Freedom Fighter Terrorist Bad Guy What Now :---

[MastanKhan]

Hi,

In 2001---the US deceived the world by labelling freedom fighters as " terrorists " after the incidence of 9/11---.

They started a war on terror and struck afghanistan---. After the first week after OBL had escaped Kandhar---people started asking the question---why is there no US troops on the ground in afghanistan---. Why did the US military let OBL escape afghanistan into the mountains---. Why did the US have no troops on the ground in afghanistan to capture the terrorists or kill them when they started the war---.

The answer to that question came as a shock to many---it was---we are not going after the terrorists anymore---they are finished---we are going for the rebuilding of afghanistan---that is what this war is for---.

In the same breath---the US govt named the Taliban---the freedom fighters who ere fighting an occupying force---the US military---as a terrorist group---. At the time the world was scared of the US military might---and they were afraid that if they spoke up---they would be a target of the US military---.

Incidently---these freedom fighters fighting in different countries were of muslim origin---like Chechnya---like Kashmir---Like afghanistan---like Palestine---so suddenly those fighting to free themselves of occupiers became terrorists---.

Amazing isn't it---George Washington must be laughing his head of in his grave along with his British counter part---. According to this definition----the americans were the original and the biggest terrorists of all times in the modern world---. Funny what would GW say when he would have been labelled as a terrorist and the world would have sanctioned France for helping out a terrorist organization---.

In due time---the terrorists also became the 'bad guys' and that name had a very interesting background to it---. That back ground is related to the video games that came out in the mid and late 90's---.

You were in a video game fighting your opponent---and the opponent was not called enemy but was called a " BAD GUY " and you went to kill the bad guys---. It is really amazing how that phrase got set in the minds of the young christian soldiers of the world---.

When asked about how it feels like killing the taliban---Prince Harry replies---it is like killing " bad guys in a video game "---remember he was flying a helicopter. Modern day video games---so realistic in appearance---and the "bad guys" all looking & dressed like muslims fighting for their freedom but labelled as terrorists---.

So---the american forces and their alliance was fighting not the freedom fighter ( the taliban ) but the bad guys---and you know it is okay to kill the bad guys---as many as you want---and you know who says that---the video game says that---and who played video games---almost all the young men who joined the military---.

The russians took real good advantage of the term 'terrorist'---they had a field day in executing the chechens who were fighting an occupying russian military---.

So---that is where we stand today---. The US wants out of afghanistan thru the help of pakistan---. In return of the favor---they have labelled an indian funded balochistan insurgency group as a terrorist group---.

But of real interest now would be the war of independence in indian occupied kashmir---IOK. Since pakistan has a claim on the land ie IOK---and indian govt has changed its status from a disputed territory to an occupied land---and this territory was taken thru military action---it would be very interesting to see the outcome of this conflict---.

@Khafee @Mangus Ortus Novem @Irfan Baloch @omegalamba7XL9

 

[HAIDER]

Hi,

In 2001---the US deceived the world by labelling freedom fighters as " terrorists " after the incidence of 9/11---.

They started a war on terror and struck afghanistan---. After the first week after OBL had escaped Kandhar---people started asking the question---why is there no US troops on the ground in afghanistan---. Why did the US military let OBL escape afghanistan into the mountains---. Why did the US have no troops on the ground in afghanistan to capture the terrorists or kill them when they started the war---.

The answer to that question came as a shock to many---it was---we are not going after the terrorists anymore---they are finished---we are going for the rebuilding of afghanistan---that is what this war is for---.

In the same breath---the US govt named the Taliban---the freedom fighters who ere fighting an occupying force---the US military---as a terrorist group---. At the time the world was scared of the US military might---and they were afraid that if they spoke up---they would be a target of the US military---.

Incidently---these freedom fighters fighting in different countries were of muslim origin---like Chechnya---like Kashmir---Like afghanistan---like Palestine---so suddenly those fighting to free themselves of occupiers became terrorists---.

Amazing isn't it---George Washington must be laughing his head of in his grave along with his British counter part---. According to this definition----the americans were the original and the biggest terrorists of all times in the modern world---. Funny what would GW say when he would have been labelled as a terrorist and the world would have sanctioned France for helping out a terrorist organization---.

