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On April 13, local media cited Malaysian officials as saying that around 70 army personnel were found to have been involved with the Islamic State in Iraq and Syria (ISIS) militant group.

The reports were based on comments by Deputy Defense Minister Abdul Rahim Bakri, who told the country’s parliament that the figure had been confirmed with the police. Bakri, who was responding to a question by a lawmaker who asked how the ministry was ensuring soldiers did not join ISIS, did not provide any further specifics on the extent of this alleged involvement.

“The army is monitoring the situation via its investigation and intelligence division, together with its human resources section,” Bakri said according to The Straits Times.

“If army personnel are found to embrace elements of ISIS, the army and police will cooperate in our efforts to counsel them and restore their faith in accordance with proper teachings,” he added.

Bakri also reportedly said in response to an earlier question that recruits go through a stringent selection process, including checks on their criminal record, to ensure that false identification issues do not arise.

Anxieties about Malaysian armed forces personnel joining ISIS come amid government concerns about the group’s growing threat to the country’s national security. As The Diplomat reported previously, earlier this month Malaysian authorities detained 17 suspected militants for plotting to carry out terrorist attacks in the nation’s capital. Malaysian police chief Khalid Abu Bakar said the militants were part of a terror cell inspired by ISIS to create a similar regime in Malaysia, and civil servants and a security officer were reportedly part of the group.

The Malaysian government has been intensifying its crackdown on ISIS, with the country arresting dozens of people believed to be ISIS supporters – ranging from navy and air force personnel to university students – and recently passing a new anti-terror law. But as I have written earlier, the government’s approach has also sparked rights concerns among critics, who worry that the rising ISIS threat could be used to justify expanded powers for security forces who can then crack down on other political opponents as well. Some have pointed out that the Prevention of Terrorism Act (POTA) bears similarities to the Internal Security Act, which Prime Minister Najib Razak revoked in 2012 and had been previously used to detain critics including former deputy prime minister and opposition leader Anwar Ibrahim.

Has Islamic State Infiltrated Malaysia’s Military? | The Diplomat
 
On April 13, local media cited Malaysian officials as saying that around 70 army personnel were found to have been involved with the Islamic State in Iraq and Syria (ISIS) militant group.

The reports were based on comments by Deputy Defense Minister Abdul Rahim Bakri, who told the country’s parliament that the figure had been confirmed with the police. Bakri, who was responding to a question by a lawmaker who asked how the ministry was ensuring soldiers did not join ISIS, did not provide any further specifics on the extent of this alleged involvement.

“The army is monitoring the situation via its investigation and intelligence division, together with its human resources section,” Bakri said according to The Straits Times.

“If army personnel are found to embrace elements of ISIS, the army and police will cooperate in our efforts to counsel them and restore their faith in accordance with proper teachings,” he added.

Bakri also reportedly said in response to an earlier question that recruits go through a stringent selection process, including checks on their criminal record, to ensure that false identification issues do not arise.

Anxieties about Malaysian armed forces personnel joining ISIS come amid government concerns about the group’s growing threat to the country’s national security. As The Diplomat reported previously, earlier this month Malaysian authorities detained 17 suspected militants for plotting to carry out terrorist attacks in the nation’s capital. Malaysian police chief Khalid Abu Bakar said the militants were part of a terror cell inspired by ISIS to create a similar regime in Malaysia, and civil servants and a security officer were reportedly part of the group.

The Malaysian government has been intensifying its crackdown on ISIS, with the country arresting dozens of people believed to be ISIS supporters – ranging from navy and air force personnel to university students – and recently passing a new anti-terror law. But as I have written earlier, the government’s approach has also sparked rights concerns among critics, who worry that the rising ISIS threat could be used to justify expanded powers for security forces who can then crack down on other political opponents as well. Some have pointed out that the Prevention of Terrorism Act (POTA) bears similarities to the Internal Security Act, which Prime Minister Najib Razak revoked in 2012 and had been previously used to detain critics including former deputy prime minister and opposition leader Anwar Ibrahim.

Has Islamic State Infiltrated Malaysia’s Military? | The Diplomat
Well this is dangerous
 
All Sunni states are trying to poison their citizen mind hoping they are able to win other civilization by being a mad man and by being backward.

Malaysia core race is Sunni, no doubt they will get a lot of ISIS fan, or their elites even planted ISIS into their own institution.

Islam is not necessary a backward religion. Mad fanaticism is absence in Shia Iran though she is ruled by a theocracy. Iran client Hezbollah are respectable resistance. In Iran university 60% are women and Iran cabinet has the highest USA PHD in the whole world.

Problem is Sunni. Reason being Sunni are run by corrupt and stupid elites and once their citizen become clever, these elites need go fcuk themselves. To divert the people attention, Sunni elites deliberately make their people crazy and keep telling them they are victims of everyone under the sun, despite Sunni are the biggest bully of minorities.
Shia Iran was the same at the beginning of the revolution but now the situation has improved. And you're right. The problem today is Sunni Islam. They have backed these groups to keep people busy with something but now those groups have come back to bite the leaders that fed them. You can't expect much from a country like Malaysia that actively support racial apartheid and religious discrimination. Entire Southeast Asia has to keep an eye on them. They have now become the cancer cell of the region.
 
