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Government cannot be market’s babysitter
2015-7-4 0:33:01

Chinese stocks tumbled again on Friday, with the Shanghai Composite Index falling 5.77 percent to below 3,700 points. A-share stocks have plummeted nearly 30 percent in the past three weeks. Huge losses have been inflicted on many individual investors who had recently entered the market.

The government has been sending out strong messages that it will bail out the market over the past few days. But given the ongoing free-fall, the government's power seems to be not as great as previously expected.

It only proves that no one can effectively control the stock market. Too many forces are at work in the gigantic Chinese market, which has resulted in great unpredictability.

Voices that call for government interference have been emerging over the past few days. But a market is a market, and people's emotional cries may not be able to play a decisive role in influencing the course of events.

The fundamental reason behind the market meltdown lies in the bubble caused by its unusual surge. The government may be able to calm people down through strong interventionist measures. But the speculative bubbles are unlikely to be properly digested.

Some investors have insisted that the government is the one who can least tolerate a market stumble, and therefore it will definitely take action before the market gets even worse. Such expectations are one of the reasons the market often goes out of control - its own self-adjustment capability has become sluggish.

We believe the government's management of the stock market should be based on market measures that are consistent with international practices. The government will not be able to babysit the market forever.

The fluctuations of China's stock market are not because it is overly mature, but because it is too rudimentary and unable to cope with excessive speculation. A series of problems have been exposed by the recent sharp price drops, such as some listed companies' executives collectively selling their shares, or investors' illegal use of marginal selling leverages.

Of course, if the market shows signs of getting out of control, the government will have to resolutely step in.

The current plunge has not hurt China's financial system, nor its basic economic operations. Most investors who entered the market before March are able to sustain the losses caused by the recent fluctuations. They have not lost hope, they are still biding their time.

The future of China's stock market lies in further marketization, not a "policy bull." The authorities should crack down on the manipulations that upset the market, and make the market a place for fair play.
 
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Chinese govt should not control the market. This might be a small setback but in long run wouldn't make much difference.
A control on the other hand might lead to a bigger problem later.
 
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U should prepare for the dark future when u lose your job bcz of TPP, if u still dont have any kids, then stop having one now coz it will make your life get even worse due to the living cost in CN will become so high soon :pop:

You have a very high bet on TPP. Let's see Japan will see the stark reality as obviously as you do.
 
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Hehe, buddy, you want making rational argue with that vietcong? wasting time, useless, he is in the dream, he always repeat these statement again and again, very absurd!
Yeah, I always repeat these statement again and again and sadly, it is Happening like what I always say: CN economy is collapsing, investors r leaving CN due to TPP and it bring chaos to Cn stock market :pop:
 
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Chinese stocks tumbled again on Friday, with the Shanghai Composite Index falling 5.77 percent to below 3,700 points. A-share stocks have plummeted nearly 30 percent in the past three weeks. Huge losses have been inflicted on many individual investors who had recently entered the market.

Why on earth would they enter the market in the past few month when everything from historical trend to warning form CCTV-1 and people's daily all said the stock market price is going to come down? It is likely seeing big flaming letter of "don't push the big red button" and pressed it anyway". It is rather exasperating.
 
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if investors dont use leverage, they will recover from this setback. china's stock market is undervalued comparing to US and EU. both us and eu's economies are stagnating at best yet their stocks are at historic highs. while china is still the fastest growing major economy in the world but its stocks are still almost 50% below its all time high.
 
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I ran at the highest point, nearly four times of my initial investments.
 
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I agree, Chinese government should not enter this market. By trying to solve one problem, they will create 10 other problems. Then to solve those 10 other problems, they will create 100 other problems.

Stock markets are not very important in China. When it goes up or down, its overall impact on the real economy is not very big.
 
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Why on earth would they enter the market in the past few month when everything from historical trend to warning form CCTV-1 and people's daily all said the stock market price is going to come down? It is likely seeing big flaming letter of "don't push the big red button" and pressed it anyway". It is rather exasperating.

I guess it is initial learning process, and, given China's sheer size, its dimensions could easily look ginarmous. China's media as well as officials has indeed kept cautioning people but probably they were over-excited and optimistic. Nonetheless, the majority will easily weather it because Chinese society is still one of the highest saving (real) society. And our economy is real economy, being the world's largest manufacturer.
 
