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‘Highest level’ of sanctions on Iran: What it means for Tehran and others

Just one question pleaj. Pleaj tell us is "Chah Chah Chah Bahar still on????????????? LOL

Tehran and New Delhi have time to find a solution... as you might know that we were among the selected few who were doing business when far more strict ban was there... that's too by U.N., Europe and US...

So we are hopeful...

Watch how fast Iran's "civilization friend" Ganga India flushes Tehran down the chute ...

Tehran has already shown us to keep country ahead of friendship... they backtracked on Farzad gas feild deal once the sanctions were revoked last time... plus several other projects were also provided to Russia and China...

I personally don't feel any harm in that because it is the duty of every leadership to keep its nation's interest at forefront...

The Mullahs in Iran literally are playing out the story of "100 onions or 100 lashes". Guy gets asked after he is found guilty. What you choose. 100 onions oe 100 lashes. He opts for what he thinks the easy choice. Goes with onions. But ten onions down he opts for lashes. Ten lashes down he switches again to onions. Rest he gets 100 of both.

Tehran should have either not played with nukes or if it did it should have gone all hell for nukes. Done it. End off. But dither here and there. Another thing Tehran should just invest 100% in China. But the mullahs will flirt with India, China, Europe, Pakistan and even USA. Want to buy planes? Yeh go for Boeing. Now they are about to get jacked.

What a tragedy. A great country, a great people, a great civilization being ruined by mullacrats.

Here I completely agree with you... if Iran wants nukes, they should pursue their dream without thinking of current consequence...
 
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Not really. It was more a regional thing -- northwest South Asia being culturally, religiously and racially similar and having a shared common history. That's how the name PAKSTAN came into being. There is no Islam in PAKSTAN.

The idea of PAKSTAN later (blame politics) morphed into pan-South-Asian-Muslim (note I said Muslim, not Islamic - neither Iqbal nor Jinnah envisioned a sharia based Islamic state).
So...as far as Iqbal or Jinnah are concerned, yes agreed, they both not only parted ways the 7th century scholarly beliefs of sharia they actually held in ridicule and contempt any scholar of their time who insisted that the 7th century interpretation of Islam cannot be disputed nor questioned. But it would be erroneous to say that Islam was not central to their very political ideology. Islam was very much a center of their thinking but they differed greatly with traditional way of thinking and were the introducers of a new contemporary ideology that we will practice democracy with the framework provided by the Quran and the Sunnah, Pakistan shall be a laboratory for Islam that shall provide a new model to the world to live by since the interest based global banking system had brought humanity to the brink of destruction. Please read some of Jinnah's quotes below and feel free to visit the site, the URL is in the picture:
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Great news. Finally the Yemenese people will free from the irani-supported terrorist group Houthis and the Syrians free from ISIS
syria already free from ISIS, it is just that as syrian gov is an ally to Russia,US does not want to leave it that way!
I am touched if you say US care syrian people' benifits!
 
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Saudi Arabia welcomes US withdrawal from Iran nuclear deal
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Trump announced the US will pull out of the landmark nuclear accord with Iran. (AP)
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  • Saudi Arabia: The Iranian regime took advantage of the economic benefits afforded by the lifting of sanctions and used them to continue its destabilizing activities in the region
  • The Kingdom reaffirms its support of the strategy previously announced by President Trump towards Iran
JEDDAH: Saudi Arabia welcomed the announcement on Tuesday by President Donald Trump that the United States is withdrawing from the Iran nuclear deal. The government said it also supports the reinstatement of economic sanctions on the Iranian regime, which were suspended under the agreement.

The Kingdom’s previous support for the Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action — signed in 2015 by Iran and the P5+1 group of countries China, France, Russia, the United Kingdom, the United States and Germany — was based, it said, on the conviction that all possible steps must be taken that might help to prevent the proliferation of weapons of mass destruction in the Middle East, and the wider world.

