Future of moodI jee,s air shakti & its effects on PAF !

[Joe Shearer]

Oh sure that's why never been produced after its single solo launch ? Lol


Keep promoting whatever you want , but in any airwar all of your nice words not going to defend India ?Lil
Face the reality & end the stupid desh bhagti ?lolzz

Oh Lor', he's back! Stupid keepers.

 

[batmannow]

Its out in the Market though .. 06th October, 2015
India’s Air Force Will Field 42 Combat Squadrons by 2027 | The Diplomat

Air Chief Marshal Raha, announced that the IAF will procure a larger number of improved Mark-I Tejas Light Combat Aircraft (LCA) – dubbed Tejas Mark-IA- than the forty it had originally committed to buying. “We are ready to take more — 120 (fighters), six squadrons of Tejas… We are ready to take it as soon as they (HAL) can provide it. That means they have to ramp up the production rate, which is running behind schedule… But we will take all 120,” he said. (The IAF recently abandoned plans to develop an upgraded Mark-II LCA.)



Yes U r Right ... this is sensationalism created by Journos .. I was not saying Tejas is All this .. it was in response to an earlier comment ..

2027 oh my god !lolzz

Oh Lor', he's back! Stupid keepers.

Wow moodi jee ,s super pro ?lolzz

 

[Sipahi]

Air Shakti

 

[batmannow]

Air Shakti

East meets west !lolzz

 

[Infinity]

Modi is using ancient weapons (Swords and Spears) to upgrade indian forces....

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I think these will be fair enough to deal PA

 

[Mav3rick]

Effects will be benficial

I think the benefit, in the long run, will be for India. If IAF is pushed to purchase the locally developed LCA Tejas, it would translate into savings which would then translate into further R&D and high profile ventures.

For Pakistan it would be best if India continues to rely on foreign imported arms.

 

[zebra7]

Exactly my thoughts.. Golden opportunity.. Strike while the Iron is hot.. We are waiting for Zaid Hamid, Zarvans, white horses and other holy warriors!!!

Where is HAQ doing ?? still musing !!

 

[GR!FF!N]

@WebMaster @Oscar

same news,different thread,again..

Please merge it.

 

[zebra7]

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  Modi pushes 'obsolete' made-in-India plane on reluctant military Dawn PUBLISHED ABOUT 10 HOURS AGO
• • NEW DELHI: India's government has turned down its military's request to expand the acquisition of 36 fighter planes from Dassault Aviation SA to plug vital gaps, officials said, nudging it to accept an indigenous combat plane 32 years in the making.
    
    Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi's decision, in line with his Make-in-India policy to encourage domestic industry, is a blow for not only the French manufacturer but also others circling over the Indian military aviation market worth billions of dollars.
    
    The push for India's struggling Tejas light combat aircraft (LCA) also comes at a time when the Indian Air Force (IAF) is at its weakest operational strength since the 1962 war against China, which is causing anxiety within military circles.
    
    Since it took over last year, the Modi administration has repeatedly said its overriding goal is to cut off the military's addiction to foreign arms which has made it the world's top importer.
    
    The air force wanted the government to clear an additional 44 Rafale medium multirole aircraft on top of the 36 that Modi announced during a visit to Paris this year that are to be bought off-the-shelf to meet its urgent requirements.
    
    Read: Rafale fighter jets deal between India and France in jeopardy
    
    But a defense ministry official said that Indian Defense Minister Manohar Parrikar had told the Indian air force that there weren't enough funds to expand the Rafale acquisition and that it must induct an improved version of the indigenous Tejas-Mark 1A.
    
    "The IAF (air force) needs to have a minimum number of aircraft at all times. The LCA is our best option at this stage, given our resource constraints," the defense official said.
    
    "The Rafale is our most expensive acquisition. The LCA is our cheapest in the combat category."
    
    India's air force says its requires 45 fighter squadrons to counter a "two-front collusive threat" from Pakistan and China. But it only has 35 active fighter squadrons, parliament's defense committee said in a report in April citing a presentation by a top air force officer.
    
    With the drawdown of Soviet-era MiG 21 planes under way, the air force would be down to 25 squadrons by 2022 at the current pace of acquisitions, it told the committee.
    
    Cleared by the government in 1983, the LCA designed by the government's Defense Research and Development Organisation (DRDO) was meant to be the backbone of the air force due for induction in 1994.
    
    Instead, it suffered years of delay and chaos with scientists trying to build the world's most modern light combat aircraft from scratch, including the engine.
    
    Eventually they scrapped the engine, turning to GE Aviation and lowering their ambitions for a state-of-the-art fighter. So far, only one aircraft has been produced and even that is awaiting final operational clearance, now delayed to early 2016.
    
