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Has India become a Chinese colony, seems likely

A lot of ruling BJP leaders have business relationships with China and that will only grow in the future. It is to note that Congress was a real stooge of the west which always wanted to undermine China instead of making any real economic progress in India. Congress championed laughing stocks like 'Hindustan Ambassador' car and Arjun MBT. Many Congress leaders served the Soviets including Indira and Co. Even then the Soviets duped Indira Gandhi which led to 'Operation Blue Star' in Amritsar in 1984.
China is good for India as an wake up call . We will even see that BJP joining Chinese BRI at some stage while milking the west at the same time.

India desires good relations with China, but it will never happen due to the Nature of Chinese policy and internal politics that drive it.

Its very similar to Indo pak relationship. Everyone desires good relations, but it will never happen due to the fundamental differences in the structure of govt. and hence policies.

China primarily operate by Bribe or Bullying and neither will work with BJP Govt.. BOTH will work with CONgress govt.
He is dismantling the license permit quota raj of Congress. The ecosystem and way of life Congress used for 65 years has steeped deep in India. It will take time to remove it.

IBC, GST, Mines reform, farm reform, labour reform. Much has been done, much remains. I think it will take the remainder of this term to complete the structural reforms which will bear fruit in time.

I agree.

But he is doing too little to change the economic destiny of India in any dramatic fashion.
 
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I agree.

But he is doing too little to change the economic destiny of India in any dramatic fashion.
You won't find me disagreeing. I thought the same way however the current protests over farm laws have made me more aware of a reality of India - the status quo bred by Congress is so deep that any dramatic or even fast actions to change it will lead to blowback. This may jeopardize or derail the whole process.

Farm laws, labour laws and privatization - all will lead to a focused fight back from the beneficiaries of the current system. An attempt to ramrod changes in a dramatic fashion will only lead to failure and further entrenchment of the current system.
 
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You won't find me disagreeing. I thought the same way however the current protests over farm laws have made me more aware of a reality of India - the status quo bred by Congress is so deep that any dramatic or even fast actions to change it will lead to blowback. This may jeopardize or derail the whole process.

Farm laws, labour laws and privatization - all will lead to a focused fight back from the beneficiaries of the current system. An attempt to ramrod changes in a dramatic fashion will only lead to failure and further entrenchment of the current system.

I am glad someone gets it.

Economic colonization is the price we pay for this much celebrated "dissent".

Same jokers who cheer CAA protest, Farm Law protest and Copper plant protest now sit and wonder why we are an Economic colony of China.

They are so clueless and so lost in their own hubris that they refuse to see what is right in front of them. All they can do is make glib arguments in pdf passing moral judgment on Modi, patting themselves in the back for their "insight".
 
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So the whole Ladak episode was to force India to be more dependent of Chinese import and China achieved its goal.
 
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A lot of ruling BJP leaders have business relationships with China and that will only grow in the future. It is to note that Congress was a real stooge of the west which always wanted to undermine China instead of making any real economic progress in India. Congress championed laughing stocks like 'Hindustan Ambassador' car and Arjun MBT. Many Congress leaders served the Soviets including Indira and Co. Even then the Soviets duped Indira Gandhi which led to 'Operation Blue Star' in Amritsar in 1984.
China is good for India as an wake up call . We will even see that BJP joining Chinese BRI at some stage while milking the west at the same time.
Your post is all over the place.
You know little facts and are mixing them with lots of imagination.

India's foreign policy has been by and large same irrespective of party in power. Neither Congress nor BJP was or is stooge of any country. How are you saying that Soviets duped Mrs. Gandhi. How are they responsible for Operation Blue Star?

India will never join BRI as CPEC (which is BRI's flagship project) passes through GB which India claims.
You won't find me disagreeing. I thought the same way however the current protests over farm laws have made me more aware of a reality of India - the status quo bred by Congress is so deep that any dramatic or even fast actions to change it will lead to blowback. This may jeopardize or derail the whole process.

