Hamza Abbassi backtracks from statement in support of Ahmadis after causing uproar

[Zarvan]

Here you taking His Law on your hand to make a new law new religion which satisfied your personal religious ego.
If some recite Kakima Shahada and fully implement or try to strict on Five basic of Islam he is Muslim. Tell me a difference what's is the difference between an Ahmdi and a sarkari Muslim regarding with Kakima Shahada and basic pillar of Islam?

No no if the person is denying basic tenant of Iman and that is that HAZRAT MUHAMMAD SAW is last and final messenger of ALLAH than that person is not a Muslim. We are not making any new law we are just telling you the law of Islam which already exists.

 

[gutto786]

At the time when this law was being passed, Ahmadiyya fourth Khalifa asked bhutto:
- Why are you adding this condition that an Ahmadi cant be president?
- Bhutto replied: Why are you asking, do you want to be a president of Pakistan.
- At this Huzoor replied: No, and as a matter of fact no ahmadi is. We are a religious organization and we have no interest in becoming president but by doing this you are "Opening a hole for Mullah to enter the system and capture it like an octopus from which you might never be able to liberate yourself"

So go ahead guys, Hamza Abbasi or xyz abbasi.....Ahmadis dont give a dime about so called "ummah concensus" or constitutional amendment against them. Its a God's jamat and he alone is enough for us, our progress is a proof of it and right now: Pakistan is just another country where we happen to have our branch besides over 200+ other countries.

One other thing, Ahmadiyyat's future is not attached a bit to the repealing of this law from Pakistan's constitution.If we ever wish that these laws are repealed its only because that might give some breathing space to the suffocated society of Pakistan. So that the society might come out of the hole they are living in.

 

[Zarvan]

At the time when this law was being passed, Ahmadiyya fourth Khalifa asked bhutto:
- Why are you adding this condition that an Ahmadi cant be president?
- Bhutto replied: Why are you asking, do you want to be a president of Pakistan.
- At this Huzoor replied: No, and as a matter of fact no ahmadi is. We are a religious organization and we have no interest in becoming president but by doing this you are "Opening a hole for Mullah to enter the system and capture it like an octopus from which you might never be able to liberate yourself"

So go ahead guys, Hamza Abbasi or xyz abbasi.....Ahmadis dont give a dime about so called "ummah concensus" or constitutional amendment against them. Its a God's jamat and he alone is enough for us, our progress is a proof of it and right now: Pakistan is just another country where we happen to have our branch besides over 200+ other countries.

One other thing, Ahmadiyyat's future is not attached a bit to the repealing of this law from Pakistan's constitution.If we ever wish that these laws are repealed its only because that might give some breathing space to the suffocated society of Pakistan. So that the society might come out of the hole they are living in.

First GOD is enough for you is a good joke. If the fraud Mirza has followers their is nothing new about right after RASOOL SAW died even Musailma Kazan managed to get thousands of followers around him. Qadyanis are not Muslims and they would never be accepted as Muslims.

 

[Challanger]

I don't understand, why people get so much offensive when someone wants to talk about their basic rights. They are Non-Muslims but that does not mean me or anyone else got the right to discriminate them.

Islam is very strict towards minority rights. Its us who use this law for personal benefits against them. So, let them live their life. when our law declared them as Non-Muslims then there is no need of discrimination or debate.

 

[pak-marine]

Shia's are next line the anti shia parties / militias have huge support proof is the social media another signal is the mandate they got in 2013 elections. So probably by next decade or so there will be demad to additional clauses in the constitution declaring shias Kafir , there is some light on Barelvis + sufis they are next in line.

This bigotry now it has spread every where ! We are travelling back in times

 

[gutto786]

First GOD is enough for you is a good joke.

May be putting total trust on God is a Joke for you and your likes but for Ahmadis: "Only God is enough for them!!". The rest of your post doesn't merit my comment

 

[Pakistani E]

Hamza Abbassi should save himself from the wrath of the Mullahs. I pray that he remains safe from all the agents of Shaitan currently roaming unhindered in Pakistan but I advise him to not make too much noise. Mullahs and their bumchums have a hard time tolerating opinions different to their own.

Ahmadis will endure..

 

[Solomon2]

This bigotry now it has spread every where ! We are travelling back in times

Well, why aren't you doing something about it?

 

[pak-marine]

Well, why aren't you doing something about it?

Look harder those who did were / are either dead or had to run for their lives & take assylum. This cancer has spread all over unfortunatly

 

[Solomon2]

Look harder those who did were / are either dead or had to run for their lives & take assylum. This cancer has spread all over unfortunatly

Does something stop you from organizing, arming, and establishing strongholds and safe havens?

 

[pak-marine]

Does something stop you from organizing, arming, and establishing strongholds and safe havens?

There is a small emerging pakistani civil society who makes some noise , gather up like minded indivisuals , hold vigils against murders or other kinds of daily bigotries by mullahs & their extremist cronies . Very recently a very outspoken , well known member of the same society khuram zaki was shot dead by " unknown assailants " Dig a little deeper you will find names after names of deseased indivisuals who raised their voice against this sick, perverted & cancerious evil lying in our society.

As for Estabilishing armed resistence MQM (a political party ) did that but they are restricted to urban sindh only ! btw strong holds or safe heavens these are no realistic solution for a un armed un trained small no of liberals belonging to civil society , they are dead any way better not take 1000's more with them. The only viable option is create awareness by peaceful means rest is upto the majority of Pakistani if shit hits the fan ( i hope not) the majority might realise than ..

Having said that on a positive note there is some realization for eg the ruling PML. N was right wing they are now questioning & fighting Extremists of all forms in Punjab. So there is a little ray of hope , lets see with time we will know.

 

[Kambojaric]

Too late mate. Your show has already been banned. You dared say 'ahmedi' in a ramazan show. Thats a straight red card.

Next time try shoving mango's down the throats of your guests, or why not hand out actual living babies, like the great alim e deen maulana hazrat al amir ul liaqut

 

[war&peace]

Shia's are next line the anti shia parties / militias have huge support proof is the social media another signal is the mandate they got in 2013 elections. So probably by next decade or so there will be demad to additional clauses in the constitution declaring shias Kafir , there is some light on Barelvis + sufis they are next in line.

This bigotry now it has spread every where ! We are travelling back in times

No sir, it was limited to Qadiyanis since they were not Muslims by definition so the constitution only acknowledged it. Shias have been around since 1400 yrs and ulema never declared them non-Muslims as whole so your assuption is wrong.

 

[pak-marine]

No sir, it was limited to Qadiyanis since they were not Muslims by definition so the constitution only acknowledged it. Shias have been around since 1400 yrs and ulema never declared them non-Muslims as whole so your assuption is wrong.

Bhai sahab whilst many diaper Pakistanis are in denial about it however ground reality is very different , a little reaserch (simple searching) online on voting patterns in last elections (2013) and a glance over social media may give one a little insight , its just a matter of time !

 

[war&peace]

Bhai sahab whilst many diaper Pakistanis are in denial about it however ground reality is very different , a little reaserch (simple searching) online on voting patterns in last elections (2013) and a glance over social media may give one a little insight , its just a matter of time !

Would you be kind enough to elaborate your allusion to the voting pattern...since all I know is that it was a rigged election against PTI and in favor of PMLn.