Gujarat: Pack of Hindus attack Muslim laborer with knives for refusing to shriek "Jai Shri Ram:

[karmaa]

Why should Pakistanis take the responsibility for the poor decision made by the Indian Muslims?

We never prevented the Indian Muslims from immigrating to Pakistan.

It was their fault that they stayed behind.

Indian muslims are not dying daily by suicide blast pakistanis are facing death every day . Minor incidents happen even in US .

 

[313ghazi]

Kind of bias and childish logic is alarming. You guys speaking like a super brainwashed people without using a single brain cell of your own. Only thing you can say is 'oh you are not a pakistani' LMAO! This is height of your ignorance and acceptance of your defeat by not making a logical point and accusing another person to be HINDU or INDIAN. I also accuse Abdul Majeed khan as disguised pakistani as indian but never knew myself will be accused just because extremists have almost zero capability to listen the arguments from any other person.

No wonder, why Pakistan is in a state that it is now. No capability to listen to arguments and start accusing other with pack of lies. It is disgusting to be honest.

Your absolutely zero logic and only accusations is a proof itself that division was a mistake. You have developed into two extremist states with zero tolerance level. Such narrow / bias views tch tch. What is exactly the difference between you and an RSS goon, When you fails to argue and resorts to accusation and start calling other person as indian. You doing exactly the same. and this proves all my points again that what a failed idea it was to create two extremist nations based on bloody partition and continued hatred. Human society bounded by such hate for another humans just because of their faiths is disgusting. Its laughable that you people think yourselves as perhaps good muslims. What kind of muslim will accuse another because of his different views on the concept which weakened muslims at first place.

The argument that some pre-partition riots happened - yes happened towards end of british raj - the whole approach of british was divide & conquer. There wasn't that much of an issue before british arrival. The riots only started in much frequency when a specific group of people started talking about separate land. Parition was massive political mistake for muslims. They were thinking a HUGE piece of land almost half of india as muslims and other half as hindus. But that NEVER happened, you got very small land comparatively and that too at both ends separated by a hindu state. It was terrible geographic with 1000s of KM between two ends. Ultimately Bengalis giving two F--ks to whole Concept and ultimately creation of Bangladesh. Only Kids can talk as you people are talking. Intellectuals like Molana Abdul Kalam Azad and various muslims were absolutely right that in short term for few years this concept of parition may appease but at the lense of history in 100s of years it will become obvious that it was a mistake. That has 100% become obvious by the way you people are reacting, the way you have developed intolerance because solely of partition, the way you guys have developed a narrow / bias and hatred filled mentality thats a shame for any human society. Another obvious failure of Pakistan as a failed state. It was promised to be a welfare state. Entire 75 years is filled with military barbaric dictatorship and fuedal lords over poors in Sindh & lower Punjab. The country is literally drowning in debts and there is no way out. Even Today it is practically as marshal law, the most patriotic leadership is in jails, the patriotic journalists are either killed or tortured. BTW, same story is happening continously for 75 years in tribal areas and Balochistan. And you guys are arguying that bloody parition was right ? Sectarian violence, 80,000+ dead in recent 15 years in war on terror Where the terrorists are also so-called muslims, they blew themselves up saying Allah o Akbar, obviously they are not doing any service to Islam but those suicide bombers are illiterate they think they are doing it for Islam, they are illiterate and brainwashed just like you folks.

Giving pathetic accuses that oh see whats happening in india today to muslims. LMAO! First of all such few events in a country with over a billion population cannot be counted at all. Chances of this to be done to a single person is one in literally million years. Secondly, WHO the F--k would have done this to you if you were to be in power and in numbers. Use your god damn little brains. Atleast try to use a single cell of out of it. It's pretty common sense that with 70 crore muslims you would have made a huge part of government. United india would have been a leader of entire muslim world. It was Ummah in real sense Not a selfish, narrow thinking that oh its 20 crore indian muslims fault lmao. At one end you guys claim to be ummah chummah and other end you F--k up 20 crore muslims and discard them and act completely selfish. No one with muslim

Partition was only division of muslims. It weakend muslims to a lot degree. A big chunk left in India, Big chunk in Pakistan, Big Chunk in Bangladesh, and one big, powerful country with majority hindus to bully the small new country.

Try to think bigger, try to think of history not from few riots point of view but from larger perspective, see implications of this decision in 100s of years, Try to open your minds.

