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Gaza is victorious

Do you see the word hope in there or the word wish anywhere?

This isn't over by a long shot, if you want to claim victory that's up to you. You can celebrate when Gaza has a seaport or an airport or when the siege is lifted, hope it's worth thousand lives. Meanwhile, your land is still occupied, you are nowhere near
victory.

@al-Hasani

This is the guy we call an Egyptian brother.

indeed GAZA is victorious .

the ppl how spew shyte in here dont realize how hard it is to even breathe when u r under siege .

these innocent ppl are fighting considering the fact that they have extreme problems providing health care , electrecity and other essential needs for even living , let alone fighting one of the most cold-blooded and equipped child-murderers in the world .

so STFU when u have no idea what u r talking abt .

of course palestians have more casualties since the zio cancer bombarded every moving life in gaza , but that does NOT make it a victory for them .

israeli lost the war both in media war and on the ground .

in media , cause they showed their hatred and inhumanity to the world and on the ground cause zioz did'nt sleep one night without fear .

thats enough to call it a victory !!!

mashaallah !!!

Well said Jan.

Then our 'Fukoaka' Zionist troll starts crying for his Zionist regime, lol.
 
Gaza is victorious? wtf?

Hamas must be smoking some pretty strong stuff.. I wish i could get some..:P :P
 
This is the guy we call an Egyptian brother.

Tell me what's wrong with what I have written?

You want to remove the Israeli occupation, yet if this works out you will accept a 15 year truce. You personally despise Fath and criticise their insistence on diplomacy over violence yet if this deal goes through Hamas will be forced to go down the same path.

I'm sorry for introducing a little realism, you may proceed to have a circle jerk with the rest of your buddies over this 'victory'.
 
Well said Jan.
non-muslims are butt-hurt (mostly) for what happened during the war .

the zionist regime lost the little credibility it had before and they lost their support in international community more than before .

but i'm bummed from our muslims brothers who share the same view , the reason is clear :

some of us have so much security and welfare in our lives that we have no idea what being oppressed and under siege means .

we dont witness daily bombing and we have lost none of our beloved ones in the war against zioz .

thats why we spew none sense .

GAZA won the crap out of that war ...... the victory was even bigger than that of 2007 war

:)
 
Victorious in what way? Hamas got many palestinian civilians killed with its human shield tactics .But neither Israel was any better .
 
They accepted the Egyptian proposition which they rejected 1.5 month earlier:

Israel wanted Hamas disarmed, how serious is that demand still? Considering there are more "violent" groups that could take over power in the Strip.
 
What truce will consist of in first week:

-Reconstruction/humanitarian aid to enter Gaza for complete reconstruction of Gaza
-The 'Kerem Shalom' and 'Beit Hanoun' borders which were very limited to open permanently next Tuesday
-Fishing zone to be at 6 miles and increased to 12 miles by end of year
-Egypt to host international conference for reconstruction aid
-Assassinations will cease
-Egypt to discuss permanent opening of Rafah crossing
-Seaport, airport discussions to take place next month


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Hamas official Mousa Abu Marzuk says Egypt is the only mediator for this conflict in an attempt to praise Egypt.

Victorious in what way? Hamas got many palestinian civilians killed with its human shield tactics .But neither Israel was any better .

Israel launched a war on Gaza, not the other way around. There's no such thing as human shields, even BBC chief editor couldn't find one example. ON the other hand HRW reports that Israel intentionally targets civilian families:

PHOTOS: A Gaza funeral for 26 members of one family | +972 Magazine

Israel/Palestine: Unlawful Israeli Airstrikes Kill Civilians | Human Rights Watch

(Gaza) – Israeli air attacks in Gaza investigated by Human Rights Watch have been targeting apparent civilian structures and killing civilians in violation of the laws of war. Israel should end unlawful attacks that do not target military objectives and may be intended as collective punishment or broadly to destroy civilian property. Deliberate or reckless attacks violating the laws of war are war crimes, Human Rights Watch said.

Israeli attacks in Gaza since July 7, 2014, which Israeli officials said delivered more than 500 tons of explosives in missiles, aerial bombs, and artillery fire, killed at least 178 people and wounded 1,361 as of July 14, including 635 women and children, according to the United Nations. Preliminary UN reports identified 138 people, about 77 percent of those killed, as civilians, including 36 children, and found that the attacks had destroyed 1,255 homes, displacing at least 7,500 people.

“Israel’s rhetoric is all about precision attacks but attacks with no military target and many civilian deaths can hardly be considered precise,” said Sarah Leah Whitson, Middle East director at Human Rights Watch. “Recent documented cases in Gaza sadly fit Israel’s long record of unlawful airstrikes with high civilian casualties.”

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the ppl how spew shyte in here dont realize how hard it is to even breathe when u r under siege .
:)

What truce will consist of in first week:

-Reconstruction/humanitarian aid to enter Gaza for complete reconstruction of Gaza
-The 'Kerem Shalom' and 'Beit Hanoun' borders which were very limited to open permanently next Tuesday
-Fishing zone to be at 6 miles and increased to 12 miles by end of year
-Egypt to host international conference for reconstruction aid
-Assassinations will cease
-Egypt to discuss permanent opening of Rafah crossing
-Seaport, airport discussions to take place next month


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Hamas official Mousa Abu Marzuk says Egypt is the only mediator for this conflict in an attempt to praise Egypt.
Thanks for confirming that Hamas accepted the same agreement which it rejected 1.5 months ago.

