Gota says will run for president, tackle radical Islam

[Godman]

Did it really work? You fought a civil war for 25 years+ against a minority group who number about 15% of your population. Sure you won the war in the end but that doesn't mean your methods were good or even effective.

Some people in this forum support a lot of crap. Just look above, we have a Pakistani (probably a muslim too) openly supporting chinese oppression of uighurs muslims. So having the forum support of sri lankans members means nothing, having support alone doesn't mean something is right.

The war ended early because of the said tactics. Terrorists don't care about Human rights so their Human Rights doesn't matter

 

[Mamadouso]

Why not. It brought Peace & Prosperity & eliminated extremism.

What extremism was there, can you give examples? And you were very upset the other day about Muslim ‘oppressions’ but here you are supporting mass detention, force feeding alcohol, organ harvesting?

 

[Rusty]

Why do you need to do all this?
Muslims themselves reported terrorists and the government did nothing.


Maybe they should have re-education camps for politicians on how to not be corrupt and act on Intel.

 

[Numerous]

The war ended early because of the said tactics. Terrorists don't care about Human rights so their Human Rights doesn't matter

The war ended early? You fought a war against a minority for 25 years. How is that early? I can think of several wars over the last 50 years which were much shorter than that.

Lol terrorists. Sure some people are terrorists. But for the most part, the one's who tend to go into these secret jails and be tortured tend to be innocent. We've seen the same thing in Iraq, Afghanistan & Syria. We're seeing the same thing in UAE secret prisons in yemen right now.

 

[Godman]

The war ended early? You fought a war against a minority for 25 years. How is that early? I can think of several wars over the last 50 years which were much shorter than that.

Lol terrorists. Sure some people are terrorists. But for the most part, the one's who tend to go into these secret jails and be tortured tend to be innocent. We've seen the same thing in Iraq, Afghanistan & Syria. We're seeing the same thing in UAE secret prisons in yemen right

The LTTE was militarily defeated in less than 3 years. Much shorter than other wars against the LTTE and only a few months more than the IPKF presence in SL who failed to wipe out the LTTE anyway

 

[Numerous]

The LTTE was militarily defeated in less than 3 years. Much shorter than other wars against the LTTE and only a few months more than the IPKF presence in SL who failed to wipe out the LTTE anyway

The military campaign lasted for about 26 years.

Is google lying to me or do you not know your country's recent history?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sri_Lankan_Civil_War

 

[Mamadouso]

The LTTE was militarily defeated in less than 3 years. Much shorter than other wars against the LTTE and only a few months more than the IPKF presence in SL who failed to wipe out the LTTE anyway

The LTTE was very nasty. I am glad they are defeated and people shouldn’t confuse them as just a ‘minority group’.

I just hope there is no knee-jerk reaction against SL Muslim conmunity now. The mosques have refused to take their bodies of the terrorists and declared them unwanted, it just needs community to share intelligence etc no crackdown needed

 

[Numerous]

The LTTE was very nasty. I am glad they are defeated and people shouldn’t confuse them as just a ‘minority group’.

I just hope there is no knee-jerk reaction against SL Muslim conmunity now. The mosques have refused to take their bodies of the terrorists and declared them unwanted, it just needs community to share intelligence etc no crackdown needed

Oh na bro, I'm not saying they are a powerless minority or anything like that.

I'm just talking about the number of tamils in sri lankan and how even though they were small in number, a group from them was able to fight for such a long time against the sri lankan government in a civil war.

 

[Godman]

The military campaign lasted for about 26 years.

Is google lying to me or do you not know your country's recent history?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sri_Lankan_Civil_War

I am pretty sure thats not 26 years
26 July 2006 – 18 May 2009
(2 years, 9 months, 3 weeks and 1 day)

 

[Numerous]

I am pretty sure thats not 26 years
26 July 2006 – 18 May 2009
(2 years, 9 months, 3 weeks and 1 day)

I think you are talking about just one phase of the war. The page says 1983-2009.

