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French National Assembly OKs bill to strip terrorists of citizenship

By Don Melvin and Noisette Martel, CNN



Updated 2129 GMT (0529 HKT) February 10, 2016





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A woman weeps in Paris on November 14, the day after a series of deadly attacks in the French capital.
Story highlights
  • French National Assembly approves measure in wake of Paris terror attacks
  • Senate is set to vote on bill to amend French Constitution in March
  • Bill would let terrorists be stripped of citizenship, or of rights associated with it
Paris (CNN)French lawmakers gave preliminary approval Wednesday to a bill that would allow terrorists to be stripped of French citizenship, or at least of rights associated with it.

The National Assembly, the French Parliament's lower house, approved the measure by a 317-199 vote.

The Senate must still approve the bill if it is to become a part of the French Constitution.

But the legislation has already split the ruling Socialist Party badly. Justice Minister Christiane Taubira resigned in opposition to the measure.

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Christiane Taubira resigned as justice minister in protest.
"I am leaving the government over a major political disagreement," Taubira said. "I choose to be true to myself."

President Francois Hollande put forward the proposal in the wake of the November 13 Paris terrorist attacks that killed 130 people.

Overall, the legislation is intended to give the president greater powers to declare a state of emergency without, as is now the case, first asking for a vote in the Parliament.

A U.N. convention discourages countries from leaving people without any citizenship. France is a signatory to that convention.

The first draft of the measure called for stripping those with a second nationality who committed crimes against the nation to be stripped of their French citizenship. It caused outrage in some quarters, particularly on the left, on the grounds it would penalize those with second citizenships but not most of the French, who have only French passports.

The new measure still calls for stripping those with another nationality of their French citizenship. But it adds that those with French citizenship can be stripped of "the rights attached to it," implying that those with only one citizenship will face similar punishment to those with two or more.

The Senate is expected to vote on the bill March 22.

Any constitutional changes require both chambers of the Parliament to convene in a Congress in Versailles and proceed to a vote that receives a three-fifths majority. The Constitutional Council, France's highest court, must then review the text before the constitution can be amended.


French lawmakers OK bill to strip terrorists of citizenship - CNN.com

Well done France. Hopefully more European countries(bar Germany obviously. lol )will follow your example.:pop:
 
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I hope there is no opposition for this; i think its quite obvious that someone joining an terrorist organisation is forfeiting its right to be a citizen of its nation.
 
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I hope there is no opposition for this; i think its quite obvious that someone joining an terrorist organisation is forfeiting its right to be a citizen of its nation.
True, Israel set a good example for us with its zero tolerance of anyone joining a terrorist group against it's own country.

Knesset Passes Law to Strip Terrorists of Israeli Citizenship
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MK David Rotem: There is no citizenship without loyalty; lawmakers also agree to revoke stipend of MK Azmi Bishara, suspected of series of crimes against national security.
The 'citizenship loyalty' law also allows the court to revoke the status of any permanent resident found guilty of assisting a terrorist organization.
Yisrael Beiteinu chairman, Foreign Minister Avigdor Lieberman, lauded the Knesset's decision as a step toward "contending with the phenomenon of exploiting democracy in order to subvert it."
According to the bill, only people with dual citizenship could be stripped of their Israeli citizenship entirely. Someone without dual citizenship could still lose his Israeli citizenship, but would be granted status equivalent to what Israel grants foreign workers.
read more: Knesset Passes Law to Strip Terrorists of Israeli Citizenship - Haaretz
Join a terrorist group, lose your citizenship - LA Times

Australia also passed similar laws.
Law to strip dual nationals of Australian citizenship set to pass parliament | Australia news | The Guardian

We in Britain have to follow suit. :pop:
 
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French National Assembly OKs bill to strip terrorists of citizenship

By Don Melvin and Noisette Martel, CNN



Updated 2129 GMT (0529 HKT) February 10, 2016





151114165421-paris-woman-crying-nov-14-exlarge-169.jpg


A woman weeps in Paris on November 14, the day after a series of deadly attacks in the French capital.
Story highlights
  • French National Assembly approves measure in wake of Paris terror attacks
  • Senate is set to vote on bill to amend French Constitution in March
  • Bill would let terrorists be stripped of citizenship, or of rights associated with it
Paris (CNN)French lawmakers gave preliminary approval Wednesday to a bill that would allow terrorists to be stripped of French citizenship, or at least of rights associated with it.

