France & Pakistan to revive JF-17 Avionics/EW/Missiles deal as Indian MMRCA stalls.

[Bilal.]

The question is whether we need it now?

 

[SrNair]

If this is a pressure tactics and even ifthey are successful in this to grab MMRCA for their own favour .This would be the last deal with France.
France will face obstacles in their future business with India.

 

[Donatello]

Not surprised at all. Seems like these would be for Block 3, since Block2 is already in production. It also means that exports are expected, so PAF must have given the French an estimate on how much they can earn, regardless of whether India gets Rafale or not.

Still waiting for confirmation and actual deal, but would be nice to have those systems along with, of course the MICA/Meteor weapons package. Now if they would seriously increase the hardpoints on JF-17, so it can carry at least 4 full BVRs and 2 wingtip IR missiles.

@MastanKhan @Oscar

 

[Abingdonboy]

Highly placed industrial sources have indicated to me that the deal for advanced Avionics, Radar, EW suite, HMD/S and MICA Missiles for PAF's JF-17 Thunder jets is back on the table. The deal was postponed after India removed Rafale from its MMRCA. Now that the Rafale deal with India is stalling, the French are willing to sell the whole package PAF wants for its Thunder fleet.

@Windjammer

This is a joke, right?

Either you are making this entire thing up or your "Highly placed industrial sources" are lying to you. The latest news regarding the Rafale deal have been positive, wait a few more weeks and your last hopes will be dashed and the deal will be signed.

Even IF the Rafale deal was stalled with India, the level of business India still does with France is many times greater than anything Pakistan can offer (A330 MRTTs, Ceasar MGS, LUHs, SSKs, radars etc etc). NO WAY would France put this at risk for some HMDS and EW sub-systems for the JF-17.


Sorry.

 

[Donatello]

If this is a pressure tactics and even ifthey are successful in this to grab MMRCA for their own favour .This would be the last deal with France.
France will face obstacles in their future business with India.

Oh okay, and as usual India's Make in India program will hit the wall.

 

[SrNair]

Horus, do you think it will be a wise move to go ahead with this proposal? What if they are using it as a pressure tactic?

This is a pressure tactic.No doubt.

But French are not trustworthy.They will soon turn the table once we warned about a complete banning of French from our weapons market.

 

[Pomegranate]

Its a great news indeed for pakistan .....

 

[Donatello]

Two things for which i am willing to forgive Pakistan Cricket team's fallacy:
1-Pakistan JF-17 gets the much needed western avionics and weapons
2-Pakistan buys the UAE Mirage 2000 fleet.

 

[Abingdonboy]

Oh okay, and as usual India's Make in India program will hit the wall.

Wishful thinking or you have something to back this nonsense up for once?

 

[slapshot]

France and their pressure tactics.

What about India and its Chaska tactics! Why would a country lose business on empty promises?

 

[SrNair]

Oh okay, and as usual India's Make in India program will hit the wall.

French are just one supplier of defence systems.We have Russia,Israel,US in there.Make in India will thrive even if there is no France.
And also we dont know whether this 'highly placed sources' is right or wrong.

 

[Abingdonboy]

Two things for which i am willing to forgive Pakistan Cricket team's fallacy:
1-Pakistan JF-17 gets the much needed western avionics and weapons
2-Pakistan buys the UAE Mirage 2000 fleet.

Ooh you are not going to be a happy man then....

 

[420canada]

PAF i guess like to be treated like a abused bride. lmao her husband went with the richer girl but ended up with her. lmao.

 

[Donatello]

Wishful thinking or you have something to back this nonsense up for once?

I don't think we have to prove anything to random Indian shmucks on PDF.

 

[Abingdonboy]

I don't think we have to prove anything to random Indian shmucks on PDF.

Then don't make statements you aren't willing to defend or back up.