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I hope the Griks are really enjoying this little temporary "authority" that the Western powers have granted them in the Aegean Sea. With the mandate of the Lausanne Treaty coming to an end soon, it's not meant to last much longer. And mind you, Turkey now has excellent relations with the enforcers (mainly the UK, France, Italy) whereas Grease owes them billions of euros. Literally.

There's no temporary authority in the Aegean, things was like that always.. Lausanne treaty has no expiration date, it's a total myth. Good for you to have good relations with them, Greece besides being member of the same union with those countries you mentioned, has excellent relations with them too, italian, french and other energy-oil companies for example are granted licenses to drill in the Cyprus republic eez and will soon be drilling in Greece's eez.

Because few things are more fun than to scare the Griks. :)

If you were smart, you wouldn't talk so loud, you would try to hide the fact that you're the aggressor who wants to the treaty to end so as to revise its terms(even though Erdogan when he came here in Greece had the audacity to speak openly for the need to revise it).
We are not scared, we're armed pretty well for a small country so as to defend succesfully, we have made the right strategic alliances(not changing them day after day, depending on where the wind is blowing each time) decades ago so as to have our whole army available in the turkish fronts(Thrace, Aegean, etc) having no other possible threat and we choose our words wisely, perhaps you should have done the same..
 
to drill in the Cyprus republic eez
You will see our drilling begin Spring 2018. Zone 24 at Karpas.

Sometimes I believe you are cretegeorge from Waffer but writing moderate, cause here are other rules.
Either Turkish Cypriots will benefit from all what the South benefits or Greeks and Greek Cypriots will see the consequences.
BTW you can't demolish my friedship to Greeks and my symphaty. There are too much intelligent people who know what equal prosperity sharing is in Greek.
TODAY we wait crypto TSIPRAS put his feet on KARDAK.
 
@NickGr That's cute. But the fact of the matter is that Greece is barely even a sovereign country. It was "made up" at the weakest point of the Ottoman Empire by Western Powers. Prior to that it hadn't existed for centuries. You bunch have served as our slaves and bitches. Fast forward to today, Greece has proven itself to be a failed experiment because you lazy, corrupt fvcks are incapable of even running a small EU economy. Bailout after bailout failed. You are OWNED by the Germans today just as you were OWNED by the Turks back in the day.

As for Greece and alliances. LMAO! That's a good joke. Greece is a vassal state, a customer, a prostitute. It cannot form alliances. It is ordered to fight on its owners' side. Nothing more.

As for the Griks not "being scared". Hahhaha! Yeah right. That's why you spend more on military than any other European country on a per capita basis and that despite your fragile economy... That's right, arsefear can make a nation do crazy things. :D
 
@NickGr That's cute. But the fact of the matter is that Greece is barely even a sovereign country. It was "made up" at the weakest point of the Ottoman Empire by Western Powers. Prior to that it hadn't existed for centuries. You bunch have served as our slaves and bitches. Fast forward to today, Greece has proven itself to be a failed experiment because you lazy, corrupt fvcks are incapable of even running a small EU economy. Bailout after bailout failed. You are OWNED by the Germans today just as you were OWNED by the Turks back in the day.

As for Greece and alliances. LMAO! That's a good joke. Greece is a vassal state, a customer, a prostitute. It cannot form alliances. It is ordered to fight on its owners' side. Nothing more.

As for the Griks not "being scared". Hahhaha! Yeah right. That's why you spend more on military than any other European country on a per capita basis and that despite your fragile economy... That's right, arsefear can make a nation do crazy things. :D

Vord you seem to forget easily, not a long time ago(2001 for example) you were in a similar state with the inflation raging, the turkish lira collapsing and under the IMF and other western institutions help. It was the reforms from the IMF along with turkish economists ofc, that brought western foreign invenstments to Turkey and you recovered and prospered till now.
The "made up at the weakest point of the ottomans" tells me nothing, we have our own history long time ago, history which you even recognise, dating back from ancient Greece to macedonian and then hellenistic kingdoms, then conquered by romans and after its division to western and eastern, the latter was greek dominated. You recognised us so by calling us rums(stands for the eastern romans) or yunan(which dates back to the ionian people, who left ancient Athens, colonised Asia Minor coastal cities, so your complaints about our history should turn back to you.
An empire always confronts multiple enemies at once, the eastern roman(aka byzantine) empire for example wasn't confronting only seljuks and afterwards ottomans, but other enemies as well(bulgarians, russians, latins etc), you fell mostly from the inside(corruption, low productivity and incompetitive economy when others were making huge leaps, etc) just as the eastern roman did, most empires fall from the inside actually if you see it historically.
Greece as a "vassal state, customer and prostitute" chose the right alliances and fought on the winners side in the balkan wars, in WW1 and WW2 and increased its territory. Thank you for your kind words, they remind me the reasons why greeks revolted against the ottoman slavery and gained their independence. The fact that in the past we spent(even now are to a relatively big level even though cuts have been made) big time in military weapons is so as not to be afraid, the USSR(not a similar comparison, just to show the % of gdp argument) for example in the past was spending even more as a % of their gdp, could you say the USSR was afraid of anyone? Other european states after the Cold war spent a lot less and were able to develop their economies better, advantage which we couldn't have.
 
