Germany ready to help KSA realize Vision 2030

[Saif al-Arab]

Germany ready to help KSA realize Vision 2030 ​

FOUZIA KHAN | Published — Tuesday 8 November 2016

German Consul General Holger Ziegeler and Ambassador Jamal Abu Al-Khoyour, deputy DG and director of Protocol Department, Makkah branch, Ministry of Foreign Affairs, and diplomats cut the cake on the occasion of the German National Day . (AN photo by Fouzia Khan)​

JEDDAH: German experts will participate in the Internet summit in Jeddah as Germany is interested in being a partner in the Kingdom’s development of Vision 2030, with an exchange of the latest technology and education, said newly arrived German Consul General Holger Ziegeler.
Ziegeler also said that Kingdom is one of Germany’s strongest partners in the region, not only due to oil, but also other industries that are very important. The Saudi government tries to invest heavily in infrastructure and future services for the population, and German companies are ready to contribute to this economic development.
Ziegeler was expressing his feelings on the occasion of German national day celebrations at his residence on Sunday. The German national day is celebrated as the Day of German Unity.
Zigeler said the Day of German Unity happened 20 years ago, when East and West Germany came together with the demolition of the Berlin Wall. He said Germany set out to show the world that problems that seem unsolvable can be easily solved when people come together, speak about it, and say “we want peace together.”
Education is the foundation of all development, and the German government is planning to open a cultural institute for language training for Saudis in order to familiarize them with the European economic and cultural giant, focusing on fostering exchanges of students, especially giving facilities to the Saudi students, so when they go to Germany they can easily adjust.
“The most important part of the collaboration is cultural exchange particularly in the field of education; education is something that works more than gold,” he said.
Germany is a country which tries to extend its hand to all nations, to all people, in order to offer the full spectrum of activities, for which the German people are known.
“The Kingdom of Saudi Arabia is a very important and stable country. The Kingdom’s ruler and government recognize the developmental vision, Vision 2030 which gives society a goal in order to join forces in common development.
"Saudi Arabia and Germany are not only political partners but active in multilateral fields, partners in the economic field; large and small German companies are serving the Kingdom and economy of Germany,” Ziegeler added.
Saudi-German relations are not only excellent at the government level but also at the people-to-people level, and Germany wants to contribute to the stable development of the Kingdom and become a strategic partner in Kingdom’s Vision 2030, he said.
“Germany wants cultural, knowledge, technology, experience and educational exchanges in different fields. The wonderful advantage of Germany is Germany offers different possibilities, and solutions for all types of problems,” he added.
Germany is not only a very politically stable partner which tries to bring countries together but also helps them in solving their problems, working together on the economic and technological front and strengthening the workforce by imparting training.
“We would like to foster education and trade between Saudi Arabia and Germany. The Jeddah Consulate issues more than 16,000 visas to Saudi people and the Riyadh Embassy has done a lot more than this, and over the last year, visas given to Saudis have increased fourfold. Germany loves to have Saudi visitors in Germany,” Ziegeler said.

http://www.arabnews.com/node/1007806/saudi-arabia

 

[war&peace]

The questions is can German be trusted...They cheated Turkey by providing sub-standard parts for their submarine program and then VW cheated the whole world...Looks like cheating and deception runs deep into their culture.

 

[Saif al-Arab]

The questions is can German be trusted...They cheated Turkey by providing sub-standard parts for their submarine program and then VW cheated the whole world...Looks like cheating and deception runs deep into their culture.

KSA is not Turkey and Turkey is not KSA and German-Turkish relations do not equal Saudi Arabian-German relations.

We have had cordial ties with Germany for a very long time and many German firms are present in KSA and they all have a good reputation. As do German products.

It would be foolish not to pursue closer ties with such a developed country that can offer a lot. Also the growing Arab population in Germany will naturally draw Germany closer to the Arab world and vice versa and hopefully enhance the ties on all fronts for the benefit of both parties.

The Arab world is a HUGE market and will become even bigger in the future. Germany could benefit a lot from increasing its influence in such a region that even neighbors Europe directly.

Say what you want but Germany has always been an industrial power in recent times. A country whose achievements have to be respected on this front.

 

[war&peace]

KSA is not Turkey and Turkey is not KSA and German-Turkish relations do not equal Saudi Arabian-German relations.

We have had cordial ties with Germany for a very long time and many German firms are present in KSA and they all have a good reputation. As do German products.

It would be foolish not to pursue closer ties with such a developed country that can offer a lot. Also the growing Arab population in Germany will naturally draw Germany closer to the Arab world and vice versa and hopefully enhance the ties on all fronts for the benefit of both parties.