Try to think on energies spent against each other for 75+ years, the bloody wars, the full efforts to destablize each other, ISI, RAW, the kashmir issue, the bloody partition, the riots that erupted when this movement for parition started - all that could have been avoided and you see a world power. Despite consuming so much effort on Pakistan, india still has become world's 5th largest economy and a space power, Pakistan became nuclear power but sadly nothing else - Together with unity they would have been at top of world. Your concepts would have been different. You would have grown matured, with your own intellectual thinking. Not the one which was fed to you in your childhood. One of reasons why indians are dominating the tech world, becoming world leaders both politically and technically around the world is that their education is objective and conceptual. Unlike the way which we were taught. If we don't realize our mistakes we will never progress.

Saying all that - I know above is too much for you to consume. Pakistan is created now. Pakistan is a reality. It cannot be undone. Now we must try to change our thinkings, We must try to remove our unneccassry hatred. If BJP / RSS are extremists, we don't have to follow their examples. We have tons of problems of our own. If 75 years were a failture, our only option now is to imrpove our future and that will be done by accepting our mistakes and learning from mistakes. We must improve our education sector, we must do massive reforms in it. We must do reforms in military too so it becomes a force that always work under its consittutional boundary. A state can only last if there's regard of law in it. and lastly and most importantly if we have to succeed ever in life then we must develop the guts to listen to others and must develop ability to listen to new ideas and out of box thinking. We must develop tolerance. Extremist behavious will see us our doom. Thank you

OK, move to India and live with them.

 

[hussain0216]

Indian muslims are not dying daily by suicide blast pakistanis are facing death every day . Minor incidents happen even in US .

No they are being erased,, how much representation do Indian Muslims have in government?
Indian Muslim history is being erased
Indian Muslim place names are being replaced with Hindu ones
Indian Muslims culture and history is being removed from school books

the common mass hatred on the ground is a reflection of what JINNAH always warned about and it's only going to get worse unless and until Indian Muslims get freedom and independence away from Hindu extremists

 

[CivilianSupremacy]

OK, move to India and live with them.

"Go back to Pakistan"

You hear this from the other side. You both are same

That's one of the ugly fruits of partition - Continued hatred. As a human society that must end. That's my point. You guys think you are pious and saints. Not even a bit!

 

[arjunk]

Indian Muslims need to fight back. They’re 200 million + in numbers. Fight back if you want to survive.

They are geneticlly Gangetic/Dravidian at the end of the day. These races have no capacity to fight unlike for example the Pashtuns, whose every man is a soldier.

 

[hussain0216]

Kind of bias and childish logic is alarming. You guys speaking like a super brainwashed people without using a single brain cell of your own. Only thing you can say is 'oh you are not a pakistani' LMAO! This is height of your ignorance and acceptance of your defeat by not making a logical point and accusing another person to be HINDU or INDIAN. I also accuse Abdul Majeed khan as disguised pakistani as indian but never knew myself will be accused just because extremists have almost zero capability to listen the arguments from any other person.

No wonder, why Pakistan is in a state that it is now. No capability to listen to arguments and start accusing other with pack of lies. It is disgusting to be honest.

Your absolutely zero logic and only accusations is a proof itself that division was a mistake. You have developed into two extremist states with zero tolerance level. Such narrow / bias views tch tch. What is exactly the difference between you and an RSS goon, When you fails to argue and resorts to accusation and start calling other person as indian. You doing exactly the same. and this proves all my points again that what a failed idea it was to create two extremist nations based on bloody partition and continued hatred. Human society bounded by such hate for another humans just because of their faiths is disgusting. Its laughable that you people think yourselves as perhaps good muslims. What kind of muslim will accuse another because of his different views on the concept which weakened muslims at first place.

The argument that some pre-partition riots happened - yes happened towards end of british raj - the whole approach of british was divide & conquer. There wasn't that much of an issue before british arrival. The riots only started in much frequency when a specific group of people started talking about separate land. Parition was massive political mistake for muslims. They were thinking a HUGE piece of land almost half of india as muslims and other half as hindus. But that NEVER happened, you got very small land comparatively and that too at both ends separated by a hindu state. It was terrible geographic with 1000s of KM between two ends. Ultimately Bengalis giving two F--ks to whole Concept and ultimately creation of Bangladesh. Only Kids can talk as you people are talking. Intellectuals like Molana Abdul Kalam Azad and various muslims were absolutely right that in short term for few years this concept of parition may appease but at the lense of history in 100s of years it will become obvious that it was a mistake. That has 100% become obvious by the way you people are reacting, the way you have developed intolerance because solely of partition, the way you guys have developed a narrow / bias and hatred filled mentality thats a shame for any human society. Another obvious failure of Pakistan as a failed state. It was promised to be a welfare state. Entire 75 years is filled with military barbaric dictatorship and fuedal lords over poors in Sindh & lower Punjab. The country is literally drowning in debts and there is no way out. Even Today it is practically as marshal law, the most patriotic leadership is in jails, the patriotic journalists are either killed or tortured. BTW, same story is happening continously for 75 years in tribal areas and Balochistan. And you guys are arguying that bloody parition was right ? Sectarian violence, 80,000+ dead in recent 15 years in war on terror Where the terrorists are also so-called muslims, they blew themselves up saying Allah o Akbar, obviously they are not doing any service to Islam but those suicide bombers are illiterate they think they are doing it for Islam, they are illiterate and brainwashed just like you folks.

