Former PM of Pakistan Abbasi Admitting he Couldn't Establish Writ of Govt!

[Meengla]

Following video is truly startling. A seasoned anchor like Talat Hussain had to pause and ask the former PM of Pakistan Shahid Khaqan Abbasi again what the PM was really saying. Basically, the then PM of Pakistan couldn't even call the Rangers force to kick out only a few hundred TLP thugs from the Faizabad sit-in in 2017. Yes, the same TLP making headlines for their latest 'protests' these days!!

The whole interview is worth watching--it's in Urdu, so I will summarize a few things here:

1) PM Abbasi admitting that he couldn't even call the Pakistan Rangers--the Rangers refused!
2) Even the Punjab Police wouldn't put its neck out against TLP because of how the police got framed for the Model Town killings (yes, that time it was Imran Khan's buddy Mullahs rioting!!)
3) PM Abbasi: PM Imran Khan shouldn't have made a threat against TLP publicly when he can't carry it out.
4) In the video, there's a disagreement between the current govt's minister and the TLP guy; the TLP guy, in the video, makes a threat to the minister: You will see what will become of you!
5) TLP guy wants unconditional release of all rioters while the minister says its up to the courts to decide.

 

[alee92nawaz]

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Following video is truly startling. A seasoned anchor like Talat Hussain had to pause and ask the former PM of Pakistan Shahid Khaqan Abbasi again what the PM was really saying. Basically, the then PM of Pakistan couldn't even call the Rangers force to kick out only a few hundred TLP thugs from the Faizabad sit-in in 2017. Yes, the same TLP making headlines for their latest 'protests' these days!!

The whole interview is worth watching--it's in Urdu, so I will summarize a few things here:

1) PM Abbasi admitting that he couldn't even call the Pakistan Rangers--the Rangers refused!
2) Even the Punjab Police wouldn't put its neck out against TLP because of how the police got framed for the Model Town killings (yes, that time it was Imran Khan's buddy Mullahs rioting!!)
3) PM Abbasi: PM Imran Khan shouldn't have made a threat against TLP publicly when he can't carry it out.
4) In the video, there's a disagreement between the current govt's minister and the TLP guy; the TLP guy, in the video, makes a threat to the minister: You will see what will become of you!
5) TLP guy wants unconditional release of all rioters while the minister says its up to the courts to decide.

Government has actiactu played them for fools

 

[Indus Pakistan]

You know I have been saying for some time that the reason no action was taken against TLP is because the state is helpless. Well, almost everything has been laid bare. It's clear that the state has failed in Pakistan. What we have here is a partial failed state. You know how our detractors call Pakistan a failed state. Well sadly it appears that there is more then grain of truth in that. Although I suspected this but to hear it loud is still shocking. I mean the PM of Pakistan could not clear a few thugs from Faizabad Chowk, Islamabad which is major entry to the federal capital is shocking. Rangers refused, Punjab police refused, Islamabad police just play acted a half hearted attempt. The judiciary also play acted by giving a judgement saying clear the darned chowk but don't hurt anybody. As if clearing it could be done by giving the crowds candy and tickling them with feathers. What is also obvious was there was failure in command, but also lack in resources as some trouble makers had better equipment then police. Again i have been saying fcuk buying ships for the navy. Can we please adopt writ of the state in our towns and steets before worrying about writ on the high seas.


Either way this is shocking and explains much why the present government seemed helpless. Because non of the coercive organs of the state, police, rangers or army had the boll*ocks to face the TLP thugs. This also explains why interior minister went missing, the army croaked that they this issue had nothing to do with them [when TLP was openly asking soldiers to mutiny against COAS Bajwa], the rangers went on holiday, the judges [who stick their noses via suo motu into everything] suddenly went dumb and did ignored the sedition and incitement to murder by TLP.

I don't I have ever been this demoralized about Pakistan then this. This calls for some major introspection. Indeed now I can see why the world worries about Pakistani nukes. The state that is so fragile and helpless in front of some crazed mullahs. The next few months will be telling. This Asia Bibi event might turn out to be seminal event in Pakistan's history.

I want to see what happens when PM IK comes back.

 

[HAIDER]

After 18th amendment it is more difficult to control provinces.

You know I have been saying for some time that the reason no action was taken against TLP is because the state is helpless. Well, almost everything has been laid bare. It's clear that the state has failed in Pakistan. What we have here is a partial failed state. You know how our detractors call Pakistan a failed state. Well sadly it appears that there is more then grain of truth in that. Although I suspected this but to hear it loud is still shocking. I mean the PM of Pakistan could not clear a few thugs from Faizabad Chowk, Islamabad which is major entry to the federal capital is shocking. Rangers refused, Punjab police refused, Islamabad police just play acted a half hearted attempt. The judiciary also play acted by giving a judgement saying clear the darned chowk but don't hurt anybody. As if clearing it could be done by giving the crowds candy and tickling them with feathers. What is also obvious was there was failure in command, but also lack in resources as some trouble makers had better equipment then police. Again i have been saying fcuk buying ships for the navy. Can we please adopt writ of the state in our towns and steets before worrying about writ on the high seas.


Either way this is shocking and explains much why the present government seemed helpless. Because non of the coercive organs of the state, police, rangers or army had the boll*ocks to face the TLP thugs. This also explains why interior minister went missing, the army croaked that they this issue had nothing to do with them [when TLP was openly asking soldiers to mutiny against COAS Bajwa], the rangers went on holiday, the judges [who stick their noses via suo motu into everything] suddenly went dumb and did ignored the sedition and incitement to murder by TLP.

