Gulf States Set To Buy Iron Dome System

[Natan]

Currently not possible but who knows about future

This is also the answer to your question. It takes two to tango.

in Musharraf's time it was debated and if things had not gone wrong Internationally and domestically then we may had initiated limited relations not full acknowledgement.

Yes, I recall that.

 

[Saif al-Arab]

Their policy towards Palestinians won't change, so you either accept it and make relations or don't. Most Arab states have accepted and made relations. Don't think too much about how other Arabs may view it, go forward with it and see what it results in. If it is in certain Arab states interests to do so, then so be it. But don't tease me with the non-existent Arab nationalism, kill that idea completely. Unfortunately, PA cares too much about Arab states opinions hence they accept the status quo and surrender more land by the day. Hamas on other hand doesn't, just because we may be Arabs doesn't mean we need to go with the flow of sometimes seriously stupid people. It's better to get Arabs out of our lives, cut all ties with them, develop ties with non-Arabs and uproot the terrorist Israeli regime on our own and develop our nation from then on. If any Arabs threaten to invade us after we uproot the Zionist regime than we will host Russia and Iran to protect our borders.



It can't stop mortars, it's meant mostly for homemade rockets with below average velocity.

Non-Israelis and non-Palestinians cannot solve a conflict that does not involve them directly. It makes no sense to have that view. Only world powers such as USA and Russia can pressure/influence both parties but I doubt that this will even work. The world has tried for almost 70 years now.

The only Arab countries that have somewhat normalized ties with Israel are Egypt, Jordan and to a smaller extent Morocco. Turkey, Azerbaijan (just to mention two Muslim nations) have much closer ties to Israel.

Why the hell should any Arab nation invade or attack tiny Palestine? It makes no sense. Iran is no threat for any Arab country either and I doubt that Russia has any interests in attacking any Arab countries. It never did so. Anyway Palestinians are free to have relations with everyone they want to just like anyone else. Certain Palestinian groups and politicians already have ties with Iran for instance and that's their choice/problem. I personally don't care as that is a personal choice.

Countries are and will always look at their own interests first and foremost. That's what politics is about for good and bad.

 

[haman10]

Good . i really pray this is true cause :

1- Real face of some hypocrites will we shown

2- there are more valuable targets for us to destroy .

 

[Falcon29]

Non-Israelis and non-Palestinians cannot solve a conflict that does not involve them directly. It makes no sense to have that view. Only world powers such as USA and Russia can pressure/influence both parties but I doubt that this will even work. The world has tried for almost 70 years now.

The only Arab countries that have somewhat normalized ties with Israel are Egypt, Jordan and to a smaller extent Morocco. Turkey, Azerbaijan (just to mention two Muslim nations) have much closer ties to Israel.

Why the hell should any Arab nation invade or attack tiny Palestine? It makes no sense. Iran is no threat for any Arab country either and I doubt that Russia has any interests in attacking any Arab countries. It never did so. Anyway Palestinians are free to have relations with everyone they want to just like anyone else. Certain Palestinian groups and politicians already have ties with Iran for instance and that's their choice/problem. I personally don't care as that is a personal choice.

Countries are and will always look at their own interests first and foremost. That's what politics is about for good and bad.

Where did I say I want Arab states to attack Israel? Arab states will do worse job than armed monkeys. This is because of the high levels of corruption, betrayal, jealousy and hatred among both the leaders and the people. What I want is all Palestinian parties to not succumb to pressure from Arabs who want us to secede our land to Jewish rats. Too bad PA keeps getting blackmailed by these wanna be powers who have false sense of pride and hence accepts status-quo. And whenever Palestinians express their say(in elections), Israel and Arab nations scrap the results and instead force us to tolerate PA dictatorship by arming them to teeth in order to suppress every other Palestinian who revolts against them. So you Arab people need to back the **** off, we don't want your corrupt, useless god damned regimes and low iq fucking retard mentality and lifestyle. You are far from 'attacking Israel', that's left side of spectrum, your states are all the way on the right forcing what they want on our people. Otherwise this cocksucking PA would cease to exist.

