Greater Cooperation between The Russian Navy and the Japanese Maritime Self Defense Forces

[Aepsilons]

This thread will be a platform to illustrate the growing, evolving, defense paradigm regarding the cooperation of Russia's and Japan's Naval Forces. I will aim to define the goals of the respective nations' naval forces, and compare the Japanese-Russian Branches from suprastructures to microstructures of inventory-personnel.

 

[Aepsilons]

The Organization of the Russian Navy

• Russian Northern Fleet

• Russian Baltic Fleet

• Russian Black Sea Fleet

• Russian Pacific Fleet

Russian Combined Total Fleet Power:

1 aircraft carrier, 22 landing ship tanks, 4 cruisers, 15 destroyers, 11 frigates, 78 corvettes, 48 submarines, 34 mine countermeasure ships.

Naval Infantry: 133,000
Navy Aircraft: 254

 

[[Bregs]]

some great realignment of relationship is happening

 

[Spectre]

some great realignment of relationship is happening

No, there is no such re alignment with regards to Russia-Japan with all due respect to my friend @Nihonjin1051

What we see is a holding action.

Regards

 

[Aepsilons]

No, there is no such re alignment with regards to Russia-Japan with all due respect to my friend @Nihonjin1051

What we see is a holding action.

Regards

1. Policy wise, Japan is slowly integrating with Russia ; energy wise, and to a growing extent --- defense and patrol wise.
2. Russia is a permanent physical and cultural fixture in North Asia; it is a reality that Japanese policy makers will and must accept and hopefully can adopt more pro-Japan-Russia initiatives to help stabilize Japanese-Russian Nexus.

 

[[Bregs]]

No, there is no such re alignment with regards to Russia-Japan with all due respect to my friend @Nihonjin1051

What we see is a holding action.

Regards

But we will continue to see such alignment between more and more newer countries

 

[Aepsilons]

some great realignment of relationship is happening

Yes, there is a greater integration and cooperation between the Japanese Coast Guard, Russian Coast Guard; and recently the JMSDF and the Russian Navy. We also have to understand the historical context and see that even before Japan adopted a pro-America stance in the 1980s, Japan and the USSR had 'cooperated' in various parameters. I shall discuss this in this thread. But permit me to continue on posting structural information of the RUSSIAN NAVY and JMSDF, first.



Thanks!

But we will continue to see such alignment between more and more newer countries

Of course. This has always been integral to Japan's Policy of Omnidirectionality.

 

[Jlaw]

@Nihonjin1051 Please change the title to reflect your series of posts : "INTO THE ARMS OF THE RISING SUN...."

 

[Keel]

Knowing thy enemy:

Russia says Kurils which Japan thinks is Japanese territory is not up for discussion

Ancient Chinese Art of Paper Folding

@Nihonjin1051 Please change the title to reflect your series of posts : "INTO THE ARMS OF THE RISING SUN...."

yea it is funny
I remember there is a particular "Chinese Wasabi" who liked it

 

[大汉奸柳传志]

@Nihonjin1051 Please change the title to reflect your series of posts : "INTO THE ARMS OF THE RISING SUN...."

Russia stretches over 11 time zones.. Even the real sun has a hard time embracing the entire Russia, let alone a fake one.

 

[Aepsilons]

Organization of the Japanese Maritime Self Defense Force

• 1st Escort Flotilla

• 2nd Escort Flotilla

• 3rd Escort Flotilla

• 4th Escort Flotilla

Total Fleet Component: Personnel strength: 50,000, Total Ships: 124, Total Maritime Aircraft: 334

 

[Spectre]

1. Policy wise, Japan is slowly integrating with Russia ; energy wise, and to a growing extent --- defense and patrol wise.
2. Russia is a permanent physical and cultural fixture in North Asia; it is a reality that Japanese policy makers will and must accept and hopefully can adopt more pro-Japan-Russia initiatives to help stabilize Japanese-Russian Nexus.

Permit to indulge myself for a while and at the end of post you might see my point.

Imagine a country is like a amorphous entity having thousands of tentacles (interests) .

Now Imagine that entity in a dimly lit room with 100 other such entities. The room has some areas where the visibility is great and some areas where you can hardly see what's infront of you.

Now Imagine each of the tentacles have a limited capacity of independent thought but operate largely within the directives of the amorphous entity.

This is the world of Global Politics. At any given time you might see few tentacles of an entity interacting with few tentacles of a 1 entity in light while in some dark corner few other tentacles would be interacting with tentacles of 2nd entity and so on and so forth.

The point is everything is multi-dimensional, lot of things are happening simultaneously and it might appear there are certain contradictions. This is because tentacles have some capacity of independent thought would act on their interest. But the brain of the amorphous entity is the guiding hand, it doesn't mind low key interactions for mutual benefit but there is over-all guiding principle which it enforces and all tentacles have to follow.

 

[Aepsilons]

Permit to indulge myself for a while and at the end of post you might see my point.

Imagine a country is like a amorphous entity having thousands of tentacles (interests) .

Now Imagine that entity in a dimly lit room with 100 other such entities. The room has some areas where the visibility is great and some areas where you can hardly see what's infront of you.

Now Imagine each of the tentacles have a limited capacity of independent thought but operate largely within the directives of the amorphous entity.

This is the world of Global Politics. At any given time you might see few tentacles of an entity interacting with few tentacles of a 1 entity in light while in some dark corner few other tentacles would be interacting with tentacles of 2nd entity and so on and so forth.

The point is everything is multi-dimensional, lot of things are happening simultaneously and it might appear there are certain contradictions. This is because tentacles have some capacity of independent thought would act on their interest. But the brain of the amorphous entity is the guiding hand, it doesn't mind low key interactions for mutual benefit but there is over-all guiding principle which it enforces and all tentacles have to follow.

Yes, quite multidimensional, indeed.

 

[rott]

@vostok to @Nihonjin1051
Just go kill yourself.

 

[IsaacNewton]

There are key structural problems with Russia Japan relationship. It will never be a close relationship.

1) Japan is a close ally of the US, and Russia has been, and most likely continue to be US main geopolitical Rival.

2) Territorial dispute

3) Rivalry over influence in Korea (Just Kidding). The era of sphere of influence is dead in this globalized world. I believe Japan's main interest is nolonger to colonialize all of Asia, that Japan is dead. Rather it is to construct fair mutually beneficial bilateral relations with the world. Russia's is still stuck with a imperialism/expansionism mindset which is ultimately antithetical to Japan's global interest that conflicts should be resolved based on international law.