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Happy Birthday Jinnah 2013

I agree with that. But would they be able to change their faith and carry on as successful business people because of their personal reasons and opinions as individuals with the right to do what they think is better for them? What would the Blasphemy Laws do to them?

Yes if they keep their religious matters personal they would remain safe. But why are we discussing non matter? "IF" they live...but they didn't live in Pakistan so don't need to worry.
 
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Yes if they keep their religious matters personal they would remain safe. But why are we discussing non matter? "IF" they live...but they didn't live in Pakistan so don't need to worry.

What Pakistan was supposed to be by its Founder, and what we have made of it in reality, is not a "non matter" but a moment of deep thought and reflection for all of us on his birthday.
 
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"How ironic that Quaid's grandchildren are successful business people in Bombay, not in Pakistan, and openly converted to other religions. Would either be possible in the country that he so proudly created? Why not? That is is the real though-provoking part."


You cannot conflate the idea of today's Pakistan with that of what Mr.Jinnah aspired it to be.He was merely the architect and unfortunately for the country and its people, didn't stick around long enough to implement the idea. Those that followed had no ones benefit close to heart but their own. The feudal elite took over and proceeded to defecate all over the idea of a country where justice, equality and freedom of choice reigns supreme. Pakistan of today is a distortion of the country it could've been and it has a lot to do with how it was governed by inept leadership. And convert to Zoroastrianism? You are surely having a laugh because we're discussing the populace of a country where many call shias (kafir). Theres is no freedom of choice man, theres only danda, and as they say back home, jiski laathi (read danda), uski bhains.

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Happy Birthday Jinnah, the country could've used a couple of more years of you being around.
 
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What Pakistan was supposed to be by its Founder, and what we have made of it in reality, is not a "non matter" but a moment of deep thought and reflection for all of us on his birthday.

I agree but these times come on every nation. US pass through that face, Germany did & many others did. Education can solve this problem & i' am sure as the time pass tolerance will come.
 
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Happy Birthday! He was a good leader with courage to do things out of box!

It's sad that Pakistan is not following the vision set by you and very reason to have a separate nation.
O' great leader I wish if you could be more considerate we could have saved millions and in past and millions from daily suffering today!!
 
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Happy Birthday - Father ! :pakistan:

Forgive us for what we've done to Pakistan.

and may Allah give us the courage and wisdom to walk on the right path and undo our mistakes! Amen !

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@VCheng

"How ironic that Quaid's grandchildren are successful business people in Bombay, not in Pakistan, and openly converted to other religions. Would either be possible in the country that he so proudly created? Why not? That is is the real though-provoking part."


You cannot conflate the idea of today's Pakistan with that of what Mr.Jinnah aspired it to be.He was merely the architect and unfortunately for the country and its people, didn't stick around long enough to implement the idea. Those that followed had no ones benefit close to heart but their own. The feudal elite took over and proceeded to defecate all over the idea of a country where justice, equality and freedom of choice reigns supreme. Pakistan of today is a distortion of the country it could've been and it has a lot to do with how it was governed by inept leadership. And convert to Zoroastrianism? You are surely having a laugh because we're discussing the populace of a country where many call shias (kafir). Theres is no freedom of choice man, theres only danda, and as they say back home, jiski laathi (read danda), uski bhains.

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Happy Birthday Jinnah, the country could've used a couple of more years of you being around.

he himself denounced his daughter for abandoning Islam.
 
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What does that have to do with Jinnah? His daughter decided to stay in India.

Jinnah denounced his daughter because she left muslim faith. and she got married to a filthy rich parsi guy, not that she and her husband started from scratch and made an empire in india as "someone" ( @VCheng :sarcastic: ) is trying to preach here.
 
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Happy birthday to you Sir.
because of you, we are breathing in our own watan; Pakistan.
may Allah swt be pleased with you and grant you janat ul firdous. Amen.

Thank you leader for starting this thread, you took the lead. We all pray the same.
 
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Birthday wishes Jinnah sir, I m sure you would disagree with some of the members on the very forum who dis-resspect you and the very leaders you showed respect.

Happy Birthday great father, your sons are now grown up and have balls. :pakistan: :pakistan: :pakistan: :pakistan:
Have you grown big enough to say that the way you said it on his face?
 
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