Farm laws, labour laws and privatization - all will lead to a focused fight back from the beneficiaries of the current system. An attempt to ramrod changes in a dramatic fashion will only lead to failure and further entrenchment of the current system.
The fiasco with farm laws started when BJP passed it without allowing proper discussion in parliament. These laws are not bad and were supported by Congress as well earlier. Any opposition party opposes govt laws irrespective of their own stance earlier. Eg. BJP opposed nuclear deal with US when in opposition.
BJP should try to reintroduce farm laws after some time. This time they should have proper debate in parliament about them. Once passed after due consideration, opposition will not have a proper platform to oppose this law.
 
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Your post is all over the place.
You know little facts and are mixing them with lots of imagination.

India's foreign policy has been by and large same irrespective of party in power. Neither Congress nor BJP was or is stooge of any country. How are you saying that Soviets duped Mrs. Gandhi. How are they responsible for Operation Blue Star?

India will never join BRI as CPEC (which is BRI's flagship project) passes through GB which India claims.

The fiasco with farm laws started when BJP passed it without allowing proper discussion in parliament. These laws are not bad and were supported by Congress as well earlier. Any opposition party opposes govt laws irrespective of their own stance earlier. Eg. BJP opposed nuclear deal with US when in opposition.
BJP should try to reintroduce farm laws after some time. This time they should have proper debate in parliament about them. Once passed after due consideration, opposition will not have a proper platform to oppose this law.

Of course Soviets duped Indira Gandhi.

The Russian agency declared India as "the model of KGB infiltration of a Third World government"

Google "Mitrokhin Archive" .
 
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That is pure BS. Modi's claim to fame was Godhra and All of India who voted for him knew that.
In short, India wanted a man who would do what needed to be done. PERIOD.
Majority of Indians voted for Modi in 2014 because he showcased his economic model of Gujarat and compared that with economic stagnation of UPA-II
Had Godhra been the key factor, BJP would have made him PM candidate in 2009 and BJP would have won.

Modi is not going to lose any vote
I did not say Modi is going to lose elections. BJP has mastered the art of winning elections. Moreover the opposition is weak and fractured with no hope of revival in medium term. So Modi will win as there is no better alternative.
Of course Soviets duped Indira Gandhi.

The Russian agency declared India as "the model of KGB infiltration of a Third World government"

Google "Mitrokhin Archive" .
In what sense did they dupe? Be specific.
 
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Majority of Indians voted for Modi in 2014 because he showcased his economic model of Gujarat and compared that with economic stagnation of UPA-II
Had Godhra been the key factor, BJP would have made him PM candidate in 2009 and BJP would have won.

In 2009 Advani and Vajpayee still had hopes and ambition of winning the majority seats. If they had promoted Modi, they would have won.

Vajpayee's supposed betrayal of Modi is what lost him the respectt of Hindus. Same as Advani's praise of Jinnah.

Both tried to turn "secular" and became Dobhi ka kutta. Na Ghar ka naa ghat ka.

Unlike them Modi was UNAPOLOGETIC about his beliefs and Actions. And THAT is who India wanted. A man of conviction, who had the courage to stand by his conviction.

I did not say Modi is going to lose elections. BJP has mastered the art of winning elections. Moreover the opposition is weak and fractured with no hope of revival in medium term. So Modi will win as there is no better alternative.

BJP without Modi / Amit shah will turn into another CONgress.

and yes TINA is a reality too.
 
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If Italian pariwar would have continued we would have required a passport n visa to visit Arunachal pardesh.
 
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That's just natural calling ,the east asia with china as the figure head will rise to the pinnacle of economy,influence and human civilization ,of course it's natural that india follow suit for her own benefit.
Even the west realizes they can't compete with China but iNDIA that views the world from their colonial master's lens,doesn't know anything about China's inherent august as a nation. India which can't even compete with tiny vietnam made graves mistake by strategically placing itself against China ,as a strategic competitor out of seer arrogance all while being a neighbor of China.
India gained prolifically in the past decade through chinese investment,top 10 of Indian unicorns are all financed and taught by chinese investors. Next decade will be a hellish ride for India ,after discarding what has been most net positive interaction in trade and commerce in the history of the nation.