Giving pathetic accuses that oh see whats happening in india today to muslims. LMAO! First of all such few events in a country with over a billion population cannot be counted at all. Chances of this to be done to a single person is one in literally million years. Secondly, WHO the F--k would have done this to you if you were to be in power and in numbers. Use your god damn little brains. Atleast try to use a single cell of out of it. It's pretty common sense that with 70 crore muslims you would have made a huge part of government. United india would have been a leader of entire muslim world. It was Ummah in real sense Not a selfish, narrow thinking that oh its 20 crore indian muslims fault lmao. At one end you guys claim to be ummah chummah and other end you F--k up 20 crore muslims and discard them and act completely selfish. No one with muslim

Partition was only division of muslims. It weakend muslims to a lot degree. A big chunk left in India, Big chunk in Pakistan, Big Chunk in Bangladesh, and one big, powerful country with majority hindus to bully the small new country.

Try to think bigger, try to think of history not from few riots point of view but from larger perspective, see implications of this decision in 100s of years, Try to open your minds.

Try to think on energies spent against each other for 75+ years, the bloody wars, the full efforts to destablize each other, ISI, RAW, the kashmir issue, the bloody partition, the riots that erupted when this movement for parition started - all that could have been avoided and you see a world power. Despite consuming so much effort on Pakistan, india still has become world's 5th largest economy and a space power, Pakistan became nuclear power but sadly nothing else - Together with unity they would have been at top of world. Your concepts would have been different. You would have grown matured, with your own intellectual thinking. Not the one which was fed to you in your childhood. One of reasons why indians are dominating the tech world, becoming world leaders both politically and technically around the world is that their education is objective and conceptual. Unlike the way which we were taught. If we don't realize our mistakes we will never progress.

Saying all that - I know above is too much for you to consume. Pakistan is created now. Pakistan is a reality. It cannot be undone. Now we must try to change our thinkings, We must try to remove our unneccassry hatred. If BJP / RSS are extremists, we don't have to follow their examples. We have tons of problems of our own. If 75 years were a failture, our only option now is to imrpove our future and that will be done by accepting our mistakes and learning from mistakes. We must improve our education sector, we must do massive reforms in it. We must do reforms in military too so it becomes a force that always work under its consittutional boundary. A state can only last if there's regard of law in it. and lastly and most importantly if we have to succeed ever in life then we must develop the guts to listen to others and must develop ability to listen to new ideas and out of box thinking. We must develop tolerance. Extremist behavious will see us our doom. Thank you

Wait is this comedy

Are you doing a comedy sketch, are you drunk I'm not sure


Let me repeat some things
THEIR WAS NO FREAKING PEACE BETWEEN MUSLIMS AND HINDUS FOR A THOUSAND YEARS
The British did not divide us, we were already divided are you REALLY that ignorant of history in south Asia

Peace was enforced at the point of a Muslim sword and to a extent the barrel of a British gun and in boh occasions there was mass slaughter and conflict and battles across India
The hindus don't shed tears about endless destroyed temples for nothing




The concept of a united is flawed, we are NOT ONE POPULATION
We have very little to do with the hindus
And you think this nation where hindus formed the majority (although lesser then now) would represent Muslims??????


It would be conflict, brutal conflict, a civil war to end civil wars


Indians muslim currently have 200+ million population
That is still MASSIVE so where is there representation in government, or military????????




India is a overpopulated slum and the most populous country in the world so it will.of course be one of the worlds biggest economy,, that means very little of the majority of their population is stuck in poverty
For the majority of the last 75 years PAKISTAN was ahead of India and south Asia in most indexes..... FACT

And we can be again




Bangladesh itself is a free Muslim state AS PER PARTITION


Just because Pakistan has issues to resolve does not mean we give up or allow stupid arguments for enslavement





Indians Muslims are living the consequence of their failed leadership and I repeat they live in a state of Hindu extremists, who are erasing their culture and history and they suffer the failure of Maulana Azad

Their only option is to pool their population into Muslim areas so they have the numbers to defend themselves


Ultimately they need from freedom, independence and PARTITION away from.hindus