Shia Iran was the same at the beginning of the revolution but now the situation has improved. And you're right. The problem today is Sunni Islam. They have backed these groups to keep people busy with something but now those groups have come back to bite the leaders that fed them. You can't expect much from a country like Malaysia that actively support racial apartheid and religious discrimination. Entire Southeast Asia has to keep an eye on them. They have now become the cancer cell of the region.

The situation doesn't look good. Not sure if Southeast Asia is willing (or has the capability at all) to unite and sort this out if things get out of control. If they can't, then I'm not sure if China is willing to intervene. If China is not willing to intervene, then I'm not sure if Malaysia would allow the US to intervene. If the US intervenes, I not sure if that will solve the situation or radicalize even more Malaysians.
 
All Sunni states are trying to poison their citizen mind hoping they are able to win other civilization by being a mad man and by being backward.

Malaysia core race is Sunni, no doubt they will get a lot of ISIS fan, or their elites even planted ISIS into their own institution.

Islam is not necessary a backward religion. Mad fanaticism is absence in Shia Iran though she is ruled by a theocracy. Iran client Hezbollah are respectable resistance. In Iran university 60% are women and Iran cabinet has the highest USA PHD in the whole world.

Problem is Sunni. Reason being Sunni are run by corrupt and stupid elites and once their citizen become clever, these elites need go fcuk themselves. To divert the people attention, Sunni elites deliberately make their people crazy and keep telling them they are victims of everyone under the sun, despite Sunni are the biggest bully of minorities.
I think it's more a problem with Arabs nomadic culture mixed with Islam extremist.

Persians on the other hand are cultured people.
 
I am quite sympathetic to Sunni states. All states kill a lot of people during their transition towards modernization. The white man gone through 30 years war, ww1, ww2.

PRC gone through Taiping war, China civil war, great leap forward (30 million died).

I would urge many people to be a bit patient with Sunni.

Sunni Arabs now is in a phase of building a unitary state, which is a messy business. They use ISIS. Now many people died, but if Saudi can gain a unified Northern levant, then and extend unity to North Africa Sunni land, then this current Saudi generation will be remembered as great people.
 
Shia Iran was the same at the beginning of the revolution but now the situation has improved. And you're right. The problem today is Sunni Islam. They have backed these groups to keep people busy with something but now those groups have come back to bite the leaders that fed them. You can't expect much from a country like Malaysia that actively support racial apartheid and religious discrimination. Entire Southeast Asia has to keep an eye on them. They have now become the cancer cell of the region.
both you @Lux de Veritas are wrong
problem is not with Islam or more specifically Sunni Islam,

problem is with Arab monarchies who are merciless to their own people and rule with fear and due to the oil wealth they have means to spread their relgio- political influence across the globe beyond their region.

Theocratic Iran of today is no shinning example either its Mullahs have also eliminated countless number of dissidents and political opponents and is only second to wahabi brand of international terrorism.

I agree that ISIS, LeJ, Taliban, Al Qaeda and Boko Haram will find more willing participants in the Sunni population rather than a shia one but because of misleading and wrong perceptions. because the potential participants wrongly think they are doing Gods work and by the time they are deep into it there is no way to return. either to get beheaded by fellow members for trying to abandon them or get killed by drones or opposing paramilitaries.

Humanity is the victim of this form of terrorism and intolerant extremism and the biggest group of victims are the Sunni themselves.

we must put the blame where it is due, its not the faith but the fascist states and the brutal families that are using their money and influence to fan the sectarian and religious war on the world

AVOID ANY GENERALISATION right now.
 
There was even an attempt by a US Soldier.

US soldier arrested over 'plotting to support IS' - BBC News

Sunni Arabs now is in a phase of building a unitary state, which is a messy business. They use ISIS. Now many people died, but if Saudi can gain a unified Northern levant, then and extend unity to North Africa Sunni land, then this current Saudi generation will be remembered as great people.

Add to the fact that Middle Eastern borders are just 'Lines drawn in the sand". While you have outward pressure towards the borders with developed matured nations with common culture. The pressure is inward with Middle Eastern, African Nations, along with Central Asian Republics and S. Asia (Pakistan/Afghanistan/ Bangladesh). These states are unnatural. They haven't the slightest common denominator where they'll be willing to look at themselves as equals.

With so much pressure and desire to maintain the family property you have to provide free food (Kuwait/ SA/ Bahrain/ Qatar), expensive subsidies (SA/UAE/ Qatar/ Bahrain/ Kuwait/ Iraq/ Jordan/Syria), no taxes(et al), free medical, and free education and studies abroad.
 
Strong state is extremely important in keeping unity among Muslim. The problem of religion, it is open to interpretation. In Malaysia there is Al-Arqam, Mamali Incident, and Ayah Pin. All was suppress by the government. With many opting to do religious study in the middle east, who knows what new ideas they might back.
 
There was even an attempt by a US Soldier.