I agree. Modi deeply miscalculated. Because he was completely ignorant in his assessment of capabilities.
 
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In 2009 Advani and Vajpayee still had hopes and ambition of winning the majority seats. If they had promoted Modi, they would have won.
Vajpayee had already retired by that time. Modi did not present his candidature. Advani was the sole candidate in 2009 from BJP. Cant say for sure if BJP would have won with Modi in 2009.
UPA-1 saw good economic progress. MMS had a good image till then.
UPA-2 saw economic stagnation, plus several corruption scandals, plus Anna Hazare / AAP movement. Moreover, Congress was vague about PM candidate in 2014 (they wanted Rahul Gandhi to be PM). All these factors helped Modi win in 2014.

Vajpayee's supposed betrayal of Modi is what lost him the respectt of Hindus. Same as Advani's praise of Jinnah.
Modi was not a big factor in 2004. People outside Gujarat hardly knew him then. Advani's praise of Jinnah may have dented his chances somewhat.

Both tried to turn "secular" and became Dobhi ka kutta.
Vajpayee's moderate image got BJP so many allies in NDA. He was only guilty of overconfidence in 2004.

BJP without Modi / Amit shah will turn into another CONgress.
You are saying as if BJP was similar to Congress before the advent of Modi. NO.
The prime difference between BJP and Congress is meritocracy vs dynasty. Top leaders in BJP are never chosen due to belonging to a particular family.

and yes TINA is a reality too.
Thats the most important factor right now.
 
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In what sense did they dupe? Be specific.

Learn to use google instead of asking me to Educate you..


The KGB ties of Indira Gandhi: How India became a puppet of USSR during the Cold War

Mitrokhin reveals that Indira Gandhi was given 20 million rupees in exchange for crucial information, and to the surprise of Soviet chiefs, didn't even return the bag in which she received the money

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After the Second World War that saw the Allied powers winning a trouncing victory against the Axis, ideological differences began to emerge between the USSR and USA. While the Soviets pushed Communism and Socialism in countries, the US spread democracy and capitalism through proxy civil wars in various countries.

The end of World War II led to the sun finally setting on the British Empire, with countries such as India gaining independence from the British Raj and many other colonies also being freed. The end of the Second World War also witnessed the grand era of espionage led by CIA and KGB; espionage agencies of the two powers.

Vasili Mitrokhin, a KGB spy who later defected to the United Kingdom, revealed many secret documents and information to the world through his archives called ‘Mitrokhin Archive’. In the archives, there are several chapters dedicated to India and the Gandhi family.

After India gained independence in 1947, attention of the two espionage agencies diverted to India. Both the countries wanted to gain indirect control of the country, since it would give them control over a potential regional power. In the chapter ‘The Special Relationship With India’ (Part 1: The Supremacy of the Indian National Congress), Mitrokhin reveals that Joseph Stalin had a rather poor opinion of Jawaharlal Nehru, the first Prime Minister of India.

According to the archives, Stalin regarded Nehru and Mahatma Gandhi as “imperialist puppets” who bowed before the British and betrayed their people, helping the British tighten their hold over India. Despite his harsh words for the PM, Nehru often praised the Communist revolution of Soviet Russia and took inspiration from it.

After becoming Prime Minister, Nehru paid a diplomatic visit to the USSR, where each incident was ‘carefully staged’. According to Mitrokhin, the Soviets were eyeing India as a ‘playground’ for CIA and KGB agents. After Indira Gandhi (given the codename ‘Vano’ by Mitrokhin) became Prime Minister, the KGB managed to infiltrate deeper into the Indian government.