In due time---the terrorists also became the 'bad guys' and that name had a very interesting background to it---. That back ground is related to the video games that came out in the mid and late 90's---.

You were in a video game fighting your opponent---and the opponent was not called enemy but was called a " BAD GUY " and you went to kill the bad guys---. It is really amazing how that phrase got set in the minds of the young christian soldiers of the world---.

When asked about how it feels like killing the taliban---Prince Harry replies---it is like killing " bad guys in a video game "---remember he was flying a helicopter. Modern day video games---so realistic in appearance---and the "bad guys" all looking & dressed like muslims fighting for their freedom but labelled as terrorists---.

So---the american forces and their alliance was fighting not the freedom fighter ( the taliban ) but the bad guys---and you know it is okay to kill the bad guys---as many as you want---and you know who says that---the video game says that---and who played video games---almost all the young men who joined the military---.

The russians took real good advantage of the term 'terrorist'---they had a field day in executing the chechens who were fighting an occupying russian military---.

So---that is where we stand today---. The US wants out of afghanistan thru the help of pakistan---. In return of the favor---they have labelled an indian funded balochistan insurgency group as a terrorist group---.

But of real interest now would be the war of independence in indian occupied kashmir---IOK. Since pakistan has a claim on the land ie IOK---and indian govt has changed its status from a disputed territory to an occupied land---and this territory was taken thru military action---it would be very interesting to see the outcome of this conflict---.

War or slow bleed proxy war. But will be war. If you notice last three army chief conference on youtube, it clearly show COAS is very tense.

 

[MastanKhan]

War or slow bleed proxy war. But will be war. If you notice last three army chief conference on youtube, it clearly show COAS is very tense.

I did not see them---Plz forward the link.

 

[HAIDER]

I did not see them---Plz forward the link.

I watched on Ary, but if we can find on youtube.
Not good visual

 

[YeBeWarned]

Objectives Define the outcomes of War, If America wanted to kill one guy (OBL) they could have done it in their first offensive , I can not believe that America has Tora bora Surrounded with all mordern Equipment and Radio interceptors but somehow OBL escape into Pakistan ? ? If OBL died that day things might be different and many of the people would still be alive who died in Afghanistan and Pakistan because of the infighting .

Coming to recent Indo Pak relations , For decades India has been given the impression and facts back it up that they are one of the worlds top Economy and Military force, Just like America China Russian forces are deemed as invincible for a small country to attack, India always wanted to join that Group and they did after their forceful annexation of Kashmir into their Union Territory . Pakistan on this point can not do much other than look for Diplomatic support, Legal options or launch a campaign in Western Countries to try shift the mindset , but as OP has said, that After 9/11 the impression which prevailed in World that If a Muslim is fighting for its rights,land and occupation it was Portrayed as Terrorism , and people fighting as Terrorist , That narrative has now deep rooted in almost every part of the world and that is why you hardly see Govt's from EU or west ever stand by the Muslims be it Palestine , Rohingya or Kashmiri's . It will take decades to change this narrative but for that the world needs another Enemy, maybe Communists can take the place of Radical Muslims and hence America will than lead the world against the Terror of communists and Communism , and we Muslims once again Like " Truck ki Batti " will fall behind them .

 

[Psychic]

Hi,

In 2001---the US deceived the world by labelling freedom fighters as " terrorists " after the incidence of 9/11---.

They started a war on terror and struck afghanistan---. After the first week after OBL had escaped Kandhar---people started asking the question---why is there no US troops on the ground in afghanistan---. Why did the US military let OBL escape afghanistan into the mountains---. Why did the US have no troops on the ground in afghanistan to capture the terrorists or kill them when they started the war---.

The answer to that question came as a shock to many---it was---we are not going after the terrorists anymore---they are finished---we are going for the rebuilding of afghanistan---that is what this war is for---.

In the same breath---the US govt named the Taliban---the freedom fighters who ere fighting an occupying force---the US military---as a terrorist group---. At the time the world was scared of the US military might---and they were afraid that if they spoke up---they would be a target of the US military---.