US soldier arrested over 'plotting to support IS' - BBC News



Add to the fact that Middle Eastern borders are just 'Lines drawn in the sand". While you have outward pressure towards the borders with developed matured nations with common culture. The pressure is inward with Middle Eastern, African Nations, along with Central Asian Republics and S. Asia (Pakistan/Afghanistan/ Bangladesh). These states are unnatural. They haven't the slightest common denominator where they'll be willing to look at themselves as equals.

With so much pressure and desire to maintain the family property you have to provide free food (Kuwait/ SA/ Bahrain/ Qatar), expensive subsidies (SA/UAE/ Qatar/ Bahrain/ Kuwait/ Iraq/ Jordan/Syria), no taxes(et al), free medical, and free education and studies abroad.

There are reason why Sunni want to kiss Islamofascism. Malay have inferiority complex. They need Islamofascism to give them confident against Chinese. No quick and sure fire solution to feel good against Chinese than acquiring a mentality so what if Chinese are rich, but we Malay are beholden in the eyes of Allah, while Chinese are all sinners that Allah hate.

For Pakistan, Islamofascism is use to glue the country. Jinnah is 100% secularist and he do not want a Islamic state. But Pakistan slogan for partition is Islam and having a explosive centrifugal force of multi racial country, Islamofascism is the only glue.

For Gulf state, it is to cover corrupt Sheikh.
 
Shia Iran was the same at the beginning of the revolution but now the situation has improved. And you're right. The problem today is Sunni Islam. .

I hate when people turn a complex socio-political situation into simple 5th grade elementary school boy logic.

Ammi Ammi wo mojha marta hai
kyon kay main shia hoon (or Sunni hoon).

(Mommy Mommy, I want to slap that boy's butt because he is Shia (or he is sunni)

What a load of bull. really!

Oh bhai sahiib some countries lack institutions flexible enough to transform and adjust with the needs of changing times.

due that lack of flexibility, they break down, and allow small anarchist groups to flourish. The same thing is propellant in non-Muslim African societies too. There are militias like Lords Army responsible for horrendous crimes. Let's blame that militia instead of blaming Catholics vs. Presbyterians vs. evangelicals.

So I urge you to quit throwing around blames along the lines of Shia vs. Sunni and I also urge to stop ravaging the banana cart.

Sorry to see.

There are reason why Sunni want to kiss Islamofascism. Malay have inferiority complex. They need Islamofascism to give them confident against Chinese. No quick and sure fire solution to feel good against Chinese than acquiring a mentality so what if Chinese are rich, but we Malay are beholden in the eyes of Allah, while Chinese are all sinners that Allah hate.

For Pakistan, Islamofascism is use to glue the country. Jinnah is 100% secularist and he do not want a Islamic state. But Pakistan slogan for partition is Islam and having a explosive centrifugal force of multi racial country, Islamofascism is the only glue.

For Gulf state, it is to cover corrupt Sheikh.

your analysis Malay is correct.

But you are way off on comments about the glue in Pakistan. What kind of glue it could be that has resulted in 50,000 deaths at the hands of Islamo-fascist Mullahs.

Please stick to the area you know.

....Pakistan/Afghanistan/ Bangladesh). These states are unnatural. They haven't the slightest common denominator ....
No state is not natural if you go beyond skin deep analysis.
 
Strong state is extremely important in keeping unity among Muslim. The problem of religion, it is open to interpretation. In Malaysia there is Al-Arqam, Mamali Incident, and Ayah Pin. All was suppress by the government. With many opting to do religious study in the middle east, who knows what new ideas they might back.

That's why in Indonesia we made Department of Religion, to made those interpretation always be kept on check and in line with State direction
 
Malaysia itself is not an ideal one to set up an Islamic state there since Muslim Malay only has 60 percent population, so as a country it is more like half Muslim with the other half is non-Muslim. Thats why some terrorist tried to go to Indonesia ( in which Muslim has almost 90 % majority ( 88 %) ) to fight for their dream since it is an ideal country to fulfill their ambition. And since ISIS has offered another such ideal dream in Middle East, so some of them are rush to go there, even the military personnel join them as the news said.

In the other hand, Indonesia of course also become another supplier of Jihadist, but many of them I believe join other opposition group instead of joining ISIS ( there are about 100 Indonesian joining ISIS based on Police estimate).

Talking about Jihadist in general. Actually, there is nothing wrong with fighting Bashar Al-Assad though who often use barrel bomb to civilian population like what is currently happening in Aleppo. Thats why even there was no attempt to limit Indonesian jihadist by the Indonesian police and military before ISIS become so famous like Today. It is actually a moral obligation for the Muslim to fight against the injustice and oppressor in an appropriate context ( Syrian context is justified I believed)

The solution is only by bridging the leaders in Iran and in Arab world (including Turkey) to solve Syria situation, and Today the problems become more problematic as Houtis in Yaman left the peace deal agreement and occupy the city that in return pressure Saudi to respond.
 
That's why in Indonesia we made Department of Religion, to made those interpretation always be kept on check and in line with State direction
Its getting difficult these days with new social media.
 
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