Hassan Nissar

[forcetrip]

Its our false pride which blinds us from seeing reality and engaging in solution finding. It is not just a Pakistani problem, reading some Indian posts I think it is more of a sub-continent problem.

 

[pak-marine]

i am impresed . so right this guy is ... an eye opener for youth!

 

[asq]

He is wrong on some point and right on few.

His knowledge of Muslim history is salective, My answer for him is that if we did not produce any greats, than how come we are of all Nations, we are Scandanavians. French. English. Americans. Asians chinese and Idians.

Our failings came upon us due to complecancy caused by over confidance and abandoning of our rules given to us by our holy scipture and by our Prophet (P.B.U.H.).

But than it happens to the best of it.

Now we have come arround the circle, we are on the right path, Media is exposing what was never talked about, Coruption was done by few and never reported. It is not the case now.

So take heart my fellow Muslims we are on the right path, all we have to do is to weed out bad apples and go from their.

we shall be the next power houses in the world. INSHA ALLAH.

 

[jin]

Hassan Nisar rox in his first video. But he goes too critical and even get blind at the achievements made, drop himself into pessimists.

 

[sparklingway]

Guy's keep in mind Hasan Nisar was a die hard communist activist and propagandist during college years and beyond. He was trained and brainwashed by the Soviets during college days as they were spreading propaganda and making plans to come to Pakistan, he even admits it in one of the videos.

There hasn't been any revolutionary, ever, who wasn't a socialist so drink your own socialism hate potion.

The 1951 Rawalpindi Conspiracy Case was a farce to prosecute and harass the rising left. Details were not released for they were "detrimental" to the holy cow of "national security". It was an attempt at silencing dissent in the armed forces and political class. I'm not saying that dissent in armed forces should be tolerated, but rather than the case was plain bogus. Our accounts of those events are based entirely on biographies written later as back then the event was shrouded in a cloud of mystery and the cloak of secrecy was used to hide the truth. The charges of the left in Pakistan getting aid from the soviets and being trained to be rebels were as true as the ones that Joesph McCarthy came with in the US. Plain bogus and nothing more than enhanced fear. One cannot neglect the fact that McCarthyism was so deep in the US State Department that they asked many other countries to clean themselves of "commies" as well. Ayub, the ever so diligent servant of his American masters, rose to the post of the CnC only two months before. Allah, Army and America.

The left in Pakistan has been silenced thanks to the efforts of Mard e Momin Zia ul Haq. Undoubtedly it will rise for the democratization fo society is always diverted to the favour of the bourgeois class.

Also, there's a stark difference in Communism and Socialism. Thought it might help some readers search it up and learn.

 

[SekrutYakhni]

Some of his points are very valid...
He is a good writer (some points are very valid)
but a complete failure speaking strategically...

Bush did not say sorry for waging Iraq War on the basis of Weapons of Mass Destruction even though they could not find any...
Same goes to Mughals...
Who admits his mistake on that level?

See religious war in Europe...
Protestants vs Catholics
Calvinists and so on

I mean every country was involved in leg pulling in Europe (including people)..
It happens everywhere...
There are more blind patriotic people than rational ones

Since when the U.S. started to teach their children in schools about the mistakes they did?
So, the idea of blind patriotism is seen in every society...

There is no such society who thinks scholarly regardless of their national interest.


The idea of calling someone a traitor is based on one reason i.e. If someone says something (history wise) which contradicts your believes than that person is a traitor.
To learn history one should be neutral.

I like Hassan Nisar's work but blind patriotism is seen in every society..

He is quite right that we should not criticize others for our problems.
We should be strong enough to defend those acts...
BUT at the same time he is presenting Western Society as the most glorious one...

When Hassan Nissar said in the video that traitors are not the part of western culture because the demands of the people and leaders were/are the same..
So, when British Empire expanded and committed those horrendous acts..it means the British civilians were equally responsible?

 

[sparklingway]

These Hasan Nisar videos are posted almost weekly and only thing gained out of them is that a bunch of people call him "traitor" and "kafir" and another bunch start debating history, when their own myopia wont' let them do some introspection and laziness won't allow them to read and study history.