The Arab world is a HUGE market and will become even bigger in the future. Germany could benefit a lot from increasing its influence in such a region.

Turkey being far ahead of KSA in technology and military has the ability and guts to detect the fraud and tell them while KSA will never be able to detect in the first place, and if even if detected, it won't be able to say anything being a dependent country.
If took years for US engineers to detect the cheating by VW.
As far as, Turkey-German relations are concerned, naturally Turkey and Germany have well-documented and historical relations since Ottoman times and being geographically closer and a very large Turkish diaspora in Germany and being NATO members and soon EU members both the countries are joined at hips to collaborate with each other.

 

[Saif al-Arab]

Turkey being far ahead of KSA in technology and military has the ability and guts to detect the fraud and tell them while KSA will never be able to detect in the first place, and if even if detected, it won't be able to say anything being a dependent country.
If took years for US engineers to detect the cheating by VW.
As far as, Turkey-German relations are concerned, naturally Turkey and Germany have well-documented and historical relations since Ottoman times and being geographically closer and a very large Turkish diaspora in Germany and being NATO members and soon EU members both the countries are joined at hips to collaborate with each other.

That is your opinion and I don't know what any of this has to do with the topic? Germany has not been involved in any fraud in KSA and if they were they would lose their market to numerous other partners of ours who are fighting to influence the local market. We are not dependent on Germany in any way.

All I am interested in here is KSA/Arab world-Germany cooperation and I welcome every beneficial cooperation.

 

[war&peace]

That is your opinion and I don't know what this has to do with the topic?

All I am interested in here is KSA/Arab world-Germany cooperation.

All I am saying that KSA should not rely too much on Germany. Also try to get better relations with Turkey which is a rising technological power and develop indigenous skills and man-power, get better relations with other Muslim countries and get its house in order, stop interfering in other countries' internal affairs e.g. Yemen. The world is changing fast akhi..

 

[Saif al-Arab]

All I am saying that KSA should not rely too much on Germany. Also try to get better relations with Turkey which is a rising technological power and develop indigenous skills and man-power, get better relations with other Muslim countries and get its house in order, stop interfering in other countries' internal affairs e.g. Yemen. The world is changing fast akhi..

Don't worry about any of that. KSA will do what will benefit it the most. As it has always done. Mostly successfully.

Have you heard about the Saudi Vision 2030 or the recent positive achievements on various fields? Seems not to be the case.

KSA is doing better than 95% of all Muslim countries and remains one of the most influential countries in the world.

Yemen is a fellow Arab country and our backyard and it is our right to secure our own security and besides we are acting on behalf of the legitimate Yemeni government and under UN resolutions. We have liberated 80% of Yemen from terrorists along with the Arab coalition which enjoys great popularity.

As for Muslim world, I can't think of a more influential Muslim country out there. Less than 1 year ago KSA founded the first Islamic military alliance.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_Military_Alliance

We only have outright bad relations with 2 Muslim countries. The Mullah's in Iran and Al-Assad in Syria.

Anyway I am not sure what any of this has to do with the topic at hand. The answer is nothing.

 

[Qutb-ud-din Aybak]

germans can be trusted for military equipments. good option. KSA should avail it.

 

[New World]

Also the growing Arab population in Germany will naturally draw Germany closer to the Arab world and vice versa and hopefully enhance the ties on all fronts for the benefit of both parties.

as for the Population..
there is a famous saying that: "last German will be buried by the Turk".. I hope you have heard it..

 

[KediKesenFare3]

KSA is not Turkey and Turkey is not KSA and German-Turkish relations do not equal Saudi Arabian-German relations.

We have had cordial ties with Germany for a very long time and many German firms are present in KSA and they all have a good reputation. As do German products.

It would be foolish not to pursue closer ties with such a developed country that can offer a lot. Also the growing Arab population in Germany will naturally draw Germany closer to the Arab world and vice versa and hopefully enhance the ties on all fronts for the benefit of both parties.

The Arab world is a HUGE market and will become even bigger in the future. Germany could benefit a lot from increasing its influence in such a region that even neighbors Europe directly.

Say what you want but Germany has always been an industrial power in recent times. A country whose achievements have to be respected on this front.

Sorry to say this but the German public and even the major political parties like SPD, Grüne, Linke und FDP are extremely anti-saudi-arabian. Germans literately hate your society and your country. They firmly believe that DAESH and all the other Islamist terror groups in this world are "Made in Saudi Arabia". No politician in Germany will ever support you publicly - unless he or she doesn't want to win the next election.