@Vord

Brother, seems Nick has much time and its his main job.
If you have too, you will for sure write at leat 4 DIN A4 pages

LOL. I have some time for sure, but very little of it can I waste on the hateful former subjects of the Ottoman Empire. We've got things to do. :)

@NickGr Okay, whatever you say sunshine... Let's agree to disagree. Clearly neither of us can change our views on each other's countries or history or geographical claims. So, as they say, I'll see ya out in the battlefield, hehe.

Gotta say though... It's good to have you guys around. I'm just glad to have Griks as our western neighbor than a more disciplined and cunning nation like the Germans or the Brits.
 
You will see our drilling begin Spring 2018. Zone 24 at Karpas.


Sometimes I believe you are cretegeorge from Waffer but writing moderate, cause here are other rules.
Either Turkish Cypriots will benefit from all what the South benefits or Greeks and Greek Cypriots will see the consequences.
BTW you can't demolish my friedship to Greeks and my symphaty. There are too much intelligent people who know what equal prosperity sharing is in Greek.
TODAY we wait crypto TSIPRAS put his feet on KARDAK.

I don't know who this Waffer is.
The Cyprus republic has openly said the turkishcypriots should benefit from the profits, they have also made a proposal for giving a percentage of the profits(i don't know how much and if they hase given a specific number, personally it would seem to me a fair percentage according to the ratio of the 1974, which was about 80 to 20% of original turkishcypriots, not including the turkish illegal settlers you brought after the invasion so as to alter that ratio), that they will get when the Cyprus issue is solved.
However this is not the matter, i believe Turkey isn't doing what she is doing for the turkishcypriots interest, all Turkey wants is oil for her own needs, so as to be more independent in energy..

It isn't in my intention to insult you in any way and i haven't used any insulting words.
It's true i have sympathy too for the turks, at least those i met in the coastal side of Turkey during my vacation(although we avoided talking about bilateral matters to be honest).
Having origin from western Thrace i would welcome any turkish tourist coming here for vacation and treat him as any greek friend of mine. But insults and threatening about "future projections that could happen in Thrace" as other turkish members have previously said or implied as well aren't friendly unfortunately..

LOL. I have some time for sure, but very little of it can I waste on the hateful former subjects of the Ottoman Empire. We've got things to do. :)

@NickGr Okay, whatever you say sunshine... Let's agree to disagree. Clearly neither of us can change our views on each other's countries or history or geographical claims. So, as they say, I'll see ya out in the battlefield, hehe.

Gotta say though... It's good to have you guys around. I'm just glad to have Griks as our western neighbor than a more disciplined and cunning nation like the Germans or the Brits.

I guess i' ll be waiting for you in Thrace and Aegean islands then, won't waste either a word for you.
 
Turks will never settle for anything less than 50%. And that's us being quite generous... You see, Northern Cyprus is already de facto a territory of Turkey, with de jure annexation remaining only as a formality. As things stand, Turks have access to 100% of the North's resources, which is a lot more than what the dumb and greedy South is offering.

As for the "Cyoriot" EEZ, we don't recognize it. The question then is can you ENFORCE your claims to your EEZ? And we both know that the answer is no, even with "partners" like Israel and Egypt. Neither of those nations will be willing to go to war with TURKEY for your sake.

So it boils down to this. You're risking war and total destruction of the Cypriot economy and possible land concessions just so that you don't pay the Turks of the island half the island's oil/gas income.

Hah. That's not only greed. That's stupid greed.
 
Turks will never settle for anything less than 50%. And that's us being quite generous... You see, Northern Cyprus is already de facto a territory of Turkey, with de jure annexation remaining only as a formality. As things stand, Turks have access to 100% of the North's resources, which is a lot more than what the dumb and greedy South is offering.

As for the "Cyoriot" EEZ, we don't recognize it. The question then is can you ENFORCE your claims to your EEZ? And we both know that the answer is no, even with "partners" like Israel and Egypt. Neither of those nations will be willing to go to war with TURKEY for your sake.

