Here's a look at how the militaries of India and Pakistan stack up: Reuters

[YeBeWarned]

PA has 620,000 active troops, with 2 Million Armed Tribal's only in FATA .. Add up Hor's , Baloch and Punjabi's and we can match Indians .

 

[Pak-Canuck]

mig-21s and jaguars are vulnerable from indian side
only f-7pgs are vulnerable from Pakistani side..

Pakistan has 374 fighter jets (excluding FT-7 trainers)

Pak has nearly 500 operable fighter jets at the moment:

180+ Mirage III/V's
140+ F-7 MP/PG's
100+ JF-17 Block I/II's
78 F-16's A/B/C/D's

These are excluding the FT-7 trainers

 

[maverick1977]

PA has 620,000 active troops, with 2 Million Armed Tribal's only in FATA .. Add up Hor's , Baloch and Punjabi's and we can match Indians .

HIT should have plans to arms 2 millions reserves with ATGMs, LMGs, Anza mark 3 and G3s. should have a manufacturing capability for 1 billion 7.62mm, 4 Million G3s, 5000 ATGMs and 1000 ANZAs mark 3 yearly.

Can pakistani manucaturing can scale these numbers for a sustained war? and move manfucaturing to Loralai or Khuzdar across indus into mountains for sustained logistical support ... and u will see how anyone can conquer pakistan

 

[Rusty]

The liberal part of me doesn't want this.
But the Patriotic part of me want's Pakistan to institute a draft.
Every adult (men and women) from age of 18 -35 must be enrolled and recive training every 2 years. With a 1 year training at the age of 18.

tht will give Pakistan the ability to bring about millions of troops to fight India's advantage in numbers.

 

[YeBeWarned]

HIT should have plans to arms 2 millions reserves with ATGMs, LMGs, Anza mark 3 and G3s. should have a manufacturing capability for 1 billion 7.62mm, 4 Million G3s, 5000 ATGMs and 1000 ANZAs mark 3 yearly.

Can pakistani manucaturing can scale these numbers for a sustained war? and move manfucaturing to Loralai or Khuzdar across indus into mountains for sustained logistical support ... and u will see how anyone can conquer pakistan

we don't need that, these Civilians are last resort , but Pakistan Paramilitary with Active/reserve is enough to hold IA advances .

 

[Cuirassier]

Pak has nearly 500 operable fighter jets at the moment:

180+ Mirage III/V's
140+ F-7 MP/PG's
100+ JF-17 Block I/II's
78 F-16's A/B/C/D's

These are excluding the FT-7 trainers

82 Mirage III
51 Mirage V
45 F7PG (one lost recently)
20 F7P
98 JF-17A
1 JF-17B
76 F-16

Rest are in storage, can be activated if needed due to attrition.

 

[maverick1977]

HIT should have plans to arms 2 millions reserves with ATGMs, LMGs, Anza mark 3 and G3s. should have a manufacturing capability for 1 billion 7.62mm, 4 Million G3s, 5000 ATGMs and 1000 ANZAs mark 3 yearly capability.

Can pakistani manucaturing can scale these numbers for a sustained war?

we don't need that, these Civilians are last resort , but Pakistan Paramilitary with Active/reserve is enough to hold IA advances .

if you want to eventually defeat india and liberate kashmir, that is if india started the war, you have to come up with a plan like this...

 

[YeBeWarned]

if you want to eventually defeat india and liberate kashmir, that is if india started the war, you have to come up with a plan like this...

There is no military solution to Kashmir, Pakistan or India can not take Kashmir by force ..

 

[SSGcommandoPAK]

India is ahead in numbers but we should keep in mind one point that India cannot deploy all of its assets during war cause India has another big rival in the north China thus India would have to deploy 40% of its assets to keep China under check.

 

[GriffinsRule]

82 Mirage III
51 Mirage V
45 F7PG (one lost recently)
20 F7P
98 JF-17A
1 JF-17B
76 F-16

Rest are in storage, can be activated if needed due to attrition.

We have at least 102 JF-17s, given that the picture of 18-254 was posted on the forum earlier. Mirages are hard to track due to crashes, and not knowing what specific variants crashed, but their numbers are right around ~130 or less as you pointed.

 

[syed_yusuf]

India is ahead in numbers but we should keep in mind one point that India cannot deploy all of its assets during war cause India has another big rival in the north China thus India would have to deploy 40% of its assets to keep China under check.

This is a wrong assessment

 

[AyanRay]

The liberal part of me doesn't want this.
But the Patriotic part of me want's Pakistan to institute a draft.
Every adult (men and women) from age of 18 -35 must be enrolled and recive training every 2 years. With a 1 year training at the age of 18.

tht will give Pakistan the ability to bring about millions of troops to fight India's advantage in numbers.

The rationalist in you should say that it's a horrible idea. Do you have any idea what it would cost the Pakistani taxpayers to train every single individual between the age of 18-35 and also employ them for one year? I guess around 3-4 million people attain the age of 18 every year in Pakistan, if you ignore the current population in that age bracket, you guys have to first train 3-4 million people every year and deploy them in active military service for one year and pay them salary. It's ok for small and rich countries like South Korea or Israel to have such ideas where population is small and rich enough to pay for their own training and services, but not a big and low income country like Pakistan.

 

[Trango Towers]

PA has 620,000 active troops, with 2 Million Armed Tribal's only in FATA .. Add up Hor's , Baloch and Punjabi's and we can match Indians .

In battles nowadays numbers dont matter much

 

[Rusty]

The rationalist in you should say that it's a horrible idea. Do you have any idea what it would cost the Pakistani taxpayers to train every single individual between the age of 18-35 and also employ them for one year? I guess around 3-4 million people attain the age of 18 every year in Pakistan, if you ignore the current population in that age bracket, you guys have to first train 3-4 million people every year and deploy them in active military service for one year and pay them salary. It's ok for small and rich countries like South Korea or Israel to have such ideas where population is small and rich enough to pay for their own training and services, but not a big and low income country like Pakistan.

I agree, it will be expensive. But if you look at the south Korea model, they don't get paid for the year they train. So the biggest expense will be housing/feedin (not including the actual military part)

 

[BHarwana]

Pakistani mirages are there to fire RAAD and go home. A single mirage of Pakistan can take out an entire city. That is the role of mirage.