Germany to promote automobile companies’ share in Pakistani market

[Faiez]

Once CPEC operational ecnomic and enery potential increase and stability in our decisions and mindsets will not only germany all automobiles will invezt in pak just need to keep head straight

I am wish to you the best luck of learn good english fastly. I am pray that you are become succeeded in your challenge ambition.

 

[!eon]

Our auto policy is skewed yet at the same time, is absolutely necessary. It is a worrying paradox. Although vehicles are priced much higher than the global average owing to exorbitant taxes and import tariffs, Pakistan retains one of the highest automobile ownership rates in the region which means greater load on government infrastructure and an enormous loss to the national balance of export in terms of fuel imports.
I can only imagine what the situation will be like if the duty, almost 200% in some cases, is revised, there will be so many cars on the roads that we will just be stuck in traffic jams and go nowhere all day.

But reduction in import duty will result in import of fuel efficient vehicles. Today, People are stuck with their old cars having huge fuel consumption and worst emission. Actually, the number of vehicles will remain same, old ones will be replaced be new models.
My Mazda CX 5 has almost same fuel consumption as Suzuki Mehran and yet many times better emission, one is compact SUV and other is small category salon.
As for prices, Dacia Logan is offered in same price as Mehran, but Mehran has no comparison with Logan.

 

[Blue Marlin]

right now import tax is very high to import brand new car.. can't afford it..
right hand

ok cool. i dont drive. what about audi's from india? they build them there dont they just go to india and drive it home to got to china

One can easily Find A6 2.0 TSFI in 7.5 million PKR from the dealers here so why import it... ?

Right Hand Drive....

Really Want VW and Renault to Come to Pakistan they are manufacturing in India....

2 litre Audi? nah i wont bother with a two litre engine for a car of that size. a 3 litre diesel s-line is what you want also make sure its a quarto. most audis are quartos but you never know.

 

[Icarus]

But reduction in import duty will result in import of fuel efficient vehicles. Today, People are stuck with their old cars having huge fuel consumption and worst emission. Actually, the number of vehicles will remain same, old ones will be replaced be new models.
My Mazda CX 5 has almost same fuel consumption as Suzuki Mehran and yet many times better emission, one is compact SUV and other is small category salon.
As for prices, Dacia Logan is offered in same price as Mehran, but Mehran has no comparison with Logan.

True but owing to the culture of excess, the number of cars will also go up exponentially. As it is, most households try to obtain a second car after having procured their first one. Roads are jam packed, I prefer to commute by bike for the express reason that I can navigate traffic much faster and avoid having to remain stuck on the same traffic stop for several minutes.
The prime reason behind this is a lack of policy framework and and proactive legislation. In keeping with the rest of the world, cars should be cheap, it must be the insurance and the addition to your tax that must keep people from just going on a buying spree.

 

[Bombaywalla]

I think car manufacturers like Renault and Geely (Although Geely tried once) must enter Pakistan. About VW, I am not sure keeping in mind the prices and expensive servicing.

It's not expensive when you consider an approximate once-a-year-service cycle.

 

[Path-Finder]

VW scandal was a shock didn't expect it from VW and what more in UK and most of Europe Diesel cars are everywhere and now it is a danger to everyone. At a time when I was about to purchase my first Diesel car as well not happy about it one bit! looks like will have to hold on for a bit longer.

I hope BMW come to Pakistan with official dealerships including BMW Motorrad so at least if I take a BMW bike there then I can get official service and parts.

 

[I S I]

Hopefully it will be fixed in the new auto policy.

New auto policy is the best example of "Lipstick on a Pig". It is made to profit existing mafia more than anything else.


Don't get your hopes up bro.

 

[New World]

ok cool. i dont drive. what about audi's from india? they build them there dont they just go to india and drive it home to got to china

too risky for a pakistani to go in india, india is bad place for foreigners..
even importing from india is too expensive..

 

[Blue Marlin]

too risky for a pakistani to go in india, india is bad place for foreigners..
even importing from india is too expensive..

go to china in stead. if you say you came from pakistan, they may knock a bit of discount, and if you dont have a job and quiet a bit of money then get a franchise.

 

[Skywalker]

if Audi launched pak then i will buy Audi a6 saloon

Arey Bhaijaan Audi already have showrooms in Pakistan, last I remember they launched A7 about a year back in a grand ceremony in mohatta palace, Karachi. When they gonna decide to manusfacture it locally that's another issue.

At least they are not cheating. VW programmed their car computers so that when the cars were being tested for emissions they detected it and gave false reports.

How emissions tests that exposed VW scandal were done - Technology & Science - CBC News

Volkswagen has apologized for selling hundreds of thousands of diesel cars in the U.S. with software specifically designed to evade government pollution tests.

Putting a price on Volkswagen’s emission-fraud mess: It’s going to cost them billions | Financial Post

And who owns Audi??? Can u put some light on it.

 

[New World]

Arey Bhaijaan Audi already have showrooms in Pakistan, last I remember they launched A7 about a year back in a grand ceremony in mohatta palace, Karachi. When they gonna decide to manusfacture it locally that's another issue.


