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The Basmallah is in front of every Surah in every Quran but Sura 44 only has 59 verses, how did you guys get 11 more verses in that chapter. o_O

Ad-Dukhan - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
is the 44th chapter (sura) of the Quran with 59 verses.

Even online Qurans only have 59 verses.
Sura 44, Smoke (Al-Dukhãn) Quran The Final Testament, translated by Rashad Khalifa, Ph.D.
The Quran,sura 44
Know Quran - Chapter 44

You see what I mean?



I just seen your edit nvm my previous post.

You had me worried there for a minute, thought one of us was going barmy.:crazy:
 
Bukhari: 34/102; 46/31

You going to have to write it out I google the number and it comes up with some other hadith have nothing to do with Jesus AS, as far as I knew these Hadiths were the only ones mentioning Jesus AS.

Jesus in Hadith
Sahih Bukhari Volume 3, Book 34, Number 425:

Narrated Abu Huraira:

Allah's Apostle said, "By Him in Whose Hands my soul is, son of Mary (Jesus) will shortly descend amongst you people (Muslims) as a just ruler and will break the Cross and kill the pig and abolish the Jizya (a tax taken from the non-Muslims, who are in the protection, of the Muslim government). Then there will be abundance of money and no-body will accept charitable gifts.

Sahih Bukhari Volume 3, Book 43, Number 656:

Narrated Abu Huraira:

Allah's Apostle said, "The Hour will not be established until the son of Mary (i.e. Jesus) descends amongst you as a just ruler, he will break the cross, kill the pigs, and abolish the Jizya tax. Money will be in abundance so that nobody will accept it (as charitable gifts).

Sahih Bukhari Volume 4, Book 55, Number 651:

Narrated Abu Huraira:

I heard Allah's Apostle saying, "I am the nearest of all the people to the son of Mary, and all the prophets are paternal brothers, and there has been no prophet between me and him (i.e. Jesus)."

Volume 4, Book 55, Number 652:

Narrated Abu Huraira:

Allah's Apostle said, "Both in this world and in the Hereafter, I am the nearest of all the people to Jesus, the son of Mary. The prophets are paternal brothers; their mothers are different, but their religion is one."

Volume 4, Book 55, Number 657:

Narrated Abu Huraira:

Allah's Apostle said, "By Him in Whose Hands my soul is, surely (Jesus,) the son of Mary will soon descend amongst you and will judge mankind justly (as a Just Ruler); he will break the Cross and kill the pigs and there will be no Jizya (i.e. taxation taken from non Muslims). Money will be in abundance so that nobody will accept it, and a single prostration to Allah (in prayer) will be better than the whole world and whatever is in it." Abu Huraira added "If you wish, you can recite (this verse of the Holy Book): -- 'And there is none Of the people of the Scriptures (Jews and Christians) But must believe in him (i.e. Jesus as an Apostle of Allah and a human being) Before his death. And on the Day of Judgment He will be a witness Against them." (4.159) (See Fateh Al Bari, Page 302 Vol. 7)

Volume 4, Book 55, Number 658:

Narrated Abu Huraira:

Allah's Apostle said "How will you be when the son of Mary (i.e. Jesus) descends amongst you and he will judge people by the Law of the Quran and not by the law of Gospel (Fateh-ul Bari page 304 and 305 Vol 7)

Sahih Muslim Book 030, Number 5834:

Abu Huraira reported Allah's Messenger (pbuh) as saying: I am most akin to the son of Mary among the whole of mankind and the Prophets are of different mothers, but of one religion, and no Prophet was raised between me and him (Jesus Christ).

Book 030, Number 5835:

Abu Huraira reported Allah's Messenger (pbuh) as saying: I am most akin to Jesus Christ among the whole of mankind, and all the Prophets are of different mothers but belong to one religion and no Prophet was raised between me and Jesus.

Book 030, Number 5836:

Abu Huraira reported many ahadith from Allah's Messenger (pbuh) and one is that Allah's Messenger (pbuh) said: I am most close to Jesus, son of Mary, among the whole of mankind in this worldly life and the next life. They said: Allah's Messenger how is it? Thereupon he said: Prophets are brothers in faith, having different mothers. Their religion is, however, one and there is no Apostle between us (between I and Jesus Christ).

