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Bad Idea yaar,
I don't why know some peoples always want Gwadar port to be handed over to China :confused:

Its our port, we should remain the prime owner of this port, we must do everything ourself........ we must welcome chinese investment and allow them to use this port for their best interests and pay taxes in exchange.......Its a simple business deal

Come use our facilities and pay a rent, service charges...

But never give them a full control of this port whatsoever. Give them full access to the port but least control :)

I'm not saying to hand this port to China permanently. We have a 40 year contract with PSA, instead we should break that contract and form a 10-20 year contract with China on this port.

As of now PSA Port Singapore Authority has control of the port, not Pakistan, and PSA is influenced by the enemies of Pakistan who dont want Gwadar Port to be a succeess hence the lack of effort from PSA towards Gwadar Port.

China's interest is the same as Pakistan's interest. China wants Gwadar Port to be a success just as Pakistan does. China wants Balochistan province to be stable so oil supplies from Gwadar port can reach from Balochistan through the Karakoram Highay into China.

What would you rather want? This port to be in control of PSA or to be in control of Pakistan's closest most trustworthy ally who shares every interest with Pakistan?

China knows how to make this port a success. The Chinese are very hard working, they will work on this port and on Gwadar to make both the port and the city a huge success.


Pakistan has limited resources, and our people are lazy.
 
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Pakistan's new Gwadar port has been struggling to attract shipping lines, a failure that sources close to the port blame on poor marketing.

At present, the only vessels using the facility are those carrying government urea cargo.

Operator PSA had planned to turn the port into a transhipment hub, but without noticeable success to date. Local businessmen are now calling upon the government to take charge of the port's affairs, while local investors are said to be creating a consortium to buy the port from PSA. The local Balochistan government is also said to be willing to take part.

In the three years that it is been open, only 92 vessels have called, despite the potential gateway role it has in serving the Central Asian States. It had been hoped that overspill container traffic from both Karachi and Qasim ports would move to Gwadar, but this has not happened.

Should either PSA or the Pakistani government withdraw from the existing contact, a penalty of $20m would have to be paid.

A spokesperson for PSA emphasised: "We have invested $40m since 2007 when the 40-year contract was signed."
 
I'm not saying to hand this port to China permanently. We have a 40 year old contract with PSA, instead we should break that contract and form a 10-20 year contract with China on this port.

As of now PSA Port Singapore Authority has control of the port, not Pakistan, and PSA is influenced by the enemies of Pakistan who dont want Gwadar Port to be a succeess hence the lack of effort from PSA towards Gwadar Port.

China's interest is the same as Pakistan's interest. China wants Gwadar Port to be a success just as Pakistan does. China wants Balochistan province to be stable so oil supplies from Gwadar port can reach from Balochistan through the Karakoram Highay into China.

What would you rather want? This port to be in control of PSA or to be in control of Pakistan's closest most trustworthy ally who shares every interest with Pakistan?

China knows how to make this port a success. The Chinese are very hard working, they will work on this port and on Gwadar to make both the port and the city a huge success.


Pakistan has limited resources, and our people are lazy.

If it was under Pakistan's govt then it would be called Shaheed Benazir Bhutto Port.
 
Makran coastal high was completed 6-7 years ago :lol:

Even the motorway has already been built. I guess 90 - 95% of the motorway has been completed between Sindh and Balochistan. Hopefully soon all 4 provinces will be connected with each other through motorways.

what is a motorway? I mean what is the difference between it and a highway?
 
what is a motorway? I mean what is the difference between it and a highway?

A motorway is a dual-carriageway limited access highway with grade separated junctions designed and built solely for motorised traffic. In English-speaking countries the term is used in the United Kingdom, some parts of Australia, New Zealand, Pakistan, some other Commonwealth nations, and Ireland in Irish). In Ireland, a road built to motorway standard, but without the designation (and the regulations and traffic restrictions resulting from that designation), is known as a high-quality dual carriageway. Motorways are identical to freeways as a road type, and comparable to the United States's Interstate Highways as a classification.
Motorway - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia




The M8 motorway of Gwadar is currently being constructed. Its near its completition.