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Government cannot be market’s babysitter
2015-7-4 0:33:01

Chinese stocks tumbled again on Friday, with the Shanghai Composite Index falling 5.77 percent to below 3,700 points. A-share stocks have plummeted nearly 30 percent in the past three weeks. Huge losses have been inflicted on many individual investors who had recently entered the market.

The government has been sending out strong messages that it will bail out the market over the past few days. But given the ongoing free-fall, the government's power seems to be not as great as previously expected.

It only proves that no one can effectively control the stock market. Too many forces are at work in the gigantic Chinese market, which has resulted in great unpredictability.

Voices that call for government interference have been emerging over the past few days. But a market is a market, and people's emotional cries may not be able to play a decisive role in influencing the course of events.

The fundamental reason behind the market meltdown lies in the bubble caused by its unusual surge. The government may be able to calm people down through strong interventionist measures. But the speculative bubbles are unlikely to be properly digested.

Some investors have insisted that the government is the one who can least tolerate a market stumble, and therefore it will definitely take action before the market gets even worse. Such expectations are one of the reasons the market often goes out of control - its own self-adjustment capability has become sluggish.

We believe the government's management of the stock market should be based on market measures that are consistent with international practices. The government will not be able to babysit the market forever.

The fluctuations of China's stock market are not because it is overly mature, but because it is too rudimentary and unable to cope with excessive speculation. A series of problems have been exposed by the recent sharp price drops, such as some listed companies' executives collectively selling their shares, or investors' illegal use of marginal selling leverages.

Of course, if the market shows signs of getting out of control, the government will have to resolutely step in.

The current plunge has not hurt China's financial system, nor its basic economic operations. Most investors who entered the market before March are able to sustain the losses caused by the recent fluctuations. They have not lost hope, they are still biding their time.

The future of China's stock market lies in further marketization, not a "policy bull." The authorities should crack down on the manipulations that upset the market, and make the market a place for fair play.

Like I said before, if you use margin to buy stock, you're fucked. If you buy because your hair salon guy tell you he's got a great stock tip--you're also fucked.

Let this be a lesson. Stay out of the market and let people with disposable income and professionals gamble. Little potatoes with average annual income of $15,000 US should stay out.

I agree, Chinese government should not enter this market. By trying to solve one problem, they will create 10 other problems. Then to solve those 10 other problems, they will create 100 other problems.

Stock markets are not very important in China. When it goes up or down, its overall impact on the real economy is not very big.

Actually stock market does not impact the real economy. Real economy have little correlation with stock market. Look at US stock market (dow jones) or example and you will know what I mean.

Why on earth would they enter the market in the past few month when everything from historical trend to warning form CCTV-1 and people's daily all said the stock market price is going to come down? It is likely seeing big flaming letter of "don't push the big red button" and pressed it anyway". It is rather exasperating.
profesionals and big institutions make their money off of these amateurs. The sharks have waited long enough and swallowed these little fishes.
 
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Like I said before, if you use margin to buy stock, you're fucked. If you buy because your hair salon guy tell you he's got a great stock tip--you're also fucked.

Let this be a lesson. Stay out of the market and let people with disposable income and professionals gamble. Little potatoes with average annual income of $15,000 US should stay out.



Actually stock market does not impact the real economy. Real economy have little correlation with stock market. Look at US stock market (dow jones) or example and you will know what I mean.


profesionals and big institutions make their money off of these amateurs. The sharks have waited long enough and swallowed these little fishes.
I sold all my shares at the highest.
This crazy trend should be stopped, even the doorman of my apartment has bought some.
Learn some lesson, for those newbies, no free money.
 
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I sold all my shares at the highest.
This crazy trend should be stopped, even the doorman of my apartment has bought some.
Learn some lesson, for those newbies, no free money.
i've been investing in stock markets since 2000, learned some hard lessons but after four years start making consistent returns. All my friends not in market anymore because they all got slaughtered in 2000 tech bust, 2001 9/11, and 2008 financial crisis.

good for you that you sold it before this.

:cheers:
 
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