Sunan Abu Dawud Book 37, Number 4310:

Narrated Abu Huraira:

The Prophet (pbuh) said: There is no prophet between me and him, that is, Jesus (pbuh). He will descend (to the earth). When you see him, recognize him: a man of medium height, reddish fair, wearing two light yellow garments, looking as if drops were falling down from his head though it will not be wet. He will fight the people for the cause of Islam. He will break the cross, kill swine, and abolish jizya. Allah will perish all religions except Islam. He will destroy the Antichrist and will live on the earth for forty years and then he will die. The Muslims will pray over him.
 
Allah's Apostle said, "By Him in Whose Hands my soul is, son of Mary (Jesus) will shortly descend amongst you people (Muslims) as a just ruler and will break the Cross and kill the pig and abolish the Jizya

No one can abolish Quran sanctioned Jiziya !! Going around and Killing the pigs is unislamic
 
No one can abolish Quran sanctioned Jiziya !! Going around and Killing the pigs is unislamic

LOL according to the Hadith everyone would become Muslim so who would jizya be collected from lol? You missed the point and the breaking cross and killing pig part is symbolic to show that Jesus would show the Christians that they were wrong to have taken those up.
Whether he will appear or not is ones belief but saying he would appear and change the Sharia is false. :pop:
 
LOL according to the Hadith everyone would become Muslim so who would jizya be collected from lol? You missed the point and the breaking cross and killing pig part is symbolic to show that Jesus would show the Christians that they were wrong to have taken those up.
Whether he will appear or not is ones belief but saying he would appear and change the Sharia is false. :pop:

My understanding is a bit different dear . I believe that when Quran has allowed the non Muslims to live their life according to their own beliefs in a Muslim state provided that they pay Jiziyah , when Quran says "Lakum deenukum Waliyadin" , When Quran says that a christain or jew or star-worshipper can also be rewarded in the after life (if he believes in the creator and the day of judgement) , When we are not allowed to wage wars without a reason ,... there is no point in believing in stories that tell us that Islam will be forcefully implemented upon all by some Messiah one day!!
 
My understanding is a bit different dear . I believe that when Quran has allowed the non Muslims to live their life according to their own beliefs in a Muslim state provided that they pay Jiziyah , when Quran says "Lakum deenukum Waliyadin" , When Quran says that a christain or jew or star-worshipper can also be rewarded in the after life (if he believes in the creator and the day of judgement) , When we are not allowed to wage wars without a reason ,... there is no point in believing in stories that tell us that Islam will be forcefully implemented upon all by some Messiah one day!!
Mr Quran and sunnah are both part of Islam Mr and this ayat you mentioned is for those who came before Islam Mr other wise ALLAH has also said in the same Quran that when ALLAH says it has completely Islam and it will not accept any thing other than Islam Mr and yes not following Hadees only makes a person Kharji because they were the first ones to deny Hadees
 
My understanding is a bit different dear . I believe that when Quran has allowed the non Muslims to live their life according to their own beliefs in a Muslim state provided that they pay Jiziyah , when Quran says "Lakum deenukum Waliyadin" , When Quran says that a christain or jew or star-worshipper can also be rewarded in the after life (if he believes in the creator and the day of judgement) , When we are not allowed to wage wars without a reason ,... there is no point in believing in stories that tell us that Islam will be forcefully implemented upon all by some Messiah one day!!

Not by force, my friend. Some may believe by force, but Ahmadis believe that the Messiah will present logical arguments and signs in support of Islam which will inevitably draw people to Islam. I believe the forcefully part is an invention of the ignorant jahil mullahs who have totally misunderstood the mission of Hazrat Muhammad (saw). I agree with everything else in your comment.

(Not trying to preach:astagh:, just letting you know about Ahmadi beliefs, as they are mostly twisted and hidden from the masses by introducing stupid laws.)
 
Not by force, my friend. Some may believe by force, but Ahmadis believe that the Messiah will present logical arguments and signs in support of Islam which will inevitably draw people to Islam. I believe the forcefully part is an invention of the ignorant jahil mullahs who have totally misunderstood the mission of Hazrat Muhammad (saw). I agree with everything else in your comment.