 

[Saif al-Arab]

Sorry to say this but the German public and even the major political parties like SPD, Grüne, Linke und FDP are extremely anti-saudi-arabian. Germans literately hate your society and your country. They firmly believe that DAESH and all the other Islamist terror groups in this world are "Made in Saudi Arabia". No politician in Germany will ever support you publicly - unless he or she doesn't want to win the next election.

If true or not, I could honestly not care less about it. The only thing I am interested in is business relations and I think that the leadership thinks similarly. So far German firms in KSA have been reliable and enhancing mutually beneficial ties with Germany can only be a positive thing.

Ordinary people and their opinions are irrelevant. Always will be. Also whether the German public likes it or not, Arabs in Germany will increase in numbers and enrich Germany. Somebody has to replace the dying populations in Europe. In 10 years time other migrants will arrive. If not Germany will not be the Germany of old simply due to simple demographics. Same story all across Western Europe.

 

[KediKesenFare3]

If true or not, I could honestly not care less about it. The only thing I am interested in is business relations and I think that the leadership thinks similarly. So far German firms in KSA have been reliable and enhancing mutually beneficial ties with Germany can only be a positive thing.
Ordinary people and their opinions are irrelevant. Always will be.

I hope you're right. I wish the best for you guys. The hole region and especially Turkey would benefit from you if you manage to become a industrialized economy.

 

[Saif al-Arab]

I hope you're right. I wish the best for you guys. The hole region and especially Turkey would benefit from you if you manage to become a industrialized economy.

Well, the more countries of the MENA region trade with each other the better for everyone and the region. So it goes both ways.

Speaking about acceptance (KSA can hardly be accused of caring about such a thing otherwise reforms would have arrived much earlier to "please" the West - China acts similarly in this regard and many other countries) even if KSA became a socialistic and liberal paradise Europe and Europeans would find some faults. Just look at German-Turkish relations. Anyway we just have to look at the historical and current divisions of Europe. A Eastern European will never be fully accepted by the average Western European or considered his equal.

It is simply because that segment of Europeans (liberals, socialists etc.) cannot understand that their world view is not universally followed/accepted by the world (in fact a minority only follows it) and whenever something is different it is easy to create gaps between people.

Besides the ordinary person have little say in every country. At least it does not prevent Germany from doing business with KSA or the Muslim/non-Western world for that matter.

Personal views, emotions etc. should have no say in business relations.

 

[Hurshid Celebi]

KSA is not Turkey and Turkey is not KSA and German-Turkish relations do not equal Saudi Arabian-German relations.

We have had cordial ties with Germany for a very long time and many German firms are present in KSA and they all have a good reputation. As do German products.

It would be foolish not to pursue closer ties with such a developed country that can offer a lot. Also the growing Arab population in Germany will naturally draw Germany closer to the Arab world and vice versa and hopefully enhance the ties on all fronts for the benefit of both parties.

The Arab world is a HUGE market and will become even bigger in the future. Germany could benefit a lot from increasing its influence in such a region that even neighbors Europe directly.

Say what you want but Germany has always been an industrial power in recent times. A country whose achievements have to be respected on this front.

Sorry but you sound like a lunatic, without any knowledge what is going on in Germany and EU.
Hurry and transfer KSA 750 Billion USD from US to safe heaven otherwise Trump will freeze it,
as USA did before with IRAN.

Special Vahabites and other Arabs are unfortunately most hated people in Germany. But if you are the son of a Sheikh you will never be aware about it.

 

[Saif al-Arab]

Sorry but you sound like a lunatic, without any knowledge what is going on in Germany and EU.
Hurry and transfer KSA 750 Billion USD from US to safe heaven otherwise Trump will freeze it,
as USA did before with IRAN.

Special Vahabites and other Arabs are unfortunately most hated people in Germany. But if you are the son of a Sheikh you will never be aware about it.

I know very well what is going on in the EU. Most likely more than you. I am currently based in the EU. As for Germany I know that country less but internal German matters are of no importance for KSA or me. So I simply do not care. Why the hell should I?

That is never going to happen.

Yes, Arabs are such hated in Germany that the German government and most Germans (according to polls) welcomed 1 million Syrians.

Understand that KSA never cared about what irrelevant people in Germany (or elsewhere) think about anything. It has no say in business relations or anything nor does it impact anyones lives.

Also stop acting like Germany loves Turkey or Turks as that would be a joke of a claim. Don't throw stones when you live in a glass house.

As far as lunatic goes, I believe your history on this forum, is a testimony to this word.

Anyway can you see the topic of this thread? Discuss it or find another playground. Nobody cares.