Hindu citizens looking for Jinnah's Pakistan

[Lord ZeN]

Start with giving citizenship to ones who are living there for more than 5 decades, Once you are done with giving citizenship to all Hindus already in India than go on and invite others.

Yeah nobody care about casts and are irrelevant but still your courts don't allow changing caste Can't change caste, SC to college student - The Times of India

It's for reservation purpose man. .. People belonging to SC & ST castes gets reservations in educational institutions.

 

[Sugarcane]

It's for reservation purpose man. .. People belonging to SC & ST castes gets reservations in educational institutions.

Reservation purpose or not, Fact is that caste is very much relevant in India and your constitution recognize it.

 

[Lord ZeN]

Reservation purpose or not, Fact is that caste is very much relevant in India and your constitution recognize it.

There is no denying it ..... But certain castes are really backward & they needed reservation for their upliftment... So Pak Hindus , Sikhs can come here & stay here safely.

 

[Bang Galore]

Yeah nobody care about casts and are irrelevant but still your courts don't allow changing caste Can't change caste, SC to college student - The Times of India

How the heck do you change caste? Especially silly argument when, as in this case, it was sought to be done to get reservation that the person was not entitled to.

Reservation purpose or not, Fact is that caste is very much relevant in India and your constitution recognize it.

Caste is only relevant if you seek reservation, not otherwise.

 

[Sugarcane]

Caste is only relevant if you seek reservation, not otherwise.

Yeah - I know that

There is no denying it ..... But certain castes are really backward & they needed reservation for their upliftment... So Pak Hindus , Sikhs can come here & stay here safely.

Well IF India gives citizenship to all the Hindus who went to India and offer citizenship to ones in Pakistan than why anybody will have any objections if Pakistanis Hindus want to migrate to India and become Indian citizens in hope of better life.

 

[Lord ZeN]

Yeah - I know that

Well IF India gives citizenship to all the Hindus who went to India and offer citizenship to ones in Pakistan than why anybody will have any objections if Pakistanis Hindus want to migrate to India and become Indian citizens in hope of better life.

But GoP for some weird reason don't give visas to Hindus/Sikhs & our previous Govt. ( Congress) never allowed them in ... & there are also so many " Secular" people who dislikes it.

 

[Sugarcane]

But GoP for some weird reason don't give visas to Hindus/Sikhs & our previous Govt. ( Congress) never allowed them in ... & there are also so many " Secular" people who dislikes it.

The weird reason for not giving visa is that GoP can't issue Indian Visa

 

[mujhaidind]

Hindus in Pakistan are treated better than Muslims in India.


Hindus in Pakistan are mostly rich and middle-class. Muslims in India are mostly lower-class. Due to economic and social discrimination. And Hinduwadis oppossing Affirmative action for Muslim community.

 

[paritosh]

They are right IK & BZ are just playing politics.



First give citizenship to the ones who already went there, and also keep in mind Majority of Hindus in Pakistan are low cast as per Indian laws.

Can you please point to one "Indian Law" that is reflective of what you posted?

Reservation purpose or not, Fact is that caste is very much relevant in India and your constitution recognize it.

you are looking at it all wrong. Its a part of an "Affirmative Action" initiative.
Universal secret positive discrimination.

 

[mujhaidind]

But GoP for some weird reason don't give visas to Hindus/Sikhs & our previous Govt. ( Congress) never allowed them in ... & there are also so many " Secular" people who dislikes it.

They choose Pakistan, they have no right to be in India. The ones staying in India must be deported or prosecuted.

Indian Muslims won't ever let this communal move to grant citizenship to Pakistani and bangladeshi Hindus happen.

 

[Sugarcane]

Can you please point to one "Indian Law" that is reflective of what you posted?

You may consult your constitution

 

[paritosh]

You may consult your constitution

Ok. Please go through this link: Affirmative Action
Its American, but the policies of affirmative action are all the same. Thats what is covered in the constitution.
We can talk about this if you dont agree.

 

[Sugarcane]

Ok. Please go through this link: Affirmative Action
Its American, but the policies of affirmative action are all the same. Thats what is covered in the constitution.
We can talk about this if you dont agree.

Do you deny that your constitution recognize low & backward castes?

 

[paritosh]

Do you deny that your constitution recognize low & backward castes?

do you deny that brushing under the carpet is not the best course of action in the face of massive historic discrimination? stop with these non-denial denials. I am trying to have a constructive dialogue.

 

[SarthakGanguly]

Hindu citizens looking for Jinnah’s Pakistan - Pakistan - DAWN.COM

Members of Hindu community display fireworks on Diwali at Valmiki Mandir near Nila Gumbad

RAWALPINDI: Hindu citizens are demanding Jinnah’s Pakistan on the occasion of Diwali. From no official holiday on their religious festivals, Hindu marriage laws and social discrimination to life threatening security concerns, the Hindu community in Pakistan faces a myriad of problems.

“No holiday on Diwali is a minor issues. Our problems are much bigger,” said Akash Raj, a Hindu citizen.

He narrated that he got married many months ago but his wife is still waiting for her new Computerised National Identity Card.

“Why is Hindu marriage act still pending,” he demanded.

Raj criticised political leaders like Imran Khan and Bilawal Bhutto Zardari who are using Hindus for their own political gains. “If they actually care about minority rights, they should play a role in drafting legislation for us,” he said.

“Jogendra Nath Mandal was Pakistan’s first law minister and today we live in a state where we cannot even choose our own representatives,” said Rajiv Thakur, coordinator Pakistan Hindu Seva Welfare Trust.

“Religious minorities in Pakistan are facing problems because they do not have real community representatives in assemblies; we should be given the electoral right to choose our representatives in assemblies. Nobody raises our problems in assemblies, it feels like minority lawmakers are helpless too,” he added. Thakur demanded for the Pakistani school curriculum system to be reformed.

“When you promote hatred in schools, it results in creating hatred at a societal level. For a better Pakistan, followers of religions have an equal role to play,” he said.

Hindu Sikh Social Welfare Organisation President Jagmohan Arora demanded that the word ‘minority’ should not be used as it has negative implications. “We should be called ‘non-Muslim Pakistanis’,” he said.

“We all are Pakistanis and we all should have equal rights as the founder of Pakistan Quaid-i-Azam Mohammad Ali Jinnah declared in his August 11 speech. The society should not be divided on the basis of minority or majority,” Arora elaborated.

All Pakistan Hindu Rights Movement Vice Chairman Ashok Chand demanded for the government to allot funds to Hindus and other religious minorities at the district level for the celebration of their religious festivals.

“Gazetted holiday should be announced for the minorities on their religious festivals and foolproof security should be provided to the holy places,” he said.

Ashok Kumar thanked Imran Khan and Bilawal Bhutto Zardari for celebrating Diwali.

“Other political parties and especially the government should also follow in their footsteps and share in our happiness,” he added.

Published in Dawn, October 26th, 2014

They should stop crying and try to move elsewhere. India can accommodate the religious refugees like she always has.

Indian Muslims won't ever let this communal move to grant citizenship to Pakistani and bangladeshi Hindus happen.

We'll see.
Hindu Sindhis from Pakistan to get elusive Indian citizenship - Economic Times