The National Assembly, the French Parliament's lower house, approved the measure by a 317-199 vote.

The Senate must still approve the bill if it is to become a part of the French Constitution.

But the legislation has already split the ruling Socialist Party badly. Justice Minister Christiane Taubira resigned in opposition to the measure.

160127100341-christiane-taubira-medium-plus-169.jpg


Christiane Taubira resigned as justice minister in protest.
"I am leaving the government over a major political disagreement," Taubira said. "I choose to be true to myself."

President Francois Hollande put forward the proposal in the wake of the November 13 Paris terrorist attacks that killed 130 people.

Overall, the legislation is intended to give the president greater powers to declare a state of emergency without, as is now the case, first asking for a vote in the Parliament.

A U.N. convention discourages countries from leaving people without any citizenship. France is a signatory to that convention.

The first draft of the measure called for stripping those with a second nationality who committed crimes against the nation to be stripped of their French citizenship. It caused outrage in some quarters, particularly on the left, on the grounds it would penalize those with second citizenships but not most of the French, who have only French passports.

The new measure still calls for stripping those with another nationality of their French citizenship. But it adds that those with French citizenship can be stripped of "the rights attached to it," implying that those with only one citizenship will face similar punishment to those with two or more.

The Senate is expected to vote on the bill March 22.

Any constitutional changes require both chambers of the Parliament to convene in a Congress in Versailles and proceed to a vote that receives a three-fifths majority. The Constitutional Council, France's highest court, must then review the text before the constitution can be amended.


French lawmakers OK bill to strip terrorists of citizenship - CNN.com

Well done France. Hopefully more European countries(bar Germany obviously. lol )will follow your example.:pop:

At the same time,Sweden rejected a similar bill. :rolleyes:

@flamer84
 
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At the same time,Sweden rejected a similar bill. :rolleyes:

@flamer84
Yes, i red that today, no surprise there. Sweden and Germany are brothers in arms in this regard(Sweden is even worse). :lol:
I red that Sweden will imprison any Swedish citizen who join and fight for terrorist group and return home to plan attacks against their own country. Sweden says it will imprison them for a maximum of 2 years(to be freed earlier if they behave well.) LMAO.:rofl: Sweden is getting very tough against terrorists indeed.:omghaha::omghaha::omghaha::omghaha:
 
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Useless law. There should be a way to strip people of rights without stripping them of citizenship. Death penalty is already an example. It will only help people who want to take advantage of citizenship while being terrorists. Except the due process of law, citizenship offers nothing substantial to terrorists. And if taking away that right is possible by a terrorist stamp, many innocents might get it.
 
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Yes, i red that today, no surprise there. Sweden and Germany are brothers in arms in this regard(Sweden is even worse). :lol:
I red that Sweden will imprison any Swedish citizen who join and fight for terrorist group and return home to plan attacks against their own country. Sweden says it will imprison them for a maximum of 2 years(to be freed earlier if they behave well.) LMAO.:rofl: Sweden is getting very tough against terrorists indeed.:omghaha::omghaha::omghaha::omghaha:
Didn't one of Sweden's police officers make excuses for the "boy" who stabbed a refugee worker to death? These people are mad, mad, mad.

Useless law. There should be a way to strip people of rights without stripping them of citizenship. Death penalty is already an example. It will only help people who want to take advantage of citizenship while being terrorists. Except the due process of law, citizenship offers nothing substantial to terrorists. And if taking away that right is possible by a terrorist stamp, many innocents might get it.
The EU doesn't allow the death penalty. Another reason for us to leave.
 