This was the Egyptian proposition from 15 jul 2014 ago:

1) unlimited time cease fire.
2) opening of Gaza's border crossings.
3) talks in Cairo between the sides within two days.

Egypt proposes cease-fire between Israel, Hamas | Mail Online

Israel accepted it, Hamas rejected:

Israel approves, Hamas rejects Egyptian-proposed Gaza truce — RT News

Now Hamas accepts it and its super duper mega victory.

P.S. meanwhile one Palestinian is killed as result of "celebration" fire.
 
What truce will consist of in first week:

-Reconstruction/humanitarian aid to enter Gaza for complete reconstruction of Gaza
-The 'Kerem Shalom' and 'Beit Hanoun' borders which were very limited to open permanently next Tuesday
-Fishing zone to be at 6 miles and increased to 12 miles by end of year
-Egypt to host international conference for reconstruction aid
-Assassinations will cease
-Egypt to discuss permanent opening of Rafah crossing
-Seaport, airport discussions to take place next month


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Hamas official Mousa Abu Marzuk says Egypt is the only mediator for this conflict in an attempt to praise Egypt.



Israel launched a war on Gaza, not the other way around. There's no such thing as human shields, even BBC chief editor couldn't find one example. ON the other hand HRW reports that Israel intentionally targets civilian families:

PHOTOS: A Gaza funeral for 26 members of one family | +972 Magazine

Israel/Palestine: Unlawful Israeli Airstrikes Kill Civilians | Human Rights Watch

(Gaza) – Israeli air attacks in Gaza investigated by Human Rights Watch have been targeting apparent civilian structures and killing civilians in violation of the laws of war. Israel should end unlawful attacks that do not target military objectives and may be intended as collective punishment or broadly to destroy civilian property. Deliberate or reckless attacks violating the laws of war are war crimes, Human Rights Watch said.

Israeli attacks in Gaza since July 7, 2014, which Israeli officials said delivered more than 500 tons of explosives in missiles, aerial bombs, and artillery fire, killed at least 178 people and wounded 1,361 as of July 14, including 635 women and children, according to the United Nations. Preliminary UN reports identified 138 people, about 77 percent of those killed, as civilians, including 36 children, and found that the attacks had destroyed 1,255 homes, displacing at least 7,500 people.

“Israel’s rhetoric is all about precision attacks but attacks with no military target and many civilian deaths can hardly be considered precise,” said Sarah Leah Whitson, Middle East director at Human Rights Watch. “Recent documented cases in Gaza sadly fit Israel’s long record of unlawful airstrikes with high civilian casualties.”

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Like hiding weapons in mosques in heavily populated areas or like Hamas intentionally firing rockets on israeli civilians. See Hamas with its pathetic tactics is going to get you nowhere. Better you call Igor Strelkov the leader of novorossian forces who has routed ukrainian armor and artillery forces with a much smaller force. Hamas with its tactics will ensure only destruction of your people. You are better off if led by Iran ,instead of that hamas who licks Qatar rear.
 
Senior Hamas official: Israel agreed to open Gaza crossings | Maan News Agency

BETHLEHEM (Ma’an) – Israel has agreed to open Gaza crossings to allow the flow of humanitarian aid and construction material, senior Hamas leader Mousa Abu Marzouq said Tuesday.

Speaking to Ma’an, Abu Marzouq added that three more Gaza crossings will be operated in addition the Kerem Shalom and Erez crossings, which are already operating.

Asked about the fishing zone, he said that Gaza fishermen would be allowed to reach as far as 6 nautical miles and the zone would be increased gradually until it is 12 nautical miles by the end of 2014.

Reconstruction of the war-torn Gaza Strip will be discussed during a conference in Egypt next month, added Abu Marzouq. The Palestinian national consensus government will be in charge of implementation.

The Hamas official added that the ceasefire agreement was sponsored and would be monitored by Egypt only.

Another round of negotiations will start a month from now to discuss unresolved issues, Abu Marzouq said.

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SEAPORT/AIRPORT/ELECTRICITY CRISIS

Furthermore, Israeli, European and American restrictions and opposition to money transfers to Gaza for salaries for employees of the former Hamas-led government in Gaza have been cancelled. The national consensus government is supposedly working on proceedings to arrange payment of salaries.

Abu Marzouq pointed out that Israel agreed to stop targeted assassinations of resistance activists and said that a ceasefire agreement could have been reached earlier if Israel agreed to this demand sooner.
As for the Rafah crossing, Abu Marzouq said Egyptian and Palestinian officials would meet soon to discuss what is needed to open the crossing permanently.

The Gaza buffer zone has also been removed, he added.

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GAZANS FILL THE STREETS IN CELEBRATION AS OFFICIAL END TO CONFLICT

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TimesofIsrael:


Half of cabinet ministers oppose truce
Half of the ministers in the security cabinet are still opposed to the Egyptian framework for a ceasefire, even as an open-ended truce in the Gaza Strip takes effect, Channel 2 reports.

According to the report, Economy Minister Naftali Bennett, Foreign Minister Avigdor Liberman, and Public Security Minister Yitzhak Aharonovitch say they are opposed to the Egyptian framework, with Communications Minister Gilad Erdan also voicing reservations.

Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu reportedly approved the proposal without putting it to a vote in the cabinet, as the move does not legally require the ministers’ approval.

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Seems like a policy to win negotiations of Hamas by means of death for their own people.
It starts with, Hamas will do something so that Israel start bombing. Then people will die and media will be so loud on this issue.
Now no Army in this world can kill millions of people. So any strong army will come to negotiations so that no more people die.
By this way victory goes to Gaza.
 

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