(Not trying to preach:astagh:, just letting you know about Ahmadi beliefs, as they are mostly twisted and hidden from the masses by introducing stupid laws.)
Mirza was a liar and not a Massiah and Ahmedi Beliefs are kufr in light of Quran and Sunnah because he is not a PROPHET not a Massiah he was a liar and a kazab

Mirza Ghulam Ahmad in the Mirror of his own Writings
Preface
Truth and untruth are two on-going serials of the world. But Allah, Exalted in Munificence, has bestowed some distinctive factors enabling a man of ordinary understanding and common sense to identify one from the other. Praise to Him.

Mirza Ghulam Ahmad of Qadian (India) made a number of claims for himself, from being a 'Revivalist' to being a 'Prophet'. The falsehood or otherwise of a claim is easily identifiable through several tokens of cognizance which Allah, the Exalted, has laid down.

But the easiest pointer, readily available, is Mirza's own writings about which he himself said that his writings were a touchstone to check upon the veracity of his claims. I, therefore, invite readers to go through his written statements and judge for themselves.

Here are presented 22 excerpts from Mirza's writings. You would see in these that Mirza challenges the world to prove him a liar. He is bold about it. I expect my brethren to test his metal in a cool unprejudiced manner.

I pray to Allah, the Exalted, to grant us His Favor in identifying the truth as such, and untruth as such.

Ameen!



Excerpt No. 1: Mirza Ghulam Ahmad Qadiani wrote in a letter to Qazi Nazar Hussain, Editor, Newspaper 'Qul-Qul', Bijnor, (India):"Those persons who come from Allah's side.... they do achieve essential intent of their 'sending down and do not die till the purpose of their commission is not manifested.
My mission for which I am standing in this field is this very one that I (a) topple the pillar of worship of Isa, (b) spread monotheistic doctrine in place of Trinity, (c) and display dignity and glory o the holy Prophet(SAW) before the world.

Therefore, I am a liar if I fail in the manifestation of this essential intent, notwithstanding millions of tokens coming forth from me.

Why is the world, therefore, inimical to me? And why does it not see my end? If I manage to succeed in doing in support of Islam that work which the promised Masih or the promised Mahdi should have done, then I am truthful. And if nothing happens by the time I am dead then let everybody be witness that I am a liar. (Newspaper, 'Badr', Qadian, Vol. 2, P. 4, July 19, 1906).

Comments: How far did Mirza succeed in his mission is recounted in the official newspaper of Qadianis, Al Fazl, in its issue dated June 19,1941, page 5. It says:

"Do you know, there are 137 Christian Missions operating in India, i.e., Head Missions. Number of their branches is many more. More than 1800 'Priests' are working in the head missions. There are 403 hospitals in which 500 doctors are working There are 43 printing presses and about 100 newspapers are printed in different languages. They are running 51 Colleges, 617 High Schools and 61 Training Colleges where 60,000 students study. In the (Christian) 'Salvation Army' there are 308 European and 2886 Indian priests. Under it (the 'Army') there are 507 Primary Schools in which 18,675 students study Eighteen colonies and 11 Dailies are their own. Under different departments of this Army 3,290 men are nourished. Result of these efforts and sacrifices is that it is said that 224 persons of different religions are being daily converted to Christianity. Against this, what are the Musalmans doing? Perhaps they do not consider this work worth their attention. Ahmadi Jamaat should think what is the position of their own efforts against such widespread net of Christian missionaries. We have only two dozen preachers in the whole of India and the difficult conditions under which they are working, we know that too".
This is the evidence produced by a Qadiani newspaper, 33 years after Mirza's death! It shows that Mirza s claim did no damage to Christianity Monotheism did not flourish at the cost of Trinity. His effort to stop the spread of Christianity failed.

Thus, Mirza's statement: "Therefore I am a liar if I fail in the manifestation of this essential intent..... And if nothing happens by the time I am dead then let everybody be witness that I am a liar" is a lie self-proved.

Excerpt No. 2: Mirza writes in Zamima Anjam-e-Atham: (P. 30-35).