“The Iranian regime however, took advantage of the economic benefits afforded by the lifting of sanctions,” the government said in a statement released by Saudi Press Agency, “and used them to continue its destabilizing activities in the region, especially by developing its ballistic missiles and supporting terrorist organizations in the region, including Hezbollah and the Houthi militias.” It said the groups used these capabilities, provided by Iran, to target civilians in the Kingdom and Yemen, “as well as repeatedly targeting international shipping lanes in a blatant violation of UN Security Council resolutions.”

The statement continued: “The Kingdom reaffirms its support of the strategy previously announced by President Trump towards Iran, and hopes the international community will take a firm and unified stance against the Iranian regime, and its destabilizing aggression in the region, its support to terrorist groups, particularly Hezbollah and the Houthi militias, and its support of the Assad regime — which has committed heinous crimes against its people that led to the death of more than half a million civilians, including through the use of chemical weapons.”

It concluded: “Based on this position, the Kingdom asserts its commitment to work with its partners in the United States and the international community to reach the goals announced by President Trump, and the necessity to address the dangers posed by the policies of Iran on international peace and security through a holistic approach that is not limited to its nuclear program, but addresses its hostile activities, including Iran's interference in the internal affairs of countries in the region, its support of terrorism, and to prevent Iran from ever possessing weapons of mass destruction.”

Boeing says it will follow US policy on Iran after Trump withdraws from nuclear deal
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File photo showing a Boeing B777 passenger aircraft taking off. (Reuters)
Updated 08 May 2018
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May 08, 201819:14
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New York: Boeing said Tuesday it will continue to take its cue from US government policy on sales to Iran after President Donald Trump announced the US would withdraw from the Iran nuclear pact.
“Following today’s announcement, we will consult with the US government on next steps,” said Gordon Johndroe, a vice president of government operations communications.
“As we have throughout this process, we’ll continue to follow the US government’s lead.”
The statement was released by the aerospace giant shortly after Trump’s remarks again lambasting the 2015 agreement as “defective at its core.”
Boeing chief executive Dennis Muilenburg said last month the company has delayed deliveries of 777 planes to Iran amid the Trump administration’s reconsideration of the nuclear deal.
After lengthy negotiations and tight oversight by the Obama administration, Boeing in December 2016 announced a landmark agreement to sell Iran Air 80 aircraft valued at $16.6 billion.
The aircraft had been expected to be delivered starting in late 2018. However, Muilenburg said financial targets this year had not accounted for plane deliveries to Iran.
Boeing also had announced a contract in April 2017 to sell Iran Aseman Airlines 30 Boeing 737 MAX aircraft for $3 billion, with purchase rights for another 30 aircraft. Deliveries were to begin in 2022.
Shares of Dow member dropped 0.8 percent to $337.72 in afternoon trading.

Iran rial plunges to new low after Trump decides to leave nuclear deal
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Iran’s various Rial banknotes, bearing a portrait of Iran’s late founder of Islamic Republic Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini, next to the United States 100-dollar bills bearing the portrait of US statesman, inventor and diplomat Benjamin Franklin. Iran’s rial plunged to new low after US President Donald Trump decided to leave the nuclear deal. (AFP)
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DUBAI: The Iranian rial plunged to a record low against the US dollar in the free market on Wednesday after US President Donald Trump decided to withdraw from a deal on Tehran’s nuclear program, fueling fears of an economic crisis in Iran.
The dollar was being offered for as much as 75,000 rials, compared to around 65,000 just before Trump announced his decision on Tuesday night, according to foreign exchange website Bonbast.com (https://www.bonbast.com), which tracks the free market.
Dealers in Tehran quoted similar levels on Wednesday, according to an Iranian economist outside the country who is in touch with them. One dealer said the rial had hit 78,000, while another said he had made two sales of dollars at 80,000.
The currency has been sliding for months because of a weak economy, financial difficulties at local banks and heavy demand for dollars among Iranians who feared a pullout by Washington from the nuclear deal, and renewed US sanctions against Tehran, could shrink the country’s exports of oil and other goods.
The rial has tumbled from around 57,500 at the end of last month and 42,890 at the end of last year — a freefall that threatens to boost inflation, hurt living standards and reduce the ability of Iranians to travel abroad.
In an effort to halt the slide, Iranian authorities announced last month they were unifying official and free-market exchange rates at a single level of 42,000, and banning any trade at other rates under the threat of arrest.
But this step failed to stamp out the free market because authorities have been supplying much less hard currency through official channels than consumers are demanding. Free market trade simply went underground, dealers said.
Tehran residents told Reuters on Wednesday that activity in the free market had decreased considerably, because people feared getting arrested and the wild volatility of exchange rates increased the risk for dealers.
Nevertheless, the dealer who reported dollar sales at 80,000 said one of his sales was to a person who had sold his apartment a week ago. This person had now decided to buy dollars instead of another apartment in Iran, he said.