Incidently---these freedom fighters fighting in different countries were of muslim origin---like Chechnya---like Kashmir---Like afghanistan---like Palestine---so suddenly those fighting to free themselves of occupiers became terrorists---.

Amazing isn't it---George Washington must be laughing his head of in his grave along with his British counter part---. According to this definition----the americans were the original and the biggest terrorists of all times in the modern world---. Funny what would GW say when he would have been labelled as a terrorist and the world would have sanctioned France for helping out a terrorist organization---.

In due time---the terrorists also became the 'bad guys' and that name had a very interesting background to it---. That back ground is related to the video games that came out in the mid and late 90's---.

You were in a video game fighting your opponent---and the opponent was not called enemy but was called a " BAD GUY " and you went to kill the bad guys---. It is really amazing how that phrase got set in the minds of the young christian soldiers of the world---.

When asked about how it feels like killing the taliban---Prince Harry replies---it is like killing " bad guys in a video game "---remember he was flying a helicopter. Modern day video games---so realistic in appearance---and the "bad guys" all looking & dressed like muslims fighting for their freedom but labelled as terrorists---.

So---the american forces and their alliance was fighting not the freedom fighter ( the taliban ) but the bad guys---and you know it is okay to kill the bad guys---as many as you want---and you know who says that---the video game says that---and who played video games---almost all the young men who joined the military---.

The russians took real good advantage of the term 'terrorist'---they had a field day in executing the chechens who were fighting an occupying russian military---.

So---that is where we stand today---. The US wants out of afghanistan thru the help of pakistan---. In return of the favor---they have labelled an indian funded balochistan insurgency group as a terrorist group---.

But of real interest now would be the war of independence in indian occupied kashmir---IOK. Since pakistan has a claim on the land ie IOK---and indian govt has changed its status from a disputed territory to an occupied land---and this territory was taken thru military action---it would be very interesting to see the outcome of this conflict---.

@Khafee @Mangus Ortus Novem @Irfan Baloch

Allow me to share another tidbit;
When it became clear that the AQ trapped in Tora Bora etc would now try to escape into Pakistan, we were asked to stop them from crossing the Durand line. Pakistan army tried to do the best it could do but due to a lack of infrastructure and roads in that region, deployment was rather slow. Pakistan army requested the US to either provide helis or provide airlift facility so that we could quickly man the frontier but those requests were denied.

 

[خره مينه لګته وي]

There is a strong possibility that local freedom fighters would increase their attacks on occupational indian Forces + more will join the freedom fighters in the struggle & in return India will Blame Pakistan as they always do... After That things can go out of control if india proceed with their Bollywood type Fake SirGkal strikes like they did in 2016, Modi wont mind a big Attack on security Forces just before the elections..

Pakistan should Stop wasting Artillery shells on these Indiots instead they should invest more on buying huge number of rifles + increase the menpower + increase the indian security forces death toll by 3× on border and if Pakistan do support freedom fighters then it will create more problems for india.. & Pakistan should support Khalistan Movement to increase the Heat for New Delhi & opening a new Front will be a bonus point regarding Kashmir.

As far as USA is concerned They will change wherever their interests align.. Right now US is stuck in Afg so it's understandable that they wont take sides instead remain neutral... once they're out of Afg then it will be interesting to see its moves & policy direction in regards to Kashmir and Pakistan + India.

USA has a history of creating Snakes then later on invading the same country With all the fanfare of Freedom-Democracy-Liberty-Nation building etc..

If Trump wins election bcz of Troops Pullout from Afg then things will get interesting..

 

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

Kashmir / Khalistan Movement has to be recognized as a Freedom Movement for Two people

• Kashmiri
• Sikh

 

[MastanKhan]

Allow me to share another tidbit;
When it became clear that the AQ trapped in Tora Bora etc would now try to escape into Pakistan, we were asked to stop them from crossing the Durand line. Pakistan army tried to do the best it could do but due to a lack of infrastructure and roads in that region, deployment was rather slow. Pakistan army requested the US to either provide helis or provide airlift facility so that we could quickly man the frontier but those requests were denied.