The Makran Coastal Highway is already completed. The Makran Coastal Highway is located primarily in Balochistan, Pakistan. It follows the Arabian Sea coast from Karachi to Gwadar. It is also referred to as National Highway 10 or N10.


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Pakistan's new Gwadar port has been struggling to attract shipping lines, a failure that sources close to the port blame on poor marketing.

At present, the only vessels using the facility are those carrying government urea cargo.

Operator PSA had planned to turn the port into a transhipment hub, but without noticeable success to date. Local businessmen are now calling upon the government to take charge of the port's affairs, while local investors are said to be creating a consortium to buy the port from PSA. The local Balochistan government is also said to be willing to take part.

In the three years that it is been open, only 92 vessels have called, despite the potential gateway role it has in serving the Central Asian States. It had been hoped that overspill container traffic from both Karachi and Qasim ports would move to Gwadar, but this has not happened.

Should either PSA or the Pakistani government withdraw from the existing contact, a penalty of $20m would have to be paid.

A spokesperson for PSA emphasised: "We have invested $40m since 2007 when the 40-year contract was signed."

give it to china or not is a different question but why blame PSA? we havent given them any road links. why would anyone use Gwadar when goods have to be redirected to Karachi ultimately.
 


ISLAMABAD, Nov 3 (APP): Federal Minister for Ports and Shipping, Babar Khan Ghauri on Wednesday told the Upper House of Parliament that Gwadar Port was fully operational, however, the incompletion of N-85 highway was the major hurdle in getting maximum output from the port. He said the port had handled more than 120 vessels carrying over 2 million metric tons of Urea and 0.9 million metric tons of Wheat.

Replying to a question, Babar said the completion of N-85 road linking Gwadar with Rathodero would make the port operational for transit trade and local import and export.

So far the government had spent Rs. 2 billion as transportation fee in using the alternate route for the port, he added.

He said the land required for the free zone for establishing port related industries and production of base cargo, had not so far been made available.
 
any update on the status of M-8 Motorway :angry:
 


ISLAMABAD: Supreme Court has directed chairman Gwadar Port Authority and Secretary Ports and Shipping to file till December 8 para-wise comments over the issue of award of contract to a Singapore company for developing the Gwadar port.

The directive was issued on a joint petition in super cession of its own initiative taken earlier through suo motu.

A three-member bench comprising Chief Justice Iftikhar Muhammad Chaudhry, Justice Ghulam Rabbani and Justice Khalil-ur-Ramday heard the constitution petition filed by Muhammad Zakir Khan & others vs The Federation of Pakistan & others.

The bench observed in its order that prima-facie strong and convincing arguments have been incorporated in the petition to persuade this Court to grant the relief, which was prayed.

Abdul Hafeez Pirzada, Sikandar Bashir Mohmand and Mehmood A. Sheikh, AOR appeared on behalf of the petitioners and prayed that the Concession Agreement between Gwadar Port Authority and Port of Singapore Authority Gwadar private Ltd, should be declared as annulled and cancelled as it violated the laws and the objectives for which it was created.

They said that the Federal Government and the Gwadar Port Authority be directed to resume the possession, operation and management of the Gwadar Port and all of its facilities.

Abdul Hafeez Pirzada, the counsel, read out the contents of the agreement.

Earlier, the apex court had taken up a suo motu notice on failure of the PSA in developing the port despite incentives provided by`the government. But now it would hear the pending pleas.
 


QUETTA - Government of Balochistan has decided to challenge the agreement of Gwadar Port with Port of Singapore Port Authority in the Supreme Court, a reliable source within the government seeking anonymity told TheNation here on Friday night.

According to the source, the provincial government would file a petition in the apex court within a few days pleading that the said agreement was inked by Musharraf government without taking people of Balochistan into confidence.

It is worth mentioning here that Chief Minister Nawab Aslam Raisani is of the view that Gwadar Port as well as Reko Diq agreements should be revoked and new agreements in accordance with the wishes of the Baloch people should be made. The previous government had given Gwadar Port to Port of Singapore Authority for 40 years.
 