"If within seven years, a distinct effect of my efforts does not appear by Allah's support in service of Islam and, since death of false religions is essential on the hands of Masih, if this death of false religions does not come by through me, i.e., if Allah, the Exalted, does not reveal those tokens through my hands which shall enhance Islam's success, as a result of which Islam starts to enter from all sides annihilating the void Christian Divinity and the world catching on a different hue, then, I swear by Allah that I shall consider myself a liar".
Comments: Mirza wrote the above in January, 1897, or thereabouts. In other words, his promised seven years' limit closed in 1903. By that year, Mirza had to fulfill his promise to substantiate his truthfulness, failing which he had sworn himself to be a liar. Now, readers know that nothing of that sort happened and his promise did not materialize according to the time-scale which he himself had stipulated. Thus, Mirza is a self-proclaimed liar.

Excerpt No. 3: It so happened during Ramadhan-ul-Mubarak of the year 1311 Hijri that lunar eclipse occurred on the 13th and solar eclipse on the 28th. Both eclipses chanced to fall during the same month. Mirza announced this phenomena as a proof of his 'Mahdviat' (being Mahdi). He declared that this supernatural abnormality was a special sign for his sake only and which had never occurred before during lifetime of any other claimant to Mahdviat, Masihiat or Prophethood.

In Magazine, 'Anwar-ul-Islam' (P. 47), Mirza wrote:

"Since the times that this world was created never did lunar and solar eclipses get together during the times of any claimant of Prophethood/ Messengership/ Muhaddathiat. If somebody says they have conjoined then burden of proof lies on him.
It never happened and certainly never happened from the start of the world till today that lunar and solar eclipses conjoined in this manner in Ramadhan and that some claimant to Prophethood, Messengership or Muhaddathiat was present at that time." (P. 40)

Comments: Mirza's lack of knowledge deserves pity. From the years Hijri 18 to Hijri 1312, lunar and solar eclipses have conjoined sixty times in Ramadhan alone; during these thirteen centuries there have been not one but dozens of claimants of Prophethood and Mahdviat. But Allah, the Exalted, willed that Mirza be proved a liar from his own ignorance.

Therefore Allah, the Exalted, made him write out this challenge:

"If these cruel Maulvis can produce an evidence of this type of conjunction of eclipses in the times of any claimant, they should come out with it. Undoubtedly, I shall go down as a liar, by this". (Appendix, Anjam-e-Atham, P. 48).
Here I produce evidence, not one but four.

  1. In Hijri 117, lunar and solar eclipses conjoined in month of Ramadhan in the times of a claimant, by name 'Treef' who was living in Aljazair;
  2. Again, Hijri 127 saw a conjunction of the eclipses and at that time a person called Saleh, son of Treef, was claimant of prophethood;
  3. A conjunction again occurred in 1267 Hijri in Iran where Mirza Ali Muhammad Bab was blowing his trumpet of Mahdviat for seven years;
  4. The Hijri of 1311 was again the year of conjunction when Mahdi Sudani was spreading his cult of Mahdviat in Sudan.
More historical proofs are available in respect of such phenomenal conjunctions in the lifetime of many claimants of prophethood and Mahdviat. For details refer to the following books:

  • 'Doosri Shadadat-e-Aasmani' by Maulana Abu Ahmad
  • 'Aimma-e-Talbis & Raees-e-Qadian' by Maulana Abul Qasim Dilawari
But the above four evidences are sufficient to prove Mirzas lies.

Excerpt No. 4: Mirza wrote in 'Izala-e-Auham': (P. 190, 1st edition; P. 79, 5th edition)

"O Brethren of Deen and theologians of inviolable Law! Listen, you people to my submissions intently; that the claim of the promised similar, which this humble has made, has been taken as the promised Masih by witless folks.... I have not certainly made this claim that I am Masih, son of Mariam. The person putting this blame on me is a downright slanderer and a liar".
Comments: The above clarifies the position. Mirza admits he was not the promised Masih and he confirms that those who consider him so, are 'witless folks, downright slanderers and liars'.