So it boils down to this. You're risking war and total destruction of the Cypriot economy and possible land concessions just so that you don't pay the Turks of the island half the island's oil/gas income.

Hah. That's not only greed. That's stupid greed.

I don't know why i still talk with you, but you don't seem to know a thing about international affairs.
I understand your need to enforce by military means your claims, because you have no legal argument to the matter of Cyprus EEZ. The illegally invaded northern part isn't territory of Turkey, not de facto or even de jure, it is considered a pseudostate which no country has recognised.

The population ratio before 1974 was exactly that 80 to 20 and that's the fair part in my opinion and only when the Cyprus issue is solved, that's not greed that's a fair share according to the population. If you had 1 turkishcypriot for example, would you still claim 50%, because there would be a greek and a turkish part, as you say?
We both know that french, israeli, italian warships are close to the area, we both know that you had threatened Cyprus with war in the past, at least the last 5 years, so that the initial drills didn't start at all.
And there are the drilling companies continuing as usually with licences granted from the Cyprus republic. The drilling will continue in their EEZ and if you want you can bombard their platforms, perhaps they will back down to your aggressive claims..
In my opinion, the problem would be if you put a drilling platform on the Cyprus EEZ, not just make researching drilling as you will do with your new ship, till then it's just a violation of Cyprus republic rights. If and when you make a platform and drill, pumping up oil, there would be a problem for Cyprus.
 
There's no such thing as "international law". It there was, nations wouldn't be spending trillions of dollars on defense annually. The reality of the matter is that you take what you can. As for EEZ, it is all about what you can enforce.

Long story short, Griks' mouths are writing checks that their azzes can't cash. Greece is too far off to the West to effectively fight a war with Turkey over Cyprus. And let's be honest, even if you could, Turkey would level you back to the stone age. A 10-million debt-laden nation can't win a war with an 80-million G20 nation.

So Turkey will enforce its own EEZ. It will search and drill and extract oil/gas as it pleases and as it's already doing. If you touch our ships or platforms or pipelines, we'll touch yours and a lot more along with that. We'd love for you to fire the first bullet. Like you say, molon labe.
 
My fellow Turks...

This sort of greed, hatred, barbarism and aggression displayed by even Grik civilians who visit this and other forums show exactly why we cannot afford to show any mercy in our next war with them. You saw how they just recently provided aid and asylum to FETO terrorists who attempted the coup in Turkey. These subhuman gypsies only understand hardball. We must attack and attack and attack until the very last of them falls down. No sympathy, no tolerance, no prisoners, no quarter. If we don't want this blasphemy to repeat in the future, every single one of them must be wiped off.

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My fellow Turks...

This sort of greed, hatred, barbarism and aggression displayed by even Grik civilians who visit this and other forums show exactly why we cannot afford to show any mercy in our next war with them. You saw how they just recently provided aid and asylum to FETO terrorists who attempted the coup in Turkey. These subhuman gypsies only understand hardball. We must attack and attack and attack until the very last of them falls down. No sympathy, no tolerance, no prisoners, no quarter. If we don't want this blasphemy to repeat in the future, every single one of them must be wiped off.

roketsan-idef-brochure.jpg


Brother, do you know where your enemies are ? Maybe in our beds.

 
You think way too simplistically, ofc military spending does have its importance, but international law also counts in order for stability to exist, even after 2 very destructive world wars, otherwise in a world of such destructive weapons(including nuclear weapons for the big powers who have them at least) we would have become ashes long ago. International law also was made to serve the big powers interests, but as a "collateral damage" smaller countries interests are also served in a smaller case, what's more alliances play a bigger part, try to get out of NATO for example and hit Greece, what you think is going to happen?
Ofc on first thought the other countries would be reluctant to fight a war, but if they didn't help their member in need, the whole alliance would be crumbled and be torn apart afterwards, the other countries would also think they should get out, since its members are not trully protected.

What's more in Cyprus case, you think you can take the whole island by military means, but remember what i said previously about Cyprus and how you invaded it serving the british and american interests, noone will ever get the whole island, even all if the greekcypriots magically abandoned the island and didn't fight, the british and americans would find even in that case a way that you can't have it, you went there because it was part of the plan.
Till now Turkey hasn't drilled and hasn't put a platform in Cyprus EEZ. With the new ship you got i think you can make research drilling, but first you need to find worthwhile quantities of oil and natural gas and then put a drilling platform and start extracting oil, which will take some years. Till then we'll see, i think you will get reasonable and stay as you are..
 

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