 

[QADRI]

Oh Allah ka banday...Dr. Abdul Salam was a great Pakistani Genius who won a nobel prize.
He is the one person who played a key role in the establishment of Pakistan Atomic Energy commission, the Space and upper atmosphere research commission and the KANUPP (nuclear power plant near karachi).

It is sad that AQ Khan becomes the only hero when Abdul Salam, Munir Ahmed Khan and their peers were the ones who actually were the founding fathers of Pakistans nuclear and other advanced research projects.

Dr. AQ Khan is someone whom we should appreciate, however i have seen no such appreciation for the real founders of our nuclear program and that is pure nonsense.

Maybe AQ Khan fit Zia's pseudo religious profile which a Qadiani like Abdul Salam did not and so was promoted as a hero while others were sidelined...anyways i feel very sad when we do not remember the geniuses behind the independent and original research carried out in Pakistan.

Oops sory buddy I mean to say Dr. Abdul Kalam,that was my mistake. I am also a big fan of Dr. Abdul salam and i wish to see more people like him in Pakistan. Now i am clear i guess.

 

[QADRI]

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[QADRI]

Do I smell JI here? I do remember reading about the attack on the Chaklala airport when Dr. Salam came to receive his NI. The story of the prosecution of Dr. Salam and the glory that had been denied to his story should make you bury your head in shame.

Buddy don't b angry, i was mistaken, i want to say Dr. Abdul kalam, instead of Dr. Abdul salam in that post. I am also a big fan of Dr. Abdul salam.....sory that was my mistake.

 

[Zee-Gen]

Hassan Nisar can pay homage to Dr. Abdul Salam, he deserves, but does it really necessary to debase A. Q. Khan at the same time……….using words like “Chor” is really really disrespectful for a person who has done something remarkable for all of us……..especially when there is no such proof out there against him……..It sounds like there was a manual available “how you can make atom bomb” in FDO lab. where he used to work prior to joining Pakistan’s own atomic program and he just picked and fled to Pakistan………technically speaking, scientifically its impossible to create something from scratch just by having drawings on paper, having no technical assistance, expertise, equipment and only one man did all this………A. Q. Khan is just a metallurgist……….if the stolen theory is true, still no one can deny the indigenous genuine in-house efforts in the program………!!!!!

 

[SMC]

This guy has some points but goes over the top. For instance, correct me if I am wrong, but I don't believe muslims meddled and intervened in other states and nations anywhere near as much as how much western states do. And that's what muslims normally blame US for - intervention in their countries and meddling in their affairs. And they are not wrong.

 

[Hammy007]

How many times will Hasan Nisar on 50 minutes be posted on this forum?

The only thing gained out of these exercises is that people start calling him a "traitor", "agent" and a "kafir" for nobody can be convinced by a 9 minute video if they've been taught since their childhood about the greatness of "Muslim" empires. It takes years of study to form an opinion of your own about history, something most people are unwilling to do.

a "kafir"??? and how is that???

 

[Durran3]

This guy has some points but goes over the top. For instance, correct me if I am wrong, but I don't believe muslims meddled and intervened in other states and nations anywhere near as much as how much western states do. And that's what muslims normally blame US for - intervention in their countries and meddling in their affairs. And they are not wrong.

That's because Muslim nations can barely sustain their own governments and people to be able to go around meddling in other country's affairs...

Only strong superpowers have the ability to do that. You have to be politically, militarily and economically powerful to be able to go into other countries and change their infrastructure for the better or worse...... and have a sense of adventure to learn while your at it and that's something Britain was excellent at.

Any country which has resources and money to expand its borders WILL expand it's border. It's how civilization works and has been working for Aeons. Don't blame the west for being a bit adventurous just because Muslim countries cant.

 

[SMC]

So basically according to you if that's how its been historically that's how it should be today. You know there are several things that were in a certain way for history and I bet you wouldn't be OK with how those were historically.

So according to you, west is OK to intervene and be "adventerous" in other nations if they want to because they're powerful. By the same token, we can justify doing what you'd call terrorism in western states too if we have the capability, because essentially one thing that west has done is kill people to further their goals, and you're saying that if they're powerful enough to do it they should do it, so the same goes for us.