HAL Tejas | Updates, News & Discussions-[Thread 2]

[Lord Of Gondor]

Some neat renders from Twitter user Kuntal Biswas:

Sincerely hope that "Winged Daggers" are resurrected with the Tejas Mark-1A, would be a fitting tribute, considering they were the first ones to be equipped with the Marut in 1967.

(Vic formation of 5 Marut jets Above Rajpath, 26 Jan 1969)

 

[Lord Of Gondor]

Program spearheaded by HAL's Aircraft Research and Design Center, they(HAL) last month got the clearance to equip the DARIN-III Jags with the EL/M 2052(54 sets), would make it easier as far as integration efforts go, in the Tejas.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1338025258373148674

Expect a scaled up Elta radar for the Tejas.

 

[Lord Of Gondor]

Tweet by the PM

https://twitter.com/x/status/1349399607630036992

Interesting is this for me:

The Cabinet has also approved infrastructure development by IAF under the project to enable them handle repairs or servicing at their base depot so that the turnaround time would get reduced for mission critical systems and would lead to increased availability of aircraft for operational exploitation. This would enable IAF to sustain the fleet more efficiently and effectively due to availability of repair infrastructure at respective bases.

That is over $160M just for infra support!

 

[The Maverick]

Can your Tejas compete with latest gen of F-16/F-15 equiped with AESA and other latest avionics, please give me my that question????

no it can't
but thank God it will never face this sort of,technology

tejas,mark1a is superior to everything in your air Force and a match for your block 52 f16cwhich we rate as your best fighter perhaps,even better than your block 3 thunders

even our mark1 tejas with the mechanical elta radar on paper beats your current block 1 and 2 thunders and your entire 200 fleet of mirages and f7.

I won't even talk about the Rafale effect as,a Force multipler

Can you produce your Tejas without any foreign help, (From Israel/France/USA) please tell us???

of course,it's manufactured in indian work shops there is not a foreign adviser anywhere. this is not a joint project with chengdu or dassult or Lockheed

 

[Yasser76]

no it can't
but thank God it will never face this sort of,technology

tejas,mark1a is superior to everything in your air Force and a match for your block 52 f16cwhich we rate as your best fighter perhaps,even better than your block 3 thunders

even our mark1 tejas with the mechanical elta radar on paper beats your current block 1 and 2 thunders and your entire 200 fleet of mirages and f7.

I won't even talk about the Rafale effect as,a Force multipler


of course,it's manufactured in indian work shops there is not a foreign adviser anywhere. this is not a joint project with chengdu or dassult or Lockheed

I know I know, the plane that is on the drawing board and not flown yet is better than our planes in squadron service.

You are comparing LCA that you will have soon with what PAF has now. Do you see the flaw in your logic here?

 

[White and Green with M/S]

no it can't
but thank God it will never face this sort of,technology

tejas,mark1a is superior to everything in your air Force and a match for your block 52 f16cwhich we rate as your best fighter perhaps,even better than your block 3 thunders

even our mark1 tejas with the mechanical elta radar on paper beats your current block 1 and 2 thunders and your entire 200 fleet of mirages and f7.

I won't even talk about the Rafale effect as,a Force multipler


of course,it's manufactured in indian work shops there is not a foreign adviser anywhere. this is not a joint project with chengdu or dassult or Lockheed

elta e;lm 2032 range is 150 km as per IAI similar to our older blocks equiped with APG-66 series of radars And our block-52 radar (APG-68v9) range is 400 km

And yes we have slightly lower radar (KLJ-7V2) 135 Km in our block-2 as compare to your ELTA ELM 2032 radar, and so our block-3 AESA has far greater range of that our block-52 F-16

 

[White and Green with M/S]

tejas,mark1a is superior to everything in your air Force and a match for your block 52 f16cwhich we rate as your best fighter perhaps,even better than your block 3 thunders

How you Uttam AESA will have a range of more than 400 km , there is no fighter jet radar that can detect more than 400 km because of line sight limitations (curvature of earth)

 

[Dash]

How you Uttam AESA will have a range of more than 400 km , there is no fighter jet radar that can detect more than 400 km because of line sight limitations (curvature of earth)

curvature of earth is for ground based radars not airborne

 

[ziaulislam]

Agreed, but we both know that this is impossible with regards to LCA. In future, perhaps, but right now Kavari has failed and if US withold those engines it will delay LCA by another few years as you source a new engine and integrate it. That is the fundamental weakness here. US can stop LCA in it's tracks (for the short term) should it ever decide, although I think it is unlikley.

You never know..lookheed martin might pull some strings

curvature of earth is for ground based radars not airborne

Exactly but also for fighters limited by 40,000ft hight

$6.5B(₹48000 Cr) deal for Tejas Mark-1A cleared by CCS!
(Only the signing formality awaits, maybe will be done during AI2021?)
Landmark deal in Indian Aerospace History.

This is just fly away cost of 81 fighters or does it include ground support equipment

 

[Yasser76]

curvature of earth is for ground based radars not airborne

So India has produced the most advanced and most powerful fighter AESA in the world, with no experiance that fits into the world's smallest fighter? Is that what you are now claiming?

 

[ziaulislam]

Your m
Tej@$$ is no where near that the class of MKI or MIG 29 these are world MAJOR and popular jets

It is more costly then MKI

270 MKI for 8b$
81 tejas for 6.5b

even adjusted for inflation the cost is still much higher almost twice

Even now MKI comes cheaper then tejas

 

[Yasser76]

It is more costly then MKI

270 MKI for 8b$
81 tejas for 6.5b

even adjusted for inflation the cost is still much higher almost twice

Even now MKI comes cheaper then tejas

Insanity, all this for a plane that needed 23 waivers just to be accepted. Let's see if MK1A even flies on time....

 

[Lord Of Gondor]

This is just fly away cost of 81 fighters or does it include ground support equipment

logically it would include everything from developmental costs to fleet sustenance,(and potentially even the Nasik Su-30 MKI line being re tooled) but I am sure we will see a detailed break up in the coming future.

 

[ziaulislam]

logically it would include everything from developmental costs to fleet sustenance,(and potentially even the Nasik Su-30 MKI line being re tooled) but I am sure we will see a detailed break up in the coming future.

Why would it
Doesnt make sense since mk1 had a 40 aircraft preorder?

 

[White and Green with M/S]

curvature of earth is for ground based radars not airborne

so give me one fighter jet radar i said FIGHTER JET radar range whos radar range is more than 400 km with limited power, i am not ttalking about awacs