France Tests Huge 140mm Tank Gun As It Pushes Ahead With Germany On A New Tank Design

[Vergennes]

http://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zon...ushes-ahead-with-germany-on-a-new-tank-design

 

[Nilgiri]

I like! Getting bout halfway to 155mm ....thats gonna be some serious firepower!

 

[randomradio]

The shells could end up being too heavy to manually carry.

 

[KediKesenFare3]

The Germans are not happy about this cooperation, btw.

 

[Trango Towers]

Well...why not work on KE rounds.

KE = 0.5 MV squared

So instead of making mass bigger increase the velocity of the round.

 

[Michael Corleone]

The shells could end up being too heavy to manually carry.

i would expect people to be arrying around a shell of that caliber... just barely.... i'm not so sure about 15s though...

The Germans are not happy about this cooperation, btw.

why do you say that?

 

[Nilgiri]

Well...why not work on KE rounds.

KE = 0.5 MV squared

So instead of making mass bigger increase the velocity of the round.

Well with this argument, why not keep decreasing the caliber just to get more velocity? i.e why not stick with 105 mm earlier and just make smaller K.E rounds?...instead of transitioning to 120 mm.

Overall this is more of a sweet spot area fiddling around. Higher caliber also means you can impart more total energy at breech/muzzle and make an equivalent K.E round that much more lethal.

 

[KediKesenFare3]

i would expect people to be arrying around a shell of that caliber... just barely.... i'm not so sure about 15s though...

why do you say that?

They have different expectations and requirements.

 

[Trango Towers]

Well with this argument, why not keep decreasing the caliber just to get more velocity? i.e why not stick with 105 mm earlier and just make smaller K.E rounds?...instead of transitioning to 120 mm.

Overall this is more of a sweet spot area fiddling around. Higher caliber also means you can impart more total energy at breech/muzzle and make an equivalent K.E round that much more lethal.

Ofcourse a heavier round travelling at the same speed will impart greater energy. Equally a smaller round with a higher speed will impart greater energy. Now a sabolt round may be better with my suggestion but HE round may be better with your suggestion

 

[Oldman1]

The shells could end up being too heavy to manually carry.

Think thats where the autoloader comes in.

 

[randomradio]

Think thats where the autoloader comes in.

The 140mm obviously need an autoloader. But the autoloader itself has to be manually restocked.

 

[Nasr]

The french are intimidated by the new Russian T-14 Armata tank. Which is why they're teaming up with Germany to build something which can counter it. They fear that if Russia mass produces Armata, then an armored invasion of Europe by Russia would be a nightmare scenario.

In reality, Russia would never invade Europe, because Europe is Russia's biggest customer for natural gas and oil. You don't invade one of your biggest trading partner. The only way that would ever happen, is when america and britain meddle in Ukraine, and force Europe into a confrontation with Russia. It is america and britain, satan's two horns, that want war with Russia and China. And to achieve that, they will be willing to throw their own allies under the bus.

 

[Beast]

The 140mm obviously need an autoloader. But the autoloader itself has to be manually restocked.

When manually restock, a 2 members team replenishment can be set up and a full rds are usually seperated into warhead and charges.

 

[Ali_Baba]

http://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zon...ushes-ahead-with-germany-on-a-new-tank-design

This is interesting. Recently both Germany and France signed an agreement where France will develop a 5/6th generation fighter and Germany will develop a Tank for both their militaries with either country taking "lead" on the programme on each programme.

Seems like France has taken the lead on the jet programme, and is now "attempting" to establish facts on the ground to take the "lead" on the tank programme aswell.

You simply cannot trust the French to play fair and level, on any scenario no matter what agreement you think you have struck with them.

We in the UK keep having to relearn this lesson(no one really seems to pay attention so we keep going through this cycle). Looks like Germany is going to get a touch of the same lesson.

You cannot trust the French. Plain, and simple.

 

[randomradio]

When manually restock, a 2 members team replenishment can be set up and a full rds are usually seperated into warhead and charges.

The West use one-piece ammo, not like us.

The French use two-piece, so they may have to continue that.