Except No. 5: Mirza wrote in Tuhfatun Nadwah: (P. 5)

  1. If I don't have knowledge of hidden things, then I am a liar;
  2. If death of Ibn-e-Mariam is not testified by Quran, then I am a liar;
  3. If Hadith-Mairaj did not make Ibn-e-Mariam sit among the dead souls, then I am a liar;
  4. If Quran did not declare in Sura 'Noor' that caliphs of this Ummat shall be from this very Ummat, then I am a liar;
  5. If Quran did not give me the name of Ibn-e-Mariam, then I am a liar".
Comments: Each and every claim above is wrong. Lies stand proved.

Excerpt No. 6: Mirza wrote in Tuhfatun Nadwah (P. 4):

"Allah, the Exalted, in His Holy Book says:.. ....That is, if this (person) will be telling lies he will be destroyed while you will be seeing him. His falsehood shall kill him. But if he is truthful then some of you shall become a target of his predictions and will depart from this mortal place while he will be seeing them. Now, test me on this basis which is in God's words and evaluate my claims".
Comments: We are ready to evaluate Mirza's claim on the basis set by him and draw these conclusions:

  1. Mirza engaged himself against Maulana Abdul Haq Ghaznavi in an imprecation of Mubahala. Right in front of his adversary's eyes Mirza met his doom. His falsehood killed him.
  2. During a tête-à-tête with another opponent, by name Maulana Sanaullah, Mirza indulging in curses, implored Allah to take away first the life of whosoever was a liar. And lo! Mirza died first while Maulana Sanaullah lived on to see him dead
  3. Mirza's rival-in-love was Sultan Muhammad Sahib. In burning jealously Mirza died of Cholera while Sultan Muhammad lived on after Mirza's death.
  4. Another opponent was Doctor Abdul Hakeem Khan. Mirza told him of the drawn sword of the Angel of Death hovering over his head and cursed him:
    "O my Provider! decide between the Liar and the Truthful!" 'Liar and the Truthful!'"
    And lo! Mirza died before Doctor Sahib's very eyes as a veritable liar!
The evidences of these four eye-witnesses amply testify Mirza's falsehood in accordance with the standards which he himself set forth.

Excerpt No. 7:On July 10, 1888, Mirza came forward to notify his "revelational foretelling", as follows:

"That Absolute Omnipotent has told me:
Start negotiations for the elder daughter (Muhammadi Begum) of that person (Ahmad Baig). In case of declination from Nikah, the end of that girl will be extremely bad and if she will be married to another person he, within two and a half years from and similarly father of that daughter within three years, will die."

"Then in those days, attention was applied again and again for further clarification and details. It came to be known that God Almighty determined that He will bring the elder daughter (Muhammadi Begum) of that person (i.e. Ahmad Baig) into Nikah of this humble self after removal of each hindrance".

"Be it clear to the evil-minded that in order to judge our truthfulness or falsehood there can be no greater touchstone of test than our predictions". (Majmua'i-e-Ishtharat Vol. I, pp. 157-159).

Comments: This touchstone, which Mirza settled for himself to ascertain his truthfulness, has come very handy.

On April 7, 1892, Ahmad Baig married his daughter, Muhammadi Begum, to one of his relatives namely Sultan Muhammad, resident of village Patti District Lahore.

Now, in accordance with Mirza's divine revelation:

  1. Muhammadi Begum ought to have been widowed by Oct. 6, 1894, but Allah, the Exalted, kept her safe from Mirza's evil eye and the couple lived happily together for no less than 57 years (i.e. 16 years in the lifetime of Mirza and 41 years after his death). From 1949 till 1966, Muhammadi Begum lived as a widow. In this way, she escaped the clutches of Mirza's 'divine revelation', 41 years earlier.
  2. Sultan Muhammad should have died six months earlier than his father-in-law but by Allah's grace he lived for 57 years after him.
  3. Ahmad Baig should have died after the death of his son-in-law and ought to have witnessed his daughter's widowhood and destitution but he departed earlier from the world, leaving his daughter and son-in-law happy in their life.
  4. Each and every hindrance for Nikah between Mirza and the lady was destined to be removed by God, as per Mirza's 'repeated attentions to the Absolute Omnipotent' for bringing her into Nikah of that 'humble self. Yet sorry! The Absolute Omnipotent did not help Mirza one bit, although he pursued the matter relentlessly. Poor Mirza failed miserably. The 'angel of death' wielded 'sword' over Mirza and he expired on May 26, 1908. Alas! he departed, burying pangs of love in his heart into his grave, coupled with heart-burning of jilt.
  5. According to Mirza's own words those who do not put his predictions on the touchstone of test for falsehood are 'the evil-minded'.
Excerpt No. 8:On the occasion of Nikah announcement of Muhammadi Begum, on July 10, 1888, Mirza prefaced the following two-verse piece on top of his communication:

Allah's Divine Power will strangely show itself up;
When the end result of my predictions will be visible.
Distinction between truth and falsehood is to appear;
Someone will get honor and some disgrace.
(Majmua-e-Ishtiharat, Vol. 1, P. 153).

Comments: Result of predictions was seen on 26th May, 1908, in Mirza's death. Allah's Divine Power showed itself up on that day. Despite his twenty years' continuous efforts along with his 'revelation' hoaxes, Mirza was deprived of Muhammadi Begum. In this way, truth and falsehood became distinct in the wake of which the lady was honored and Mirza disgraced. Who was a liar?

Excerpt No. 9:Mirza made several predictions in the case of Muhammadi Begum. Her parents, ignoring all these predictions, settled her Nikah elsewhere. Mirza was consumed with lover's cast-off jealousy. Not controlling himself, he blurted forth a letter to her paternal uncle, Mirza Ali Sher Baig, who was Mirza's brother-in-law as well. He wrote:

"Now, I have heard that the girl's Nikah is going to be solemnized on the 2nd or the 3rd Eid ..... Participants in this Nikah are my great enemies. Nay, they are great enemies of Islam. They want Christians to laugh at us and Hindus to make merry but they don't care a bit for the Deen of Allah and the Prophet".
"From their side, they are strongly determined to disgrace me and blacken my face. They are about to strike me with a sword. Now, to save me is the work of Allah, the Exalted. If I am His, He will surely save me. They want me to be dishonored and to have my face blackened. God is Absolute. He may blacken the face of whomsoever He likes but, now, they want to push me into fire".

Comments: Ah! The restlessness of Mirza for Muhammadi Begum and the coldness of her relatives. Woe betide! Enemies of Allah, enemies of the Prophet, enemies of Deen and enemies of Mirza are cutting into Mirza's core with the dagger ofNikah and turning him into a laughing stock of insult for the world.

Alas Mirza! Aglow with lover's fire! Allah's help, none!

Mirza bemoans in writhing agony:

"If I am His, He will surely save me".
Yes if he were His; otherwise, No. A straw from Allah for Mirza!

Excerpt No. 10:When Sultan Muhammad, Mirza's rival for Muhammadi Begum's hand, did not die within the period fixed by Mirza, he extended the duration of Sultan's life:

"Well, if not in two and a half years, certainly in my lifetime he will die. I declare that his living or not living is the test of my truthfulness or otherwise".
He wrote in Persian:

"But I have not told you that this matter has come to a close at this state and that the end result is what has appeared or that the fact of prediction has finished at that. The real premise stands on its own. Nobody, by any of his tricks, can evade it. This is fated from Great Allah as inevitable destiny (i.e. the predicted death of Sultan Muhammad whereby Mirza could consummate his longing for Sultan's wife) and shortly the time of its occurrence will come. I swear by that Allah Who raised Hazrat Muhammad Mustafa(SAW) for us to make him His best creation that this prediction is true and will soon be visible. I make it a proposition for testing my truthfulness or my falsehood. And I have not said it on my own but that my Provider Himself has informed me of it". (Anjam-e-Atham, P. 223)
Mirza declared Sultan Muhammad's imminent death as a proposition to test his truthfulness or falsehood, i.e., if Sultan Muhammad died in Mirza's lifetime then Mirza was true otherwise he was a liar.

What a pity that Mirza was a liar because he died in 1908 and Sultan Muhammad died in 1949.

