Government will collapse if I present evidence: Qadir

[Hiptullha]

Government will collapse if I present evidence: Qadir

Governance & Politics

By
Khwaja Basir Fitri
On
Dec 02, 2015 - 15:59
KABUL (Pajhwok): The Wolesi Jirga deputy speaker on Wednesday said the government might collapse if he presented evidenceof the National Security Council’s support for the Islamic State (IS) -- also known as Daesh.

On November 23, Zahir Qadir, told a general session of the lower house that Daesh leaders were living in Kabul under the patronage of the NSC. He had accused the government of aiding the dreaded militant outfit.

Qadir had also rejected claims that Afghan security forces had killed a large number of Daesh fighters in eastern Nangarhar province, saying the IS rebels had been killed by local people.

But his claims were rejected by the council, as well as the Ministry of Interior. President Ashraf Ghani has already appointed a delegation to investigate the deputy speaker’s assertions.

A number of lawmakers came up with angry reactions to Qadir’s allegations and asked the government to thoroughly investigate his claims.

But Qadir, showing the lawmakers a CD, said, “I have evidences on this tape in support of my claims. But if I present proofs, the government may fall. Since I don’t want the government to fall, I hold back this evidence,”

But legislator from Nangarhar province indicated his readiness to produce the information before an organisation that had the ability to scrutinise it properly, not before the commission appointed by the president.

He demanded a change in the leadership of security forces, saying he had never tried, and would never do so in the future, to weaken the morale of the security personnel.

Qadir formally announced the creation of an anti-Taliban uprising group in the Shinwari area of Nangarhar. He acknowledged his personal involvement in the creation of the local militia.

The security situation had significantly improved after the militia was raised in the Shinwari region, he added, asking the government to support the group and form more militias in the framework of the ministry concerned.

Government will collapse if I present evidence,: Qadir | Pajhwok Afghan News

 

[Hiptullha]

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[A-Team]

@A-Team @The Vicious Kind @pakistani342 @ArsalanKhan21

Internal politics PS : he is a moron

 

[pakdefender]

Perhaps the sitting afghan government is now betting on Daesh as a counter weight to Taliban , recent clashes between Taliban and Deash also point towards this

 

[rubyjackass]

Why does the guy raise his own militia when there is Afghan army?

 

[Hiptullha]

Why does the guy raise his own militia when there is Afghan army?

The ANA is for drug-trafficking and receiving money from the US which will go on to be laundered. Militias are for fighting.

 

[rubyjackass]

The ANA is for drug-trafficking and receiving money from the US which will go on to be laundered. Militias are for fighting.

Or this guy is still having hangover from the warlord days.

 

[pakistani342]

@A-Team @The Vicious Kind @pakistani342 @ArsalanKhan21

IMHO, I don't think Zahir Qadir has anything that would meet the standard of proof by legal standard, further I cannot think what underlying motivation the Afghan NSC would have to encourage ISIS in Afghanistan. Afghanistan is in a deep mess, I doubt it any actor in power has anything to gain by the rise of ISIS.

Now here are some interesting things that do kind of rhyme with this story. If you read this article penned by two very respected Afghan journalists: "Ali M. Latifi and Mohammed Harun Arsalai" on the LATimes, "Afghanistan's precarious security has officials pointing fingers", you will find the following excerpt:

-- "This is all Atmar's game," he said of the foreign presence in Afghanistan.

I think as the situation becomes more desperate, people are beginning to fear their shadows. So most plausibly a case of hysteria and paranoia.

 

[Hiptullha]

IMHO, I don't think Zahir Qadir has anything that would meet the standard of proof by legal standard, further I cannot think what underlying motivation the Afghan NSC would have to encourage ISIS in Afghanistan. Afghanistan is in a deep mess, I doubt it any actor in power has anything to gain by the rise of ISIS.

Counter the Taliban maybe?
Maybe like in Iraq, the top brass of ISIS is dominated by greedy generals and warlords using religion to further their own interests. I mean, if the Taliban was enough to force the bitter rivals, Dostum and Massoud to join forces together, then I don't see why it wouldn't force the Afghan government to strengthen a counter to the Taliban like ISIS.

 

[desimorty]

Counter the Taliban maybe?
Maybe like in Iraq, the top brass of ISIS is dominated by greedy generals and warlords using religion to further their own interests. I mean, if the Taliban was enough to force the bitter rivals, Dostum and Massoud to join forces together, then I don't see why it wouldn't force the Afghan government to strengthen a counter to the Taliban like ISIS.

Source: Government will collapse if I present evidence: Qadir

Not a counter. You just need to talk to all the militants as well as shoot them. It takes both process at the peace table.
So bitch slap, and firm handshake and then they negotiate.

 

[pakistani342]

Counter the Taliban maybe?
Maybe like in Iraq, the top brass of ISIS is dominated by greedy generals and warlords using religion to further their own interests. I mean, if the Taliban was enough to force the bitter rivals, Dostum and Massoud to join forces together, then I don't see why it wouldn't force the Afghan government to strengthen a counter to the Taliban like ISIS.

mmm it's an interesting point: an attempt to fragment the movement. I personally don't understand the subject enough to really add anything useful. The only thing as a layman I can say is that complicated schemes have a more difficult time seeing the light of days. Hanif Atmar is a smart and competent man, but the reality of Afghanistan has defeated many smart men.

Anyway whatever the truth, it seems the people of Afghanistan are probably in for more suffering and bloodshed.

 

[Hiptullha]

The only thing as a layman I can say is that complicated schemes have a more difficult time seeing the light of days.

I wouldn't say this is very complicated. Very similar to what we did in Afghanistan. Hand a bunch of insurgents weapons. Watch them shoot at your enemies. Then swoop in when the battle is over and take charge.

 

[pakistani342]

I wouldn't say this is very complicated. Very similar to what we did in Afghanistan. Hand a bunch of insurgents weapons. Watch them shoot at your enemies. Then swoop in when the battle is over and take charge.

mmm, I guess I can just think of what is happening in Iraq and Syria, it's been a loose loose situation for everybody except ISIS.

Anyhow, I really don't know enough to comment on this point.