 

[Godman]

I think you are talking about just one phase of the war. The page says 1983-2009.

It's not just a mere phase of the war. The "Sri Lankan Civil War" consists of four wars by Sri Lankan Government against the LTTE as well as one between the first and second that was fought between India and proxies against the LTTE after falling out.

The fourth one was at the height of the LTTE's power when they had entire fleet of weapon trafficking ships, weapon factories and shipyards as well as a global funding network, sleeper cells across Sri Lanka, TV and radio channels. They even mined the coast making amphibious operations quite hard and developed weapons and tactics to counter conventional navies with minimum resources
http://www.hisutton.com/LTTE Sea Tigers sneak attack craft and midget subs.html

It was during this war Gotabhaya was present

 

[Saradiel]

Oh na bro, I'm not saying they are a powerless minority or anything like that.

I'm just talking about the number of tamils in sri lankan and how even though they were small in number, a group from them was able to fight for such a long time against the sri lankan government in a civil war.

Can you please tell me what the right way is, in tackling a separatist organisation that uses terroristic methods listed as the most ruthless terrorist org ( even surpassing Al Qaeda) by FBI which has killed more than 3000 people in your cities by suicide bombing, massacred civilians in border villages and killed your President, important ministers in your government? Do you have any other way in tackling it? We did not wage war, war was upon us.

We took 30 years to end the war with LTTE for several reasons. One, We had a ceremonial armed force when the war initially started. In 80s when we had only 10000-25000 strong army, LTTE had 30000 cardes. Two, Tamils are not a small minority, they are a significant minority being 15% of the population. And India which has a much larger Tamil population which is 4 times that of the Sri Lankan population next to Sri Lanka bordering the war zone. And as everyone knows India did intervene militarily and politically in favor of the LTTE. So at one point Sri Lanka was facing weight of India along with LTTE. Since 94, our government was a peace talks oriented government. Sri Lanka wasted its opportunities going after peace talks which LTTE ditched everytime with an attack against the SLn state. Our policy was to go for peace talks and always get deceived by the LTTE.

The extent to which SLn government put blind faith on LTTE can be shown in 1990, Policemen death incident https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1990_massacre_of_Sri_Lankan_Police_officers
In 1990, president Premadasa started peace talks with LTTE. LTTE top members were invited into Colombo and were given top treatment by the government in a hotel in Colombo. When LTTE members were in Colombo, and government was carrying out peace talks, LTTE surrounded all the police stations in Eastern province and demanded surrender. After getting to know the situation, idiotic irrational SLG ordered 650 policemen in East to surrender to LTTE thinking they would not harm them. Because it was a period of peace talks. What did LTTE do? They killed all the surrendered 650 policemen when government was talking peace. That was how our second attempt at peace talks failed. Our stupid gov did not stop at that. We continued to have talks and ended up with an egg on the face. So there was no policy level decision, strategic plan and political leadership to tackle LTTE terrorism. Only in 2006 this changed and the new government took only 3 years to finish it off.

And most importantly we are NOT at war with any minority now. For the first time in history we are taking steps to tackle Radical Islam. We are nipping the problem in the bud ( hopefully) and Muslims are supporting these steps. That is exactly why we have been successful in finding safe houses of terrorists and raid these people. What everyone in SL wants, including Muslims is freedom to live practicing whatever their religion without any harm from anyone.

Sri Lanka has given complete freedom when it comes to practicing their religion. This is from a Sri Lankan Muslim.
https://twitter.com/search?q=Muslim Sri Lanka&src=typd&lang=en

The biggest Shariah university in Asia being built in Sri Lanka with Saudi money, which has irked many in the country.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1121223138761555968

Sri Lanka allows Muslim only schools, private Shariah banking ( not available even in India with 200 million Muslims), Quasi courts, Muslim marriage laws with 4 wives, marrying under 12 permitted. Sri Lanka has no check on how Saudi funds are spent in SL. Sri Lanka did not have any idea when the terrorist group, National Thawheed Jamath functioned under its very nose radicalizing youth. So we need to build our intelligence field again (Since 2015, January we did not have a defence ministry and intelligence services were not working), share intel from countries that suffer from Islamic radicalisation and save the country from this menace. We are not going for war, as we need not.