Excerpt No. 11: Mirza wrote in case of Sultan Muhammad:

"Remember, if the second part of this prediction does not come true (i.e., son-in-law of Ahmad Baig does not die in Mirza's lifetime) then I shall be more wicked than every wicked man. O idiots! this is not a human's pretension. This is no business of any depraved impostor. Consider this definitely to be God's true promise, the same God Almighty Whose words never evade; the same Glorious Provider Whose intentions nobody can stop!" (Appendix, 'Anjam-e-Atham' , P. 54)
Comments: Because Sultan Muhammad did not die in Mirza's lifetime, the undermentioned conclusions are drawn:

  1. Mirza admits himself to be 'more wicked than every wicked man';
  2. His prediction was 'Pretension';
  3. His prediction was 'Business of any depraved impostor';
  4. If his claim was 'God's true promise' it could not possibly 'evade' because who 'can stop intentions of the 'Glorious Provider?';
  5. A person who does not understand this simple thing, Mirza gives him the title of 'idiot'.
Excerpt No. 12: Mirza wrote:

"I say again and again that quintessence of my prediction in case of the son-in-law of Ahmad Baig shall be his inevitable destiny. Wait for it. If I am a liar then this prediction will not be fulfilled and my death will come and, if I am truthful, then God Almighty will certainly fulfill it'. (Marginal note P. 31, Anjam-e-Atham)
Comments: How shameful! Ahmad Baig's son-in-law did not die during Mirza's lifetime. Thus Mirza had said correctly: "If I am a liar then this prediction will not be fulfilled, and my death will come."

Excerpt No. 13: Mirza, in support of his 'heavenly' Nikah, had reasoned out from a Prophetic Hadith, (as written by him in 'Anjam-e-Atham', P. 53 Annex):

"For corroboration of this prediction, the holy Prophet of Allah(SAW) has also previously predicted: the promised Masih will take a wife and have children. Now it is obvious that this mention of marriage and children normally bears no significance because every one generally marries and has children. There is no excellence in it. But here marriage means special marriage as a token and by children is meant special children for which the prediction of this humble self is there. It looks as if the Prophet of Allah(SAW) is answering here the doubts of those black-hearted unbelievers that these sayings will certainly be fulfilled".
Comments: Allah, the Exalted, kept Mirza deprived of that 'special marriage' and from those 'special children', proving that Mirza's claim of 'Promised Masihship' was false and that the prophetic prediction did not fit upon him. The holy saying was with regard to Hazrat Isa (peace be on him) that he would marry and would have children on his second appearance on earth Mirza has himself written about those persons who disbelieve his appearance: "The Prophet of Allah(SAW) is answering here the doubts of those black-hearted unbelievers that these sayings will certainly be fulfilled."

Excerpt No. 14: For fifteen days, Mirza carried on arguments with a Christian Priest, named Abdulla Atham. Having failed to give him a defeat he announced his revelation, on 5th June 1893, that within fifteen months his adversary would be thrown into 'haviya' (the hell), unless he returned to the truth. Mirza wrote in this case:

"I admit right this time that if this prediction goes false, that is, if within fifteen months from this date, the party who is on falsehood in view of Allah, does not fall into 'Haviya' as death punishment, then I am prepared to undergo every type of punishment: disgrace me, blacken my face, collar a rope around my neck or hang me on the gallows. I am ready for all. I swear by the Greatness of Allah's Glory that He will certainly do the same, will certainly do the same, will certainly do the same. Earth and sky my deviate but not His Ordainment. If I am a liar, keep the gallows ready for me and consider me the most accursed of all the accursed persons, evil-doers and Satans". (Jung-e-Muqaddas, P. 189)
Comments: Mirza's prediction expired on 5th September, 1894 but Atham neither renounced Christianity, nor accepted Islam, nor fell into "Haviya" in death punishment. Nothing of the sort happened and everything sailed smooth.

Mirza went to the extent of invoking charms over Atham, throwing over him spells and witchcraft ('Seerat-ul-Mahdi', P. 188, Vol. 1), but nothing happened.

On the last day, when this prediction was ending (i.e. 5th September), he implored Allah, cried out and lamented: "Ya Allah! Atham may die, Atham may die, Ya Allah! Atham may die" (Al-Fazl, dated 20th July 1940). But Atham lived on. Magic, charms, witchcraft and spells did him no damage. Allah rejected Mirza's implorations, lamentations and curses. Atham grew all the more prosperous!

On the other hand, Mirza had proposed his own punishment as a liar: "