It means you shoulda made your nukes while you still had the chance instead of turning coat and stabbing a brotha in the back!

A nuclear Iran would be nightmare for GCC and Pakistan.
 
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UK,France and Germany does not agree as US to abolish the iranian agreement!

Its tokenism. US has clearly said any European companies have 6 months to wind down business with Iran or face US sanctions. @Chinese-Dragon

Hmm...how?

Too long subject to discuss. You have to see the finance structures of East India company to industrial revolution (specifically City of london financing and where) and then the role in WW1 and WW2 (and interim period) and post war cold war scenario (as it relates to steel + coal + infra community which turned in to EEC and then EU + how NATO and marshall + morgenthau plans relate to that).

This all points to a trade off the europowers (and japan) made with US, in return for security framework, they will entirely defer to US geopolitical ambitions (and US threw em a bone in keeping the Europe heritage banking framework and augmented to it over time with bretonwoods* and then GATT and WTO).

*In fact it is significant that it was the US that scrapped the bretonwoods system (and gold standard) after it lost much blood and treasure in Vietnam.
 
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I had posted before in another thread that the USA would not back down from Syria in a defeat. That they would retreat temporarily if that have to, and will regroup, refresh and relaunch and come back at it from another angle.

If the USA has decided to seriously sanction Iran, and anyone else who is doing business with that country, then I see a war looming in next 10-15 years. The only way out for the Iranians is to test a nuclear bomb. Otherwise this looks like a pre-war buildup to me.

The USA and the KSA have certain objectives in that region that they want to achieve at all costs. The only factor that could hamper their efforts is where China decides to park her fleet.

Regardless of everything above, if USA ends up giving exceptions to any entity or country to be able to do business with Iran, then all of this is just a smokescreen and the business will continue as usual.

Then again, Bill Clinton launched missiles to create a distraction from the Monica Lewinsky scandal. Trump could raise the stakes to distract from the Stormy Daniels scandal. After all, nothing is better for ratings and patriotism than a freshly launched war.
 
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Too long subject to discuss. You have to see the finance structures of East India company to industrial revolution (specifically City of london financing and where) and then the role in WW1 and WW2 (and interim period) and post war cold war scenario (as it relates to steel + coal + infra community which turned in to EEC and then EU + how NATO and marshall + morgenthau plans relate to that).

This all points to a trade off the europowers (and japan) made with US, in return for security framework, they will entirely defer to US geopolitical ambitions (and US threw em a bone in keeping the Europe heritage banking framework and augmented to it over time with bretonwoods* and then GATT and WTO).

*In fact it is significant that it was the US that scrapped the bretonwoods system (and gold standard) after it lost much blood and treasure in Vietnam.
I keep reading about Rothschild family controlling the world....what are some unbiased source you recommend to read, about that?
 
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How will these sanctions work if the Europeans are still sticking with the deal? Will the US sanctions European companies and alienate themselves?
 
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I keep reading about Rothschild family controlling the world....what are some unbiased source you recommend to read, about that?

No such thing as unbiased source for this subject. Everything has been obscured by nebulosity...but my basic process after reading tons of all sides of the arguments is that if there is smoke, there is fire....and there is definitely much smoke.

You can find lot of books regarding rotschild family and their banking and finance connections by simply doing google and amazon searches. People have written reviews (so you can get idea of the tone of the material), and people have reviewed the reviews too even. If books aren't your thing, there are many websites/forums too with material/analysis (and of course youtube stuff) but of course have to be mindful who is feeding the info to you and what the underlying sources are.
 
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