I don't I have ever been this demoralized about Pakistan then this. This calls for some major introspection. Indeed now I can see why the world worries about Pakistani nukes. The state that is so fragile and helpless in front of some crazed mullahs. The next few months will be telling. This Asia Bibi event might turn out to be seminal event in Pakistan's history.

I want to see what happens when PM IK comes back.

I think, when hoard of journalist betrayed Musharraf after Lal Masjid stand off. That was first warning shot, that how easy our people are for sale. Hamid Mir is living example, when he pushed Musharraf for action and after action he was vocal against that action.
And Musharraf pointed finger at Hamid Mir and said, today you are asking for action and tomorrow will stand against me......... and it was so true.

 

[Indus Pakistan]

After 18th amendment it is more difficult to control provinces.

If this keeps up we may slip to a loose confederation and eventually entirely independant four countries. Think Yugoslavia.

 

[HAIDER]

If this keeps up we may go to a loose confederation and eventually entire independant four countries. Think Yugoslavia.

Rauf Kalaasra predicated that situation after 18th amendment .. People like Zardari,Achakzai ,Diesel are threat for federal . 18th amendment need to be revert.

 

[Indus Pakistan]

Rauf Kalaasra predicated that situation after 18th amendment .. People like Zardari,Achakzai ,Diesel are threat for federal . 18th amendment need to be revert.

I agree. Either we revert [including establishing a strong presidential type government] or frankly if this rickety structure continues I would prefer if it was broken into four units. At least each would have chance to develop properly.

 

[TMA]

If this keeps up we may slip to a loose confederation and eventually entirely independant four countries. Think Yugoslavia.

Wasn't there a US military officer who talked about Balkanization? This is the gameplay all along....

 

[HAIDER]

I agree. Either we revert [including establishing a strong presidential type government] or frankly if this rickety structure continues I would prefer if it was broken into four units. At least each would have chance to develop properly.

Except Punjab, rest of provinces has no potential to stand up on there own. They have ages of feudal system, remain people live under that brutal rule. Yes, its feudal who select the side. But , it is fact , Sindhi and Baluchi economy run by Punjabi labor and businessmen. In both Baluchistan and Sindh feudal carry only negative energy, which is anti progress. Can be seen easily on local development programs.

 

[Meengla]

People who have known me here must know that I very forcefully and consistently opposed Imran Khan's 2014 Dharnas--and so did most sane Pakistanis. Not only that would set a bad precedent to change the govt using street power but would also give undue space to an imported Mullah from Canada (Tahir ul Qadri), who was Imran Khan's ally then.

But... Imran's stupidity in 2014 was well helped by many members here. So long as the target was PMLN, it was okay to use the imported Mullah and his fanatical brigade, right?! And so, while I don't know the facts about the Model Town 14 deaths by police, my very strong hunch is that police didn't kill the Mullah brigade for fun--the Mullah brigades always have willing martyrs in its ranks--listen to the goons of TLP Pakistan, if you are missing the point!!!! And yet so many of you, in your myopia and political partisanship, have been roasting PMLN for the Model Town killing of 2014.

Guys: Open your eyes and think for Pakistan--not for Nawaz Sharif or Imran Khan. In your partisanship, you have taken away the powers from the police--which may be corrupt or inefficient in Pakistan, but still better than THE MOB!!!

 

[HAIDER]

Wasn't there a US military officer who talked about Balkanization? This is the gameplay all along....

Nation need stability for economic growth, when jahil people like Khadem Rizvi who believe in miracle for economic growth , then what you expect.
Somone ask him, do you have any idea how we pay off national debt , he replied , koi allah ka banda pay kar da ga.... imagine .

 

[khanasifm]

This fuc667 does not know what he is talking about he was piece of sh۴۶ pm

 

[TMA]

Nation need stability for economic growth, when jahil people like Khadem Rizvi who believe in miracle for economic growth , then what you expect.
Somone ask him, do you have any idea how we pay off national debt , he replied , koi allah ka banda pay kar da ga.... imagine .

Jahil people exist, past, present and future...but why are ignorami held with importance....the fact that so many ignorami are held in high regards by so many...is a testament to a failure of the State...and methinks that many in the State prefer this....as they are not ready to sincerely infuse Islam into the State...rather leave it to such characters...and then the State complains

 

[Indus Pakistan]

People who have known me here must know that I very forcefully and consistently opposed Imran Khan's 2014 Dharnas--and so did most sane Pakistanis. Not only that would set a bad precedent to change the govt using street power but would also give undue space to an imported Mullah from Canada (Tahir ul Qadri), who was Imran Khan's ally then.

But... Imran's stupidity in 2014 was well helped by many members here. So long as the target was PMLN, it was okay to use the imported Mullah and his fanatical brigade, right?! And so, while I don't know the facts about the Model Town 14 deaths by police, my very strong hunch is that police didn't kill the Mullah brigade for fun--the Mullah brigades always have willing martyrs in its ranks--listen to the goons of TLP Pakistan, if you are missing the point!!!! And yet so many of you, in your myopia and political partisanship, have been roasting PMLN for the Model Town killing of 2014.

Guys: Open your eyes and think for Pakistan--not for Nawaz Sharif or Imran Khan. In your partisanship, you have taken away the powers from the police--which may be corrupt or inefficient in Pakistan, but still better than THE MOB!!!

Good post.

 

[AZ1]

If this keeps up we may slip to a loose confederation and eventually entirely independant four countries. Think Yugoslavia.

So another bhutoo or khosa or jataoi can rule karachi no sir not accepted.