MastanKhan
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Hi,
Years ago--the aircraft built by an air force---for the air force---came out with a bang but in the years gone by---its declared potency fizzled out like a can of stale beer on a hot sunday afternoon.
The claims were big initially---the chest thumping loud---pride of ownership and strut in the step. All the news that came out then was that it was way beyond expectations---ie the BLK 1---a very strong and modern machine that is around somewhat 80-90 % of the F16 BLK 15 capabilities.
We were all happy---we all went gaga---we all praised our air force personal. In due time---the aircraft got equipped with a better radar to make it BVR capable---the output of the power plant was increased to give it more thrust and the paf did claim it on public forums about its achievements.
The weight carrying capacity also increased from 3500 KG to 4500 KG. The ability to integrate and launch the C802, AM400CKG, SD10 B BVR missile were all very welcome news to the pakistanis.
It was all wonderful till the paf started down playing the capabilities of the JF17 and started pitching to the U S that they do not have anything to make the strike runs against the terrorist hideouts other than the F16.
What that meant was that there were some shortcoming in the JF17 aircraft that it was not programmed to use smart bombs---and in this day and age---if your aircraft cannot use the smart bombs---you have a problem.
But I have had probelm believing in this news---because I remember very well when the first batch of the JF17's came out---it was declared that they were for ground strike missions---and there was a lot of hue and cry by the members of this forum as to why---we needed a BVR capable air superiority aircraft and what we are being rewarded is a ground pounder---. We were looking for an eagle in the skies and we ended up with a mule.
Supposedly the BLK 2 aircraft corrected that problem---and all the JF17's being upgraded to BLK 2 capabilities were also BVR capable.
So---my question has been that to get the F16's---did the Paf sabotage the capabilities of the JF17 and made it look worst than it is---.
Now---in doing so---has it done any thing that could have had a negative effect on the sale of this aircraft.
The problem with the JF 17 aircraft is that it has no outside oversight committee that oversees this program and keeps a sharp eye on the shortcoming of the program---I mean to say---if the fox is guarding the hen house---who is going to complain about the missing chicken?
@Quwa
Years ago--the aircraft built by an air force---for the air force---came out with a bang but in the years gone by---its declared potency fizzled out like a can of stale beer on a hot sunday afternoon.
The claims were big initially---the chest thumping loud---pride of ownership and strut in the step. All the news that came out then was that it was way beyond expectations---ie the BLK 1---a very strong and modern machine that is around somewhat 80-90 % of the F16 BLK 15 capabilities.
We were all happy---we all went gaga---we all praised our air force personal. In due time---the aircraft got equipped with a better radar to make it BVR capable---the output of the power plant was increased to give it more thrust and the paf did claim it on public forums about its achievements.
The weight carrying capacity also increased from 3500 KG to 4500 KG. The ability to integrate and launch the C802, AM400CKG, SD10 B BVR missile were all very welcome news to the pakistanis.
It was all wonderful till the paf started down playing the capabilities of the JF17 and started pitching to the U S that they do not have anything to make the strike runs against the terrorist hideouts other than the F16.
What that meant was that there were some shortcoming in the JF17 aircraft that it was not programmed to use smart bombs---and in this day and age---if your aircraft cannot use the smart bombs---you have a problem.
But I have had probelm believing in this news---because I remember very well when the first batch of the JF17's came out---it was declared that they were for ground strike missions---and there was a lot of hue and cry by the members of this forum as to why---we needed a BVR capable air superiority aircraft and what we are being rewarded is a ground pounder---. We were looking for an eagle in the skies and we ended up with a mule.
Supposedly the BLK 2 aircraft corrected that problem---and all the JF17's being upgraded to BLK 2 capabilities were also BVR capable.
So---my question has been that to get the F16's---did the Paf sabotage the capabilities of the JF17 and made it look worst than it is---.
Now---in doing so---has it done any thing that could have had a negative effect on the sale of this aircraft.
The problem with the JF 17 aircraft is that it has no outside oversight committee that oversees this program and keeps a sharp eye on the shortcoming of the program---I mean to say---if the fox is guarding the hen house---who is going to complain about the missing chicken?
@Quwa