Mitrokhin reveals that Indira Gandhi was given 20 million rupees in exchange for crucial information, and to the surprise of Soviet chiefs, didn’t even return the bag in which she received the money. Like Nehru, Indira Gandhi too was made to believe that the Communist revolution of Russia was a ‘beaming light’ for the world, and often praised the ‘revolutionary’ principles followed in Soviet factories which were carefully staged during her visits.

The concerns arise when Mitrokhin claims that 7 cabinet ministers from the Congress party were elected due to Soviet funding during the regime of Indira Gandhi, while the defense minister during Nehru’s tenure (V. Krishna Menon) was also given Soviet backing. Mitrokhin Archives claim that due to Soviet backing and influence, former defense minister V. Krishna Menon purchased Soviet MiGs instead of British lightnings after his election campaign got funded by KGB in 1962 and 1967.

The archives also reveal the Soviet connections of the Communist Party of India. According to Mitrokhin, the CPI was funded in multiple ways by the Soviets; and had received funds in several bizarre ways including through car windows during Delhi traffic! At several instances, the Intelligence Bureau of India had intercepted transfer of funds to the Party treasury of CPI from USSR, to which Nehru chuckled saying that the Soviets had “underestimated” India’s intelligence.

However, he didn’t realise that the Soviets had penetrated deep into Indian embassies and were extracting information via their agents. As per Mitrokhin, many Indian diplomats abroad were seduced (and later blackmailed into revealing classified information) by female KGB agents called ‘sparrows’.

By 1972, the KGB had over 10 Indian newspapers under their payroll and had apparently planted over 3,500 articles in Indian newspapers.

The Archives of Mitrokhin also claim that in the 1977 elections, campaigns of 21 non-communist leaders were financed by the KGB. Under the Nehru-Gandhi regime, espionage wasn’t uncommon in India and the country had become a playground for foreign espionage agencies.

While countries like the UK and USA formed special committees to investigate the claims made by Mitrokhin, the UPA-1 government led by Congress party dismissed the claims and didn’t form any committee to investigate his claims. While the world looks at the archives as the most sensational counter-intelligence document, India did not perform a single enquiry into the archives.

The Congress party dismissed the claims without any investigation or enquiry. There is much to be revealed about the dark history of the Grand Old Party of India, and Mitrokhin’s archives show us the tip of the iceberg of the dirty history of India’s opposition party.



The current state of India with communist breeding ground of JNU, DU, Jadavpur University etc. is the DIRECT result of KGB and Soviet intervention. Today that poison has taken roots to sprout Naxal and Maoist "people's war' that recently killed 21 CRPF jawans.
 
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Vajpayee's moderate image got BJP so many allies in NDA. He was only guilty of overconfidence in 2004.

Difference is Modi does not need Alllies to win elections. Today Allies need him.


You are saying as if BJP was similar to Congress before the advent of Modi. NO.
The prime difference between BJP and Congress is meritocracy vs dynasty. Top leaders in BJP are never chosen due to belonging to a particular family.

BJP was a poorer version of the CONgress before Modi.

Which is why people rejected the poor version of Nehru, a.k.a. Vajpayee and voted for the real thing i.e CONgress. Someone accurately called it "CONgress + Cow"

Today CONgress is trying to be the poor version of BJP, THAT is the Modi Effect.

Before MOdi / Amit Shah, promoting dynastic rule was practiced in BJP too. That is how Vasundhara Raje Scindia became CM. THat is how Jayant Sinha became a minister.

Today Jayant is OUT so is his father. and Vasundhara has to earn her keep.
 
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Sadly its True.

Unless Indian Govt. takes some firm Solid steps to revive Manufacturing in India, this will continue to be the state of affair.

So far this has been the area of Major Failure for Modi and Co.
Modi are not to blame. Chinese are too superior from high end to mass production system. No other races can compete with Chinese.

Even martian or aliens will loses if try to compete with Chinese. :enjoy:
 
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