 

[Saif al-Arab]

Where did I say I want Arab states to attack Israel? Arab states will do worse job than armed monkeys. This is because of the high levels of corruption, betrayal, jealousy and hatred among both the leaders and the people. What I want is all Palestinian parties to not succumb to pressure from Arabs who want us to secede our land to Jewish rats. Too bad PA keeps getting blackmailed by these wanna be powers who have false sense of pride and hence accepts status-quo. And whenever Palestinians express their say(in elections), Israel and Arab nations scrap the results and instead force us to tolerate PA dictatorship by arming them to teeth in order to suppress every other Palestinian who revolts against them. So you Arab people need to back the **** off, we don't want your corrupt, useless god damned regimes and low iq fucking retard mentality and lifestyle. You are far from 'attacking Israel', that's left side of spectrum, your states are all the way on the right forcing what they want on our people. Otherwise this cocksucking PA would cease to exist.

The average Arab has absolutely nothing to do with internal Palestinians affairs or policies or the Palestinian-Israeli conflict for that matter. If Palestinians were not Arabs and if Jerusalem was not home to the third most revered site in Islam after Makkah and Madinah few would care about that almost 100 year old conflict. At least not more than about the 100's of other conflicts in the region and world as a whole.

Nothing stops Palestinians or any other people in the region from taking their own affairs in their own hands.

You need to make up your mind Hazzy. Either you want the Arab world to cooperate and make the region a better place or you want to solve your own problems on your own. It can't be both. Without Arab assistance to Palestine the situation would be much worse and let's not forget that the Arab world hosts as many Palestinians as Palestine itself. The West will close its borders soon to every non-European. Forget about the non-Arab countries, Russia, China etc.

What you speak about is identical in all the Arab and Muslim world with no exceptions.

Anyway we are off-topic and I am not even sure what the hell we are discussing.

 

[Falcon29]

The average Arab has absolutely nothing to do with internal Palestinians affairs or policies or the Palestinian-Israeli conflict for that matter. If Palestinians were not Arabs and if Jerusalem was not home to the third most revered site in Islam after Makkah and Madinah few would care about that almost 100 year old conflict. At least not more than about the 100's of other conflicts in the region and world as a whole.

Nothing stops Palestinians or any other people in the region from taking their own affairs in their own hands.

You need to make up your mind Hazzy. Either you want the Arab world to cooperate and make the region a better place or you want to solve your own problems on your own. It can't be both. Without Arab assistance to Palestine the situation would be much worse and let's not forget that the Arab world hosts as many Palestinians as Palestine itself. The West will close its borders soon to every non-European. Forget about the non-Arab countries, Russia, China etc.

What you speak about is identical in all the Arab and Muslim world with no exceptions.

Anyway we are off-topic and I am not even sure what the hell we are discussing.

I have had my mind for a long time. The current regimes are backwards, the people electing/tolerating them are also backwards. And I can't speak about regional development as long as it is stuck with what we have. As for cooperation, I don't know what kind of cooperation you're referring to. Not everyone in the region wants to cooperate with each other.

 

[Saif al-Arab]

I have had my mind for a long time. The current regimes are backwards, the people electing/tolerating them are also backwards. And I can't speak about regional development as long as it is stuck with what we have. As for cooperation, I don't know what kind of cooperation you're referring to. Not everyone in the region wants to cooperate with each other.

That we agree with and we need to change that. Although we should really be careful with blaming entire people or nations. As we both know most people in Arab/Muslim countries x or y or the world for that matter have too many problems of their own. We are unfortunately selfish people by large. The current situation on most fronts have corrupted people and made them sheep. It's the harsh but sad reality.