And who owns Audi??? Can u put some light on it.

bhai jan, wo import ki gaye car hai 7000k se kaam ki nahy mily gi.. i'm waiting for locally built..

 

[!eon]

That will be considerable, but I will rather blame our way of driving for these reasonless traffic jams, and not number of vehicles.
For instance, in Germany driving students have to pay round about 2000 € for their license. They must have to be trained in all conditions including first aid training. That costly license achieved after hard training has 20 points. You do a mistake and will loose one, more than one point on severe mistakes. After loosing all these 20 points, you have to pay again huge money and spend time in training classes, practical as well as theoretical.

After this intense training when these people drive on roads, the result is very organized traffic flow. When speed limit is 50, every one ensures to drive exactly at 50, not more and not less. Roads are even narrower than Pakistan with more numbers of cars per road, but traffic keeps on flowing in an organized way. Despite of no speed limits on certain motorways, Germany has one of the lowest road accident ratio.

On the other hand in Pakistan you will see little kids driving cars and motorcycles, coming in opposite directions, jamming roads, making accidents. Drivers as general and particularly public transporter have no idea of any traffic rule what so ever. But people don't know the laws and ways by themselves they have to be trained. All this sadly again goes in govt account i.e. no training, no implementation of traffic laws.

True but owing to the culture of excess, the number of cars will also go up exponentially. As it is, most households try to obtain a second car after having procured their first one. Roads are jam packed, I prefer to commute by bike for the express reason that I can navigate traffic much faster and avoid having to remain stuck on the same traffic stop for several minutes.
The prime reason behind this is a lack of policy framework and and proactive legislation. In keeping with the rest of the world, cars should be cheap, it must be the insurance and the addition to your tax that must keep people from just going on a buying spree.

 

[protest]

Our auto policy is skewed yet at the same time, is absolutely necessary. It is a worrying paradox. Although vehicles are priced much higher than the global average owing to exorbitant taxes and import tariffs, Pakistan retains one of the highest automobile ownership rates in the region which means greater load on government infrastructure and an enormous loss to the national balance of export in terms of fuel imports.
I can only imagine what the situation will be like if the duty, almost 200% in some cases, is revised, there will be so many cars on the roads that we will just be stuck in traffic jams and go nowhere all day.

I am really surprised by this claim. Can u also share the exact statistics to make that claim?

This is what I found.

Car sales up by 22pc in July-March - Pakistan - DAWN.COM

Lets say 150000 cars per annum, well that's less than what Maruti sells here on a good month.

Maruti Suzuki, Hyundai, Honda Sales Grow in September - NDTVProfit.com

 

[New World]

What are we talking about? Germany investing in Japan or German investing into Pakistan? Pakistan should get whatever it can, to access advance technology in ALL sectors. In this case, Pakistan will have thousands of jobs given to her people too. It doesn't matter what "parts" come from Germany or China. You should worry more about what Pakistan gets out of it. Not what parts come from Germany.

Do you have experience in this industry or manufacturing industry overall? Just so you know, there is not even ONE machine on this planet that's developed by ONE Vendor. So yes, there will be parts in German designs which would come from Germany, China, Japan, etc. But what difference does it make? It how the manufacturing industry works.

Pakistan would be getting a LOT more modern cars then what they have right now. This will put a check to the Japanese so they'll be forced to start producing nicer car for the money and much higher quality cars, than the crap they sell to Pakistan right now.

Plus, one German manufacturer comes in and has a positive experience, no one would stop the BMW' and Mercedes of the world to come in and do the same. You guys are VERY short sighted. You don't look at the bigger picture and just respond to every small and big thing in such a negative manner like you are the top economy and you can dictate everything. That's not the case and shouldn't be. Pissing off the investors, who would employ thousands of Pakistanis isn't in Pakistan's strategic interests!!

And I frankly don't think you have a grasp on the economy or manufacturing, or even general business to be frank with you. I'd ask you to ask questions to people who might know, so you can expand your own knowledge. Don't post stuff that makes you look bad as I can clearly see you don't have the background necessary for this discussion. So why not just read up on people who would discuss it with knowledge to expand your own knowledge?

Dear, @Thorough Pro is talking about local partners of japanese companies will bribe politicians in pak to stuck deal with german companies..

go to china in stead. if you say you came from pakistan, they may knock a bit of discount, and if you dont have a job and quiet a bit of money then get a franchise.

china is good idea but i have to check that same import tax is applied to china or there is some relax..

 

[itsanufy]

Sir I mean checks on road not while manufacturing .
We have compulsory check after every two years, plus random checks by police on road in Germany.

A Euro II or any other engine will not give same emission throughout the lifecycle.

Also for @AMCA

Here in my city, pollution certificate has to be re-issued every 6 months. Traffic police randomly checks, if caught being fined. Even digital pollution checking equipment in place in some of the pollution measuring centers.
And believe me Traffic police is really strict in this aspect.