There are no real developments happening in Gwadar. The people there are living in extreme poverty, most of them don't even have clean water. Gwadar was lost when the new corrupt govt came in.
 
There are no real developments happening in Gwadar. The people there are living in extreme poverty, most of them don't even have clean water. Gwadar was lost when the new corrupt govt came in.

There is always hope.

Like Karachi once was, Gwadar is a fishing community. Once Gwadar Port is connected to the rest of the country, we'll see Gwadar become developed like Karachi. And once Gwadar is connected to Central Asia and China, we'll see Gwadar become better than Karachi.

Yes the new government is not working on the potential our country has.
 
Pakistan may nix port deal with PSA, China to benefit?


Tue Nov 9, 2010 9:28am EST
* Provincial government to challenge port deal in court

* PSA fails to bring in trade

* Security concerns discourage trade

By Kamran Haider

ISLAMABAD, Nov 9 (Reuters) - The head of Pakistan's Baluchistan province pledged on Tuesday to challenge in the courts what he said was a "one-sided" deal with a Singapore company to run a strategic harbour in Gwadar port.

Authorities dismissed any notion that the port would be handed to Chinese control because of its substantial investment. But analysts suspect China would push for a major say over the port to back its bid to expand its influence in the Indian Ocean.

Pakistan, struggling to revive its debt-hit economy, is keen to become a conduit for trade to landlocked Afghanistan and Central Asia. It has three major ports -- Gwadar in Baluchistan and two at Karachi, 450 km (280 miles) to the east.

As initially envisaged, former president Pervez Musharraf's government gave management and operational control of the deep-sea port to Singapore's PSA International Ltd [PSAIN.UL] in February 2007 for 40 years.

But the chief minister of the government of Baluchistan, the southwestern province where Gawdar port is located, said he would seek its cancellation by the Supreme Court this month.

"After consultation with legal experts and law ministry, we have decided that we will go to the court this month and seek its cancellation," Nawab Mohammad Aslam Raisani said in an interview in Islamabad. "It's a one-sided agreement. It's our land. It's our port and we should run it."

He said PSA International Ltd had neither brought in trade nor expanded the port. But there were no plans to hand the port to China. "Why can we not operate it ourselves? We have trained people."

PSA, which runs ports around the world and is owned by state wealth fund Temasek Holdings, declined comment.

LOW CARGO LEVELS, NO INVESTMENT

Gwadar port handled about $700 million in cargo in 2009, less than half of its cargo capacity, a port and shipping ministry official said. He said the company had made no investment despite an agreement to invest $525 million over five years.

Pakistan gets only 9 percent of the port's total revenue.

Slow business also caused suspension of planned $1.5 billion investment by a Chinese company, Tianjin Zhongbei Harbour Engineering, he said.

In September, Pakistan's naval chief asked the government to review the contract for the same reasons. [ID:nSGE68N06W]

Gwadar, 70 km (45 miles) east of the Iranian border and on the doorstep of Gulf shipping lanes, was conceived over a decade ago with hopes it would handle transhipment traffic for the Gulf.

A regional maritime industry source said a failure to develop infrastructure by the port and check security discouraged trade.

Under the agreement, the Baluchistan government, which has been battling a decades-old low-level revolt by nationalists for provincial autonomy, was to develop a free-zone for warehouses and export processing zone and establish road and rail links.

The central government, led by Prime Minister Yusuf Raza Gilani, appears unwilling to defend the contract with PSA.

"I don't think we will. We can only prove that we followed the due process at the time of awarding the contract," a senior government official said.

Middle East and South Asia director of the private intelligence company STRATFOR, Kamran Bokhari, said Beijing was likely seeking to acquire influence over the port.

"The Chinese do want to have considerable access to it," he said. "The port serves as a key location facilitating Beijing's attempts to expand its influence further west," he said.

This will upset India, which has already expressed concern over China's influence in the region.

Pakistan may nix port deal with PSA, China to benefit? | Reuters
 
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