And there are powerful Muslim ministers in the government who are rumored to have aided these organisations but survive because of vote bank politics in the country. We need to fix these things.

 

[Mamadouso]

Can you please tell me what the right way is, in tackling a separatist organisation that uses terroristic methods listed as the most ruthless terrorist org ( even surpassing Al Qaeda) by FBI which has killed more than 3000 people in your cities by suicide bombing, massacred civilians in border villages and killed your President, important ministers in your government? Do you have any other way in tackling it? We did not wage war, war was upon us.

We took 30 years to end the war with LTTE for several reasons. One, We had a ceremonial armed force when the war initially started. In 80s when we had only 10000-25000 strong army, LTTE had 30000 cardes. Two, Tamils are not a small minority, they are a significant minority being 15% of the population. And India which has a much larger Tamil population which is 4 times that of the Sri Lankan population next to Sri Lanka bordering the war zone. And as everyone knows India did intervene militarily and politically in favor of the LTTE. So at one point Sri Lanka was facing weight of India along with LTTE. Since 94, our government was a peace talks oriented government. Sri Lanka wasted its opportunities going after peace talks which LTTE ditched everytime with an attack against the SLn state. Our policy was to go for peace talks and always get deceived by the LTTE.

The extent to which SLn government put blind faith on LTTE can be shown in 1990, Policemen death incident https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1990_massacre_of_Sri_Lankan_Police_officers
In 1990, president Premadasa started peace talks with LTTE. LTTE top members were invited into Colombo and were given top treatment by the government in a hotel in Colombo. When LTTE members were in Colombo, and government was carrying out peace talks, LTTE surrounded all the police stations in Eastern province and demanded surrender. After getting to know the situation, idiotic irrational SLG ordered 650 policemen in East to surrender to LTTE thinking they would not harm them. Because it was a period of peace talks. What did LTTE do? They killed all the surrendered 650 policemen when government was talking peace. That was how our second attempt at peace talks failed. Our stupid gov did not stop at that. We continued to have talks and ended up with an egg on the face. So there was no policy level decision, strategic plan and political leadership to tackle LTTE terrorism. Only in 2006 this changed and the new government took only 3 years to finish it off.

And most importantly we are NOT at war with any minority now. For the first time in history we are taking steps to tackle Radical Islam. We are nipping the problem in the bud ( hopefully) and Muslims are supporting these steps. That is exactly why we have been successful in finding safe houses of terrorists and raid these people. What everyone in SL wants, including Muslims is freedom to live practicing whatever their religion without any harm from anyone.

Sri Lanka has given complete freedom when it comes to practicing their religion. This is from a Sri Lankan Muslim.
https://twitter.com/search?q=Muslim Sri Lanka&src=typd&lang=en

The biggest Shariah university in Asia being built in Sri Lanka with Saudi money, which has irked many in the country.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1121223138761555968

Sri Lanka allows Muslim only schools, private Shariah banking ( not available even in India with 200 million Muslims), Quasi courts, Muslim marriage laws with 4 wives, marrying under 12 permitted. Sri Lanka has no check on how Saudi funds are spent in SL. Sri Lanka did not have any idea when the terrorist group, National Thawheed Jamath functioned under its very nose radicalizing youth. So we need to build our intelligence field again (Since 2015, January we did not have a defence ministry and intelligence services were not working), share intel from countries that suffer from Islamic radicalisation and save the country from this menace. We are not going for war, as we need not.

And there are powerful Muslim ministers in the government who are rumored to have aided these organisations but survive because of vote bank politics in the country. We need to fix these things.

I have been reading lately and Sri Lanka is most fair govt of S.Asia for religious diversity. It is a credit to the country - Muslim S Lankans seem very patriotic. It has a different culture than the other S. Asia countries.

 

[Godman]