    "In January this year, they had given one LCA ... which had not completed its flight testing. They handed over the papers to us. We do not make a squadron with one aeroplane. That is where we are," said an air force officer speaking on condition of anonymity.
    
    Safety concerns
    An independent investigation by the Comptroller and Auditor General of India into the LCA program identified 53 "shortfalls" in the plane. In a report in May, the auditor said that the plane wasn't as light as promised, the fuel capacity and speed were lower than required and there were concerns about safety.
    
    Retired Air Marshal M. Matheswaran, a former deputy chief of the Integrated Defense Staff, said the LCA was obsolete.
    
    "It is a very short-range aircraft which has no relevance in today's war fighting scenarios. If you are trying to justify this as a replacement for follow-on Rafales, you are comparing apples with oranges."
    
    He said the plane was at best a technology demonstrator on which Indian engineers could build the next series of aircraft, not something the air force could win a war with.
    
    "We would like to have the MMRCA (Medium Multi-Role Combat Aircraft) variety of aircraft. At least about six squadrons, to my mind," the head of the air force, Arup Raha, said at the weekend, referring to the Rafale class of fighters.
    
    But K. Tamilmani, the DRDO's aerospace chief, said the modified version of the Tejas addressed most of the Indian air force concerns. These included electronic warfare system, flight computer, radar and maintenance problems.
    
    "Almost all the problems get solved with the 1A. There will always be scope for improvement, but there are no flight safety issues," he said.
    
    State-run Hindustan Aeronautics Limited would be able to ramp production to 16 a year by 2017 to meet the air force's demands, he said.
    
    "We Indians are extremely good at blaming each other - at blaming it all on Indian production."
    
    Dassault declined any comment on the government's decision to cap the Rafale fleet.
    
    A source close to Sweden's Saab, which has been pushing its Gripen light fighter, said that it was respectful of India's decision to try to develop its domestic military base.
    
    "There's still a huge gap that needs to be filled. We are marketing it (the Gripen) under the Make-in-India umbrella," he said. "Even if you add the seven squadrons of the Tejas, there is still a requirement (with MiGs retiring etc). It’s a question of timing. Can they build these for when they need them?"
    
    with that mind set where indian air force is going from now onwards ?
  • & what will be its implications on PAF ?

First When did the LCA have become obsolute !!

Second Both govt. and Airforce IAF have zeroed on one plane i.e Rafale so sooner or later that is coming to india, and there is no plan B. 36 rafale jet in fly away condition is through G-G which gives faster acquasition with lower price period and the much needed ample time to Dassault and his indian pvt partner (whether Reliance Airospace or other) to farmulize and make deal for the 50% offset condition. The total order to the Dassault could be upto 189 birds.

Third Rafale is not meant for pakistan and it is the requirement for conduction deep strike, high SAM threat environment, low altitute strike which MKI could not period.

Forth its LCA mk2 which IAF wanted now, which should be now the prime priority. In all the total requirement for the LCA's all variant could me around 400.

Fifth leave aside what the gernalist opinion is, the only thing that matter is what the Raksha Mantralay (defence ministory) says, others should be taken with the pinch of salt.

 

[45'22']

Oh sure that's why never been produced after its single solo launch ? Lol


Keep promoting whatever you want , but in any airwar all of your nice words not going to defend India ?Lil
Face the reality & end the stupid desh bhagti ?lolzz

If ur criteria to judge a fighter is the number of operational sqd then i am wasting my time here

 

[Ideological Defender]

Effects will be benficial

Not as beneficial as it seems ... Coz they hav alrdy got 360+ MRFs, ours being about 140 ... Yes u can certainly say that the PAF has got an opportunity to fill the gap, considering the scenario that there is anticipation of fresh induction in the IAF, whereas the PAF is still on the way in recieving 250 planned JF-17s (out of which about 49 are alrdy in service)

 

[Sipahi]

East meets west !lolzz

Ahahahahah Bilkul Sir jee

 

[GURU DUTT]

I think the benefit, in the long run, will be for India. If IAF is pushed to purchase the locally developed LCA Tejas, it would translate into savings which would then translate into further R&D and high profile ventures.

For Pakistan it would be best if India continues to rely on foreign imported arms.

thing is hub bul watan pakistani internet fanboys in there anthosiasm to make fun of india and moodi have forgaotten the basic principals of defnce prepairdness and importence of internal strenth and value of local industry ... strange isnt it

 

[vsdave2302]

Indian Navy's Air wing is capable of taking care of entire PAF. So no need to Cheer for Pakistanis.

 

[zebra7]

Why old things are discussed again and again. Posting of such news should be posted on the appropriate threads and not make another thread of each news. Waste of energy, bandwidth, time.