Hi,

The problem was that the Pak military did not understand or did not know how to understand the deceipt of the US military---.

Pak should have realized that uncertain times were coming---. It was clear as daylight---.

 

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

I still feel we should go in and drop down a mountain over Indian troops
Genocidal Enemy needs to be treated like a Venomous Snake treat

Can't let 12 Million Pakistani Citizens (Kashmiris) held against their wishes by Indian Militant Force

I don't agree with how Imran Khan has handled the crisis

 

[MastanKhan]

I still feel we should go in and drop down a mountain over Indian troops
Genocidal Enemy needs to be treated like a Venomous Snake treat

Can't let 12 Million Pakistani Citizens (Kashmiris) held against their wishes by Indian Militant Force

I don't agree with how Imran Khan has handled the crisis

Hi,

Imran Khan has shown UNCERTAINTY over the Kashmir issue---. There was reason to make statements about 'no war' or not supporting the freedom fighters---.

Off course we will support the freedom fighters---.

 

[khail007]

There was reason to make statements about 'no war' or not supporting the freedom fighters---.

IMO USA ratcheted up pressure on Pakistan with FATF, IMF and Alice Wells personally monitoring it in Islamabad. These are the reasons of Hafiz Saeed Sahib's arrest and inactivation of Pakistan Defence Council.

 

[Fawad alam]

Hi,

Imran Khan has shown PURE COWARDICE over the Kashmir issue---. There was reason to make statements about 'no war' or not supporting the freedom fighters---.

Off course we will support the freedom fighters---.

What you think, how the current situation is building?
The new war is near after the current military buildup by India or
India will use this military to only suppress Kashmiri people (Our turn will come after few years)?

 

[MastanKhan]

IMO USA ratcheted up pressure on Pakistan with FATF, IMF and Alice Wells personally monitoring it in Islamabad. These are the reasons of Hafiz Saeed Sahib's arrest and inactivation of Pakistan Defence Council.

Hi,

Pakistanis fckd up themselves---. It is a nation---when it gets well of a little bit---it starts to strut around like peacocks & starts to act cocky---.

Pakistanis refused to look around the region and see what was happening---.

This nation of mine is so dumb---that it really believes that it can protect its nucs from the US and itself from neigbor---.

One muslim nations was being destroyed after another---afg---iraq---Libya---Syria---egypt got some taste of medicine---.

And the stupid pakistanis were claiming our troops are not for rent---we are not mercenray soldiers.

Pakistanis are on the average so dumb that they don't know that even the TALIBAN FIGHTERS are mercenary fighters---fighting for their own country---.

The proof came out when Pakistan put sanctions on US supply line---no containers to afghanistan---. After awhile---some realized that the attacks by taliban had gone down considerably on the US troops---.

So---what came out was that the US was paying Taliban warlords for safe passage to transport containers to their bases in afghanistan---and as the Taliban warlords did not get the money---they could not pay their taliban troops the money to attack the US troops---.

Mercenary soldier my foot---.

Now---pakistan should get ready to be reamed up theirs---. The warning was all up in the air for a very long time---the time for maturity has just about begun---.

I mean to ask---how stupid the men and children of the only muslim nation of 200 nucs can be in a world of christian nuc nations---when they claimed---we don't bother anyone---don't bother us---.

Did these people really believe that they would be left to hold onto their 200 nucs just like that---.

That is the absolute height of stupidity---.

Imran Khan is a wonderfull guy---extremely honest---but he is extremely tactless when it comes to governing---.

His first blunder---when Musharraf asked him to join him---he should have accepted the offer of prime ministership---reasoning---first of all---in order to do good---you have to be in a position to do good---secondly---Musharraf was not a corrupt person---one may disagree with his stance---but he stood for pakistan---.

That was the first time I realized that IK would have issues---, He wanted everything perfect---. Now---18 years later---he has to sign with the corrupt to win the election---.

Second time IK failed was during Dharna---he could have overthrown the govt when he had them cornered---. Could have saved the nation 20-25 billion dollars of loans---.

