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LOST IDENTITY: Hakeem Ullah Mahsud death and Operation is Bara

Intelligence sources after much analysis of recordings of alleged telephone calls of Hakeem Ullah Mahsud and Wali Ur Rehman Mahsud in which they declared the new top leadership of TTP to be Fake. Intelligence sources have confirmed that the person pretending to be Hakeem ullah Mahsud was not Hakeem ullah but his younger brother.

In my Past essay I wrote

I think that fog is ending and clear picture has started coming out. I agree with those analysts who think that Hakeem ullah is dead. And that there is break up in TTP. As far as Faqir Muhammad, He is trying his best to not let it break and in process creating more reasons for its break up. Its matter of time when this terror out fit will be destroyed by its in fighting and lack of support in Tribal population. Tribal are fed up of .these fanatic criminals and soon this gang will be busted with help of population by Qaumi Lashkers and Security forces

I took Stand that some thing gross is wrong in TTP because instead of Omer Khattab Mahsud from SWA , Faqir Muhammad is acting as a spokes man of TTP where as its not his job to act as spokes man because he is Naib Amir or VICE HEAD of TTP/

Yesterday again Faqir Muhammad contacted BBC to clarify that Al Qaeda was not behind selection of Hakeem ullah Mahsud as Amir. Faqir Muhammad lives in Bajor Agency which is Hundreds of Kilo Meters away SWA. It’s nearly impossible for him to be in clear picture when there is complete blockade of SWA from all Sides and wireless and Telephone communication is completely jammed by Government.
The reports originating from SWA say that TTP is undergoing internal disputes. Wali Ur Rehman and Qari Hussein are in conflict due to Murder of Hakeem Ullah.
Interestingly although there are in fighting in TTP camp but due to Gul Bahader and Nazir the Alliance is not breaking and Holding back. Can best define situation as Order in disorder….



Pakistani Forces have today launched an operation in Khyber Agency in area of BARA. Bara is a strong hold of Banned Lashker Islam, Headed by Mangal Bagh Afridi.
Mangal Bagh was a conductor of a local bus before becoming chief of Lashker Islam. He came into lime light when his forces pushed Ansarul Islam to Valley of Teerah.
Ansar ul Islam is a militant organization belonging to Saifullah Saifi; Saifi is a Sufi Sheikh from Afghanistan. He was forced into militancy by Deobandi cleric Mufti Shakir after he (Shakir) started attacking religious beliefs with militancy.)
Lashker Islam at first was supported by political establishment of Khyber agency because it flushed out criminals from area and was opposing TTP of Baitullah Mahsud and was considered to be an ally and defense against him in Khyber agency.
But soon Mangal Bagh men started kidnapping for ransom and other crimes. Last year government launched operation against him in which his men did not oppose govt forces. He tried to give impression that he was on government’s side. Then the reports started coming that his under controlled Valley of Teerah is used by Hakeem Ullah men to cross from Aurak Zai agency and Kurram and he has good relations with them.

On other hand kidnapping increased in Peshawar and Bara Area and the people caught turned out to be Mangal Bagh people.
Mangal Bagh was expecting serious troubles with government. About two weeks ago he called a press conference in Valley of Teerah. In his press conference he announced that new name of His movement will be TEHRIK LASHKER e ISLAM. He also threatened Government that if he or his out fit is targeted Peshawar will not remain safe any more. He also hinted that he will coordinate with TTP in operations.
At least five militants including two of their commanders were killed Tuesday in a renewed military operation in Khyber agency, reports ARY NEWS.
Twenty-eight suspected militants were also detained in the second phase of the operation “Bayadar-e-Ilm” launched early Tuesday in Bara tehsil of Khyber tribal area against the banned Lashker-e-Islam.
Two militant commanders identified as Abdul Rehman and Murad were among those killed in the dawn raids.
Twelve militants and three security personnel were also injured in the gun battles, the channel reports. Seven houses allegedly belong to militants and their supporters were also demolished in the offensive.

LOST IDENTITY: Hakeem Ullah Mahsud death and Operation is Bara
 
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Ansar ul Islam is a militant organization belonging to Saifullah Saifi; Saifi is a Sufi Sheikh from Afghanistan.

I have a little idea about these guys. I don't know about now but intelligence agencies were keeping a strict eye on these guys because they thought that the saifi group were recruiting suicide bombers.

A person belonging to their school of thought also told me that they were under the eyes of intelligence agencies but he refuted the claim of recruiting suicide bombers which he termed as a propaganda by opposing school of thoughts.

They also have a khanqah in rawalpindi on the left side of GT road(when going from pindi to Peshawar) just kilometer or so after you cross tarnol pathak.

The sufi sheikh there was a retired army officer from Army Medical Corps.
 
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I have a little idea about these guys. I don't know about now but intelligence agencies were keeping a strict eye on these guys because they thought that the saifi group were recruiting suicide bombers.