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This do not serve at all the fight against terrorism.

But it open a new door, a very dangerous one.


Today we agreed that this law will be applied against whoever is recognized as terrorist. U won't discuss about its validity, or efficiency.

But tomorrow, even anyone could be accused of being a terrorist and get stripped of his nationality.

And we know, how law are used by the people in the power, or by people who act behind the scene for their own advantage...


Tomorrow any Muslim, well educated, could be targeted just to keep Muslims in lower classes of the society. I'm witnessing this trend here in France. Mark my words.

It's not France's policies but as policies are made by people, and people with manipulations skills... Thoses people have interested in doing so...
 
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French National Assembly OKs bill to strip terrorists of citizenship

By Don Melvin and Noisette Martel, CNN



Updated 2129 GMT (0529 HKT) February 10, 2016





151114165421-paris-woman-crying-nov-14-exlarge-169.jpg


A woman weeps in Paris on November 14, the day after a series of deadly attacks in the French capital.
Story highlights
  • French National Assembly approves measure in wake of Paris terror attacks
  • Senate is set to vote on bill to amend French Constitution in March
  • Bill would let terrorists be stripped of citizenship, or of rights associated with it
Paris (CNN)French lawmakers gave preliminary approval Wednesday to a bill that would allow terrorists to be stripped of French citizenship, or at least of rights associated with it.

The National Assembly, the French Parliament's lower house, approved the measure by a 317-199 vote.

The Senate must still approve the bill if it is to become a part of the French Constitution.

But the legislation has already split the ruling Socialist Party badly. Justice Minister Christiane Taubira resigned in opposition to the measure.

160127100341-christiane-taubira-medium-plus-169.jpg


Christiane Taubira resigned as justice minister in protest.
"I am leaving the government over a major political disagreement," Taubira said. "I choose to be true to myself."

President Francois Hollande put forward the proposal in the wake of the November 13 Paris terrorist attacks that killed 130 people.

Overall, the legislation is intended to give the president greater powers to declare a state of emergency without, as is now the case, first asking for a vote in the Parliament.

A U.N. convention discourages countries from leaving people without any citizenship. France is a signatory to that convention.

The first draft of the measure called for stripping those with a second nationality who committed crimes against the nation to be stripped of their French citizenship. It caused outrage in some quarters, particularly on the left, on the grounds it would penalize those with second citizenships but not most of the French, who have only French passports.

The new measure still calls for stripping those with another nationality of their French citizenship. But it adds that those with French citizenship can be stripped of "the rights attached to it," implying that those with only one citizenship will face similar punishment to those with two or more.

The Senate is expected to vote on the bill March 22.

Any constitutional changes require both chambers of the Parliament to convene in a Congress in Versailles and proceed to a vote that receives a three-fifths majority. The Constitutional Council, France's highest court, must then review the text before the constitution can be amended.


French lawmakers OK bill to strip terrorists of citizenship - CNN.com

Well done France. Hopefully more European countries(bar Germany obviously. lol )will follow your example.:pop:

I couldn't understand how practical is this ? So, what happens to these guys stripped out of French citizenship....are they going to be dumped into a remote island ? Or how can a person live in a country without citizenship....you can't own, rent a home, can't buy a car, can't get treated in a hospital, can't get a job etc....
 
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I couldn't understand how practical is this ? So, what happens to these guys stripped out of French citizenship....are they going to be dumped into a remote island ? Or how can a person live in a country without citizenship....you can't own, rent a home, can't buy a car, can't get treated in a hospital, can't get a job etc....
I think its only for people with double citizenship since it would be impossible to send people in their home countries without a citizenship.
 
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I think its only for people with double citizenship since it would be impossible to send people in their home countries without a citizenship.
Yeah, it would make sense that way but article says;

"The new measure still calls for stripping those with another nationality of their French citizenship. But it adds that those with French citizenship can be stripped of "the rights attached to it," implying that those with only one citizenship will face similar punishment to those with two or more."
 
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