But again sheer lack of understanding---Sh Rasheed told him---let some blood flow & overthrow the govt---. But IK fell for the promises of Gen Raheel Shareef---.

You guys remember my words for months to come---. Honesty is fine---but there are other things that are needed alongwith honesty to lead a nation---.

He just wants to show himself to be a big peace lover---I pray that I am wrong and I have to eat crow---but things don't look good---.

Specially with this current Foreign minister Shah Mahmood---he is without a backbone ---.

IK needs Shireen Mazari for that job and the americans would hate him for doing that---.

She was touted for defense minister americans intervened and IK made an idiot a defense minster---.

Now---sometimes---destiny has something written different for different people---. If IK has glory to his name---I would rather be humbled than stick to my guns---.

Hi,

I have written extensively on this forum---.

Here is a video from a concerned citizen.

https://www.facebook.com/

 

[PaklovesTurkiye]

Hi,

In 2001---the US deceived the world by labelling freedom fighters as " terrorists " after the incidence of 9/11---.

They started a war on terror and struck afghanistan---. After the first week after OBL had escaped Kandhar---people started asking the question---why is there no US troops on the ground in afghanistan---. Why did the US military let OBL escape afghanistan into the mountains---. Why did the US have no troops on the ground in afghanistan to capture the terrorists or kill them when they started the war---.

The answer to that question came as a shock to many---it was---we are not going after the terrorists anymore---they are finished---we are going for the rebuilding of afghanistan---that is what this war is for---.

In the same breath---the US govt named the Taliban---the freedom fighters who ere fighting an occupying force---the US military---as a terrorist group---. At the time the world was scared of the US military might---and they were afraid that if they spoke up---they would be a target of the US military---.

Incidently---these freedom fighters fighting in different countries were of muslim origin---like Chechnya---like Kashmir---Like afghanistan---like Palestine---so suddenly those fighting to free themselves of occupiers became terrorists---.

Amazing isn't it---George Washington must be laughing his head of in his grave along with his British counter part---. According to this definition----the americans were the original and the biggest terrorists of all times in the modern world---. Funny what would GW say when he would have been labelled as a terrorist and the world would have sanctioned France for helping out a terrorist organization---.

In due time---the terrorists also became the 'bad guys' and that name had a very interesting background to it---. That back ground is related to the video games that came out in the mid and late 90's---.

You were in a video game fighting your opponent---and the opponent was not called enemy but was called a " BAD GUY " and you went to kill the bad guys---. It is really amazing how that phrase got set in the minds of the young christian soldiers of the world---.

When asked about how it feels like killing the taliban---Prince Harry replies---it is like killing " bad guys in a video game "---remember he was flying a helicopter. Modern day video games---so realistic in appearance---and the "bad guys" all looking & dressed like muslims fighting for their freedom but labelled as terrorists---.

So---the american forces and their alliance was fighting not the freedom fighter ( the taliban ) but the bad guys---and you know it is okay to kill the bad guys---as many as you want---and you know who says that---the video game says that---and who played video games---almost all the young men who joined the military---.

The russians took real good advantage of the term 'terrorist'---they had a field day in executing the chechens who were fighting an occupying russian military---.

So---that is where we stand today---. The US wants out of afghanistan thru the help of pakistan---. In return of the favor---they have labelled an indian funded balochistan insurgency group as a terrorist group---.

But of real interest now would be the war of independence in indian occupied kashmir---IOK. Since pakistan has a claim on the land ie IOK---and indian govt has changed its status from a disputed territory to an occupied land---and this territory was taken thru military action---it would be very interesting to see the outcome of this conflict---.

@Khafee @Mangus Ortus Novem @Irfan Baloch @omegalamba7XL9

I love your posts, really sir...

I used to play in my childhood.....Delta Force Black Hawk Down game on PS2. Where US delta force used to say after shooting enemy....

One BAD GUY Down.

I hope Pakistani generals realize that being only Muslim nation with nukes, high chances are we would be stripped off of our capability right in between the war or way before that.

We would not be allowed to use nukes even if we want to.

@Oscar @ARMalik @Armchair @Humble Analyst @Reddington