'Haryana's shameful social heritage'

[Masterchief]

khap panchayats are nothing less than Taliban.

 

[Nahraf]

khap panchayats are nothing less than Taliban.

What are "khap panchayats" ?

 

[Spring Onion]

Aren't you the same people who marry their cousins??? lol And you are talking about Indians!!!

Whats wrong in marrying cousins morally ?? There is no bar on marrying cousin.

The Haryana case is different. The community there kill couples who marry in the same gotra means if they even marry their cousins, they are either killed or separated on the pretext that they are like brother and sister according to Indian gotra system. But at the same time incest practice of having relations with close relatives like daughters, daughter-in-laws and so on is going on within this community in Haryana.

This is where this theory of gotra goes wrong and calls for changing this altogether for humanity.

 

[Kinetic]

Whats wrong in marrying cousins morally ?? There is no bar on marrying cousin.

The Haryana case is different. The community there kill couples who marry in the same gotra means if they even marry their cousins, they are either killed or separated on the pretext that they are like brother and sister according to Indian gotra system. But at the same time incest practice of having relations with close relatives like daughters, daughter-in-laws and so on is going on within this community in Haryana.

This is where this theory of gotra goes wrong and calls for changing this altogether for humanity.

Marrying cousins is called the incest. If that is not a social crime than what is it??? How can someone marry her/his uncle's son/daughter?

I am not supporting the Haryana thing, but people see the cousin as their sister/brother, so marrying them is also very dangerous.

 

[Spring Onion]

Marrying cousins is called the incest. If that is not a social crime than what is it??? How can someone marry her/his uncle's son/daughter?

I am not supporting the Haryana thing, but people see the cousin as their sister/brother, so marrying them is also very dangerous.

This is theory believed by Haryana type communities in India whereas in other parts or to say thousands of others people there do not believe in it. Even if we take this cousins marriages as incest according to Khap community's believes then the breach of the same is being discussed by this report that this community has immoral practice within so it has no right to kill, punish couples on pretext of marrying in same gotra.

Incest is either to have physical relations with close relatives like sister, brother, father, daughter, mother, aunt etc not cousins.

 

[Nahraf]

......but people see the cousin as their sister/brother, so marrying them is also very dangerous.

Marrying first cousins is not considered incest in Pakistan. Although medically it raises problems of consanguinity and recessive genes. The following article is from "Secular Haryana" which also devotes much space on issue of "cousin marriages".

http://secularharyana.com/2010/05/07/exagerated-fear-on-first-cousin-marriage/

Some people are fixated on the fallacy that cousin couples pose an intolerable risk to their offspring. However it is likely that we are all descendants of cousin marriages. Before civil laws banning cousin marriages, it was preferable to marry a cousin in some communities as it is to this day in many countries. The notion “why marry a stranger” is just as prevalent in many countries as the cousin marriage taboo in America today. There are a wide range of opinions on the subject of cousin marriages. This is fuelled by erroneous information, bigotry, and presumptions. Further we have civil laws and religious creeds based on obsolete information.

The facts about cousin marriages are much clearer.

Fears of cousins who marry having children with birth defects are exaggerated. Simply marrying within your own race increases the odds of birth defects. Marrying within your own town further increases your chances. Cousin couples have only a slightly higher incidence of birth defects than non-related couples.

26 states allow first cousin marriages; most people can marry their cousin in the US.
US prohibitions against cousin marriages predate modern genetics.
No European country prohibits marriage between first cousins. It is also legal throughout Canada and Mexico to marry your cousin. The U.S. is the only western country with cousin marriage restrictions.

Children of non-related couples have a 2-3% risk of birth defects, as opposed to first cousins having a 4-6% risk. Genetic counseling is available for those couples that may be at a special risk for birth defects (e.g. You have a defect that runs in your family) In plain terms first cousins have at a 94 percent + chance of having healthy children. Check the links section for more information on genetic counselors. The National Society of Genetic Counselors estimated the increased risk for first cousins is between 1.7 to 2.8 percent, or about the same a any woman over 40 years of age.
Second cousins have little, if any increased chance of having children with birth defects, per the book “Clinical Genetics Handbook”

The frequency of cousin marriages in the USA is about 1 in 1,000. The frequency of cousin marriages in Japan is about 4 in 1,000
It is estimated that 20 percent of all couples worldwide are first cousins. It is also estimated that 80 percent of all marriages historically have been between first cousins!
In some cultures, the term cousin and mate are synonymous.
Albert Einstein married his first cousin. And so did Charles Darwin, who had exceptional children.

Franklin D. Roosevelt, the longest serving US president in history married his cousin (not a first cousin, however they shared the same last name).
Leviticus 18 lists all forbidden sexual relationships. Cousin relationships are not included.
God commanded many cousins to marry, including Zelophehad’s 5 daughters, Eleazar’s daughters, Jacob (who married both Rachel and Leah, first cousins), and Isaac and Rebekkah (first cousins once removed)

It is likely that Joseph and Mary — Christ’s earthly parents were first cousins.
Current studies indicate that cousin couples have a lower ratio of miscarriages — perhaps because body chemistry of cousins is more similar. The verdict is still out.
We are all cousins. No two people are more distantly related than 50th cousins.

 

[genmirajborgza786]

I have first count acknowledgment from a Sardar. He has been living in the state for more than 3 years yet he was happy with news of new born son. When we asked him, how the hell his wife got pregnant since he did not go to India for more than 3 years.
His answer was:
Bhai hai na kam chalane ke liye.

sick post & = post reported !

 

[TURK-SAT]

This practice is usually about material things do not make the wedding ceremony to receive her aunt's family escaped from the costs of the event they are frequent turkey .. injury occurs as a result of child birth is a dangerous situation.

 

[Bhim]

Guys ****, Incest, pedophilia and all such vices are every where and in all countries.
I think they should be condemned each and every where.
But a quick thought came to my mind, has any one cared to read all those articles where men have been raped by women?

Well this is hunger can only be controlled by strict law, education has no role in this.One can be uneducated but very moral and vice versa can be true.