial components for their space industry, so China is now doing the job to fulfill the vacuum for Russia, so you cannot say that China is less independent than Russia.

Russia Turns to China for Aerospace Components: Report

 

[Economic superpower]

China is not more vulnerable than Russia against the western sanctions.

Otherwise, the US should already put the sanctions on us first.

The West has sanctioned Russia for many crucial components for their space industry, so China is now doing the job to fulfill the vacuum for Russia, so you cannot say that China is less independent than Russia.

Russia Turns to China for Aerospace Components: Report

China being so important to the global economy has done the classic 'hug your enemy' tactic, so that the enemy cannot shoot you. China being a large economy and a vital part of the world economy as a trader, investor and financier has made it impossible for the West to put sanctions on China.

Russia is not very important to the world economy, so its much easier to sanction them. Russian market is much smaller than China's market.

 

[UKBengali]

China is not more vulnerable than Russia against the western sanctions.

Otherwise, the US should already put the sanctions on us first.

The West has sanctioned Russia for many crucial components for their space industry, so China is now doing the job to fulfill the vacuum for Russia, so you cannot say that China is less independent than Russia.

Russia Turns to China for Aerospace Components: Report

You have a point as China can retaliate against Western sanctions but the Chinese are critically dependant on world trade to keep their economy going.

One massive vulnerability that China had is that it has no ability to protect it's merchant ships outside East Asian waters.

To be able to put effective sanctions on China would pretty much require the whole of the West to agree, and unless China does something to turn both US/EU against it the US cannot compel EU to sanction China.

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

China being so important to the global economy has done the classic 'hug your enemy' tactic, so that the enemy cannot shoot you. China being a large economy and a vital part of the world economy as a trader, investor and financier has made it impossible for the West to put sanctions on China.

Russia is not very important to the world economy, so its much easier to sanction them. Russian market is much smaller than China's market.

Russia can survive against the western sanctions, but without China's help, they will look much more weakened than now.

The US has initially planned to use the sanctions to incite the dissatisfaction of Russia's base population against Putin in order to overthrow him, but now this plan has been foiled by China.

You have a point as China can retaliate against Western sanctions but the Chinese are critically dependant on world trade to keep their economy going.

One massive vulnerability that China had is that it has no ability to protect it's merchant ships outside East Asian waters.

To be able to put effective sanctions on China would pretty much require the whole of the West to agree, and unless China does something to turn both US/EU against it the US cannot compel EU to sanction China.

China had survived the sanctions from both USA and USSR in the 1960-1970s, and during that time we had still developed our nukes, sailed our nuclear subs, sent our satellites into the space.

Today, it is different as China's economy has become more attached to the global economy, but also keep in mind that China's economic/strength has been strengthened by multiple folds as well, and the US knows that the sanctions against China will certainly not be a zero-sum game for them, but a lose-lose game for them.

- Militarily, it is impossible to block China's maritime trading road, as China can send the ASBM and HGV to sink those hostile warships who attempts to block the Malacca strait.

- Economically, China has already broken many technological monopolies of the US. Take this as an example, the bastion host, which was one of the monopoly technology held by the US, and China was the first one to break it with the domestic CPU.

China has successfully developed the first domestic Loongson processor-based bastion host

 

[UKBengali]

@ChineseTiger1986

We should agree to disagree on this.

I think China would be untouchable from 2025 onwards - it is not there quite yet IMO.

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

@ChineseTiger1986

We should agree to disagree on this.

I think China would be untouchable from 2025 onwards - it is not there quite yet IMO.

China right now also cannot be touched by the US sanctions.

The US sanctions on Russia not because they do really care about Crimea, but they are rather looking for the easy prey.

For them, China right now is the tougher prey.

 

[j20blackdragon]

Placing sanctions on China means you're placing sanctions on the supply chains of virtually all major multinational corporations.

High-technology exports (current US$) | Data | Table

It's also important to note that the same shipping lanes that pass through the Strait of Malacca also pass through the South China Sea. 40 percent of the world's commerce passes through this region.

China is currently undergoing a major naval expansion in order to control this very region. In the future, don't be surprised if the sanctions and naval blockades are actually coming from China instead of the US.

 

[terranMarine]

AND when the Kra Canal is completed, what use will it do to block the Strait of Malacca by our enemies?
China will have plenty of alternative routes to receive our black gold. When our Diego Garcias in SCS are ready, tremble my little pets

 

[Bussard Ramjet]

AND when the Kra Canal is completed, what use will it do to block the Strait of Malacca by our enemies?
China will have plenty of alternative routes to receive our black gold. When our Diego Garcias in SCS are ready, tremble my little pets

I just heard Thailand refused Chinese participation in Kra Canal. Can someone confirm?

 

[Nike]

Chinese investment overseas will rise dramatically over the next few years. Only last year did Chinese ODI overtake FDI. As part of the 'go global' strategy, overseas investment (M&A and greenfield) from China will easily be number 1 in the world. China already dominates trade, investment is getting started. China is also a major financier to many countries through bank loans given by big Chinese banks. Japanese banks can never compete with the likes of ICBC, BOC and China Development Bank.

Japan is realising what it is like to go face to face with a powerful China that is 10 times its population. Even a developing China is already stronger than a fully developed Japan.

Japan's future is to be China's b***h.



What financial strength?

just tell your companies don't make too much promise empty of investment through so many MoU, even Malaysia and Singapore beat you in this field in ASEAN region.

 

[Economic superpower]

just tell your companies don't make too much promise empty of investment through so many MoU, even Malaysia and Singapore beat you in this field in ASEAN region.

Chinese overseas investment is on the rise in a MASSIVE way. China has been investing in Africa and Latin America the most in the past for energy and raw materials. But now Chinese companies are investing in US, Europe and ASEAN. ASEAN still don't offer China much as Africa, Latin America, US and Europe.

Singapore, Malaysia and the rest of Asia will become tributary states as Chinese power and influence increase.

There is not a damn thing you can do about it but cry