A person belonging to their school of thought also told me that they were under the eyes of intelligence agencies but he refuted the claim of recruiting suicide bombers which he termed as a propaganda by opposing school of thoughts.

They also have a khanqah in rawalpindi on the left side of GT road(when going from pindi to Peshawar) just kilometer or so after you cross tarnol pathak.

The sufi sheikh there was a retired army officer from Army Medical Corps.

there are many saifies in lahore too
Mian Muhammad Saifi, Khilifa of Saifullah Saifi has astana near Shahdera Lahore

I think from zia era deobandi and Maadodi doctrine books were issued to army officers and esteblishment...that is the reason esteblishment helped mangal bagh and acted against ansar ul islam.
the secterian element in thinking of esteblishment cannot be denied
 
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brother there are two sub sects in deoband

1] who allow sufism majority of them belong to Naqshbandi order. Pir saifullah Khalid of Lahore cantt is a fanatic deobandi but also claim to belong to Naqshbandi order

2] ther other group although deobandi but are near to Wahabi school of thought . The same kind of people slaughtered Pir Samiullah of Swat

btw the differences between deobandi school became visible when in Tablighi Markaz Mingora, Taliban called Tablighies Their sisters and offered them dubatas and protection due to their non voilent ideology
 
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ther other group although deobandi but are near to Wahabi school of thought . The same kind of people slaughtered Pir Samiullah of Swat

You are talking about punj piri mullahs i assume(to other members punj pir is a place near swabi,from where there school of thought originates). My village is at very out skirts of mardan and we have this punj piri mullah named Sultan Ghani in our village( a few km away from katlang). IIRC he had his own FM channel, but after the operation he is quite now. :D


BTW i once went to the Rawalpindi astana without my parent's permission. When my father came to know about it,he rushed immediately to my location and gave me one hell of a beating(not literally). That is when i came to know about the intelligence agencies monitoring such places.
 
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punjpiries have influence in Bajor agency but in Swat I belive TNSM was dominant
Pir Samullah was salughtered by TNSM militants
 
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Guys don't bring this sad news here or Fundamentalist will do khudkhushi alone by himself out of sadness that even his new boss may be no more.
 
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At least 40 militants including two of their commanders were killed Tuesday in a renewed military operation in Khyber agency, reports ARY NEWS.

Twenty-eight suspected militants were also detained in the second phase of the operation “Bayadar-e-Ilm” launched early Tuesday in Bara tehsil of Khyber tribal area against the banned Lashkar-e-Islam.

Two militant commanders identified as Abdul Rehman and Murad were reportedly killed in the operation.

Twelve militants and three security personnel were also injured in the gunbattles, the channel reports.

Seven houses allegedly belong to militants and their supporters were also demolished in the offensive.



40 militants killed in Khyber Agency,9/2/2009 10:07:31 AM
 
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You are talking about punj piri mullahs i assume(to other members punj pir is a place near swabi,from where there school of thought originates). My village is at very out skirts of mardan and we have this punj piri mullah named Sultan Ghani in our village( a few km away from katlang). IIRC he had his own FM channel, but after the operation he is quite now. :D

There is no Mullah in Punj peer with this name... neither i heard something like this.. my family is also in Mardan. & my best friend belong to Punj Peer.. Mostly punj peeries are in Army.. So correct your information..
 
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There is no Mullah in Punj peer with this name... neither i heard something like this.. my family is also in Mardan. & my best friend belong to Punj Peer.. Mostly punj peeries are in Army.. So correct your information..

That mullah is in mardan near pipple(khoi barmol to be exact).If you are from mardan then you should know the names of these places or atleast katlang.I stand corrected.Go check for yourself.
 
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That mullah is in mardan near pipple(khoi barmol to be exact).If you are from mardan then you should know the names of these places or atleast katlang.I stand corrected.Go check for yourself.

punjpiri Taliban means, taliban who follow ideology of Punjpir school of thought which is ultra Kharji school of thought
 
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punjpiri Taliban means, taliban who follow ideology of Punjpir school of thought which is ultra Kharji school of thought

Well i know that.I just wanted to tell him the location of the mullah.
 
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That mullah is in mardan near pipple(khoi barmol to be exact).If you are from mardan then you should know the names of these places or atleast katlang.I stand corrected.Go check for yourself.

Nope never heard about such mullah, neither in Mardan nor katlang (which is the part of Mardan). also yesterday i spoken to my friend from Punj peer, he also didn't know about him. I will still speak to my father about if such name even exists.

punjpiri Taliban means, taliban who follow ideology of Punjpir school of thought which is ultra Kharji school of thought

So there are Taliban in Punjpeer as well.. give be a break.. Yeah i know many criminals live between Mayaar, touro to swabi area (we normally avoid that places even before any Taliban Phobias exist). But Taliban.. woww!! And you also assigned a title to them "Ultra Kharji (left) school of thought". Either i am sleeping, or you guyz listen alot.
 
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