I understand your frustration with the PA, Arab, Muslim and world regimes as a whole but understand that you won't find more pro-Palestinian people anywhere outside of Palestine but in the Arab world. Even Arabs who blindly follow their nations regime policies (sometimes policies that are not favorable towards Palestine) would prefer if Palestinians and Palestine was a free and prosperous country. I mean at least the neighboring people. Meaning Jordanians, Lebanese, Syrians, Saudi Arabians, Egyptians (yes the vast majority of them) etc. Palestinians are our brethren. No sane Arab can wish bad for them by large.

I don't know the solution to this conflict and we two have discussed this many times in the past as well.

Anyway this news is also likely nonsense. The regime in KSA would never have such relations with Israel. Due to the policies of the current King, the Ulema and the population as a whole. The regime would never be able to justify such a purchase to the local population in the current political climate.

For all the anti-GCC clowns here from Bangladesh and God knows where (non-ME people) the rhetoric against the Israeli regime in KSA is harsh.

Look at the current World Cup 2018 qualification. KSA and Palestine are in the same group. They were to play each other today (second head to head match in the group) in the West Bank but KSA refused to play as they would have to pass through Israeli security. UAE, Jordan and Malaysia had no problem doing that.

It just shows that there is no way (as of now) that you will ever see KSA-Israeli cooperation on a state level this big. It won't happen in my lifetime unless a solution to the Palestinian conflict is found.

@Full Moon can tell you more as he is much older than me. From educational books, religious books to media and internal policies.

I am talking about anti-Israeli regime sentiments. Not necessarily anti-Jewish sentiment although you have those people too like anywhere. Same with Israel where you have many anti-Arab/Muslim/non-Jewish haters.

 

[mike2000 is back]

Bahrain and other members of the Gulf Cooperation Council (GCC) are in negotiations to buy the Israeli-developed Iron Dome anti-missile system to defend against "a growing arsenal of Iranian missiles"

Gulf States Set To Buy Iron Dome System

Israel............I have always been amazed by their technological prowess, despite being so small. reminds me of my own country.

Hats off to the Israeli people @500, @Natan .
GCC countries made a good choice, since everybody knows Israel's military equipment/tech is top notch and rivals any U.S/U.K/French/German equipment in quality/effectiveness. Countries like India and even Russia to some extent can attest to this.

 

[Viper0011.]

Bahrain and other members of the Gulf Cooperation Council (GCC) are in negotiations to buy the Israeli-developed Iron Dome anti-missile system to defend against "a growing arsenal of Iranian missiles"

Gulf States Set To Buy Iron Dome System

Good development . This will help end decades of stupid animosity towards each other. I think now is time for Pakistan to recognize Israel and do trade with the Israelis that would be mutually beneficial for both the nations. It makes NO sense for Pakistan to consider Israel an enemy due to the "Arab brethren" when the same brethren are buying defensive weapons from Israel . Not sure what to call it.

But its time for Pakistan to have an independent foreign policy from Arab influence (which has started to shape up a bit), and really connect with Israel and do good trade. Why should either side avoid or waste hundreds of millions of potential opportunity and profit for the sake of few others????

Iran is not even a Semitic country like Israel and Arab countries. Iran is Indo European as are Pakistan, Afghanistan, Russia in the region.

Iran is a country ??? Some on here think Iran and India are two LARGE regional powers, and a plane flying at Mach 2 will spend days in entering from one side and leaving the other. The most prosperous, influential, the mighty of the might, the Persia and the India (both end in "ia" so I'll give credit to that)

 

[That Guy]

Well, if you are so well informed, what it the name of a system similar to Iron Dome?

By the way, the Iron Dome was built with US financial assitance, but with Israeli technologies only.

Missile defense - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
NATO missile defence system - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
United States national missile defense - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Aegis Ballistic Missile Defense System - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


This is common knowledge, I'm not going to do your homework for you. It isn't just Israel and the US that has developed such systems, nor is such a system new.

Also, US scientists and defense corporations collaborated heavily on the project, so no. Israel didn't have the technology, until the US gave it to them.

The Iron dome is just a rudimentary design, compared to what the Gulf Arabs need. Iran's missiles aren't regular Katyusha rocket batteries, nor glorified big bullet shaped cannon balls that Hamas uses.

Iran's missiles are sophisticated, and require major investment to counter, especially since Iran not only fields cruise missiles, but also has the largest advanced missile system inventory in the entire region. The Iron dome is meant as a cheap answer to unguided missiles targeting sensitive areas, which is a major reason why Israel considers an 80-90% interception rate as a success for the Iron dome program. Any other scenario, anything short of 99% would be considered a failure.

Next time you want to say something, google it before hand.

 

[bdslph]

Bahrain and other members of the Gulf Cooperation Council (GCC) are in negotiations to buy the Israeli-developed Iron Dome anti-missile system to defend against "a growing arsenal of Iranian missiles"

Gulf States Set To Buy Iron Dome System

GCC cannot create there own
but i wont be surprised if they buy as it is proven system

 

[Adir-M]

Gulf States Set To Buy Iron Dome System
confirm

according to the artical and i quote "deal for the whole of the GCC, which includes Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates, Oman, Qatar and Kuwait, would be worth tens, perhaps hundreds, of billions of dollars.

It would also include longer range interceptor missiles such as David's Sling, and the Arrow I and Arrow II which are capable of intercepting supersonic intercontinental ballistic missiles"

 

[500]

It is like "we already have tanks and howitzers, why would we need small arms, such as pistols and assault rifles". Have you ever seen a modern army without assault rifles?

Iron Dome is an effective and battle proven solution against salvos of Grad-type rockets. A single Patriot missile is twice larger, two-three times heavier, and 20 times more expensive. Patriot PAC3 is supposed to counter SCUD missiles, not rockets.

Not just Grad, but also large artillery rockets like Russian Smerch, Chinese M302 (these two are in Assad possession) or Iranian Fajr-5.

More over, Iron Dome has higher probability vs. these larger rockets than vs. Grad. In Tel Aviv metro, which was attacked by large rockets it showed 100% effectiveness.

 

[Natan]

Missile defense - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
NATO missile defence system - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
United States national missile defense - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Aegis Ballistic Missile Defense System - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


This is common knowledge, I'm not going to do your homework for you. It isn't just Israel and the US that has developed such systems, nor is such a system new.

Also, US scientists and defense corporations collaborated heavily on the project, so no. Israel didn't have the technology, until the US gave it to them.

The Iron dome is just a rudimentary design, compared to what the Gulf Arabs need. Iran's missiles aren't regular Katyusha rocket batteries, nor glorified big bullet shaped cannon balls that Hamas uses.

Iran's missiles are sophisticated, and require major investment to counter, especially since Iran not only fields cruise missiles, but also has the largest advanced missile system inventory in the entire region. The Iron dome is meant as a cheap answer to unguided missiles targeting sensitive areas, which is a major reason why Israel considers an 80-90% interception rate as a success for the Iron dome program. Any other scenario, anything short of 99% would be considered a failure.

Next time you want to say something, google it before hand.

Iron Dome has nothing to do with ship-based AEGIS, and you haven't provided a single name of a system, comparable with Iron Dome.

I'm not going to waste my time on you any further. Welcome to my ignore list.

 

[somebozo]

It is hard to tell, because Pakistan is not in the news here, too far away, without any interaction.

An average Israeli Joe knows that Pakistan is a Muslim country without diplomatic relationship with Israel (i.e. dangerous place to visit, no Israeli tourists), and that Pakistan is far away and not involved in our difficult relationships with our neighbors (i.e. no danger of war, not interesting).

Lot of dual national Pakistanis have been to Israel..I know for sure that Pakistani mango and rooh afza is very much liked in Israel and is exported by some traders via Jordan..