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HIT's IFV?

The Ifv situation is abysmal. I can't stress enough how badly we need ifvs. Let's just say we have a minimum requirement of 4000 and currently only have a few hundred...
M113 based design does NOT qualify as an IFV. The only robust IFVs we have are the Saudi ones, I have heard about some Turkish in service but don't know much about that.
 
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Talking of Bradley turrets:-

Egyptian Infantry Fighting Vehicle

The Egyptian Infantry Fighting Vehicle (EIFV), also known as Infantry Fighting Vehicle Light (IFVL), is an Egyptian modification of the M113 Armored Personnel Carrier. It is a hybrid, based on an enlarged M113 chassis equipped with the complete two-man power-operated turret of the M2 BradleyIFV. The EIFV is currently in service with the Egyptian Army.

The EIFV was originally developed by BAE Systems, Ground Systems Division under contract to the Egyptian Ministry of Defense. It was developed to be a conversion of the M113, of which the Egyptian Army has a total of 2,650, as well as an additional 1,200 AIFVs (modified M113s), but it can also be produced as new vehicles. Design activities first commenced in 1995, and the first prototype was assembled in the Egyptian Tank Plant where assembly of the M1 Abrams is carried out for the Egyptian Army. The first prototype was completed in 1996 and performance validation trials were completed in mid-1997. Production in Egypt is undertaken by the Egyptian Tank Plant, and the Egyptian Army plans to convert it existing AIFVs to the EIFV configuration.

The EIFV has three crewman, and can carry six soldiers, who enter the vehicle via a rear drop ramp. The driver is seated at the left front of the hull with the engine compartment to his right. The driver has a single-piece pop-up hatch cover which rotates over the engine cooling air intake grill when open, and is provided with four, day periscopes for observation.[1] The commander and the gunner are both positioned in the turret itself, and a hatch is provided for the commander on the turret roof.

Armor
The M113 chassis is enlarged to accommodate several modifications and to allow for more armor to be added. The hull of the EIFV is of all-welded 5083 aluminum armour which provides protection from small arms fire and shell splinters, able to defeat armour-piercing projectiles up to 14.5 mm in calibre over a 360° arc of attack.[1] Aluminum provides protection similar to that of steel armor while keeping the vehicle lightweight. An armor upgrade package produced by the AOI can significantly enhance the armor on the EIFV even further, allowing it to withstand armor-piercing 23 mm rounds, without sacrificing the vehicle's mobility. Optional upgrades for the vehicle include air conditioning, NBC protection and firing ports.

Maneuverability

To cope with the increased size and armor of the vehicle, a more powerful 400 hp Detroit Diesel 6V53TIA turbocharged/aftercooled diesel engine is installed in place of the original 275 hp engine on the M113, giving a power-to-weight ratio of 20 hp/ton. This is coupled to an Allison X200 cross-drive, four-speed Hydrokinetic transmission. As a result of the longer chassis and improved engine a sixth road wheel is added (the M113 only has five). As an option the vehicle can be of 350 hp only. The modifications allows the EIFV to keep up in terms of speed and mobility with modern tanks such as the M1A1/A2 Abrams, which are used by the Egyptian Army, despite the added weight. The vehicle can travers slopes up to 80%, side slopes of 40%, trenches 2200 mm wide, and vertical obstacles with a height of 710 mm

Armament

The M2 Bradley turret provides the EIFV with considerable firepower on a cheap M113 chassis, and allows it to engage personnel, armored vehicles and tanks, as well as low flying targets and helicopters. It has the same fire control and stabilization features on the M2 Bradley. The armament consists of the 25 mm M242 chain gun with 800 rounds and an effective range of 3000 m, and a coaxial 7.62 mm machine gun with 2,100 rounds. Using armor-piercing rounds, the chain gun can engage armored vehicles and tanks. The turret also has a two-tube TOW launcher, capable of launching TOW II ATGM missiles, which can destroy most tanks at a maximum range of 3750 m, enabling the vehicle to be used in an anti tank role. The only major drawback is that the missiles can only be launched when the vehicle is stationary. In addition to the two missiles in the launcher are four more missiles, stowed away inside the vehicle. The turret is standard equipped with passive IR and thermal imaging equipment.

Type Infantry fighting vehicle
Place of origin
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Egypt
Service history
In service
1995-present
Used by Egyptian Army
Production history
Designer
BAE Systems
Manufacturer Egyptian Tank Factory, Arab Organization for Industrialization
Unit cost $311,000
Produced 1997
Number built -1,200
Specifications
Weight
17.7 tons
Length 5.26 m
Width 2.82 m
Height 2.5 m
Crew 3+7
Armor Aluminum
Main
armament

25 mm M242 Chain Gun
BGM-71 TOW II
Secondary
armament

7.62 mm FN MAG
Engine Detroit Diesel 6V53TIA electronically controlled
400 hp at 2800 rpm
Power/weight 20.0 hp/ton
Transmission Hydrokinetic
Suspension torsion bar
Fuel capacity 454 liters
Operational
range

482 km
Speed 66 km/h

Egyptian Infantry Fighting Vehicle - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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The smaller SIFV

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Surprised you guys didn't go for something like this a long time ago!


This is from 1991:

HIT's IFV?


Hamza (also armed with a 25mm and a 7.62mm) itself has been in service since over a decade"

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Apart from this we have these things armed with RBS's,Baktar Shikan ATGMS and TOWs.. (apart from other modifications and add on armour n cage armour).....


Excluding other IFVs in service... like BTR-80s,Skods,Fahd,Dragoon IFV,Chinese Type 22 and Commandos and soon (hopefully) VN-1 (to be produced under ToT).
 
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This is from 1991:

HIT's IFV?


Hamza (also armed with a 25mm and a 7.62mm) itself has been in service since over a decade"

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Apart from this we have these things armed with RBS's,Baktar Shikan ATGMS and TOWs.. (apart from other modifications and add on armour n cage armour).....


Excluding other IFVs in service... like BTR-80s,Skods,Fahd,Dragoon IFV,Chinese Type 22 and Commandos and soon (hopefully) VN-1 (to be produced under ToT).
Hey desert fighter, Can you please post some more pictures of the Al-Hamza if you have any? This has caught my attention. Never thought we had those
 
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Syed ali and Rampage.
Guys can we please cool down. Rampage most of us who are TTs don't know much about armour with the exception of ex or current army guys so please forgive me but by simply looking at a picture I cant honestly tell how thick the armour is. By the way the Saudi armour plate thickness is visible as the rear door is open. So once again I am requesting you both to kindly settle your differences and stop this squabbling.
Kindest regards
Araz
 
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New upgrades have been used on M series APCs like added armour and roll cage arnour ..means greater survivablity.

The armor on this looks like butter and the turret is manned i hope we arent making more of this kind of crap. We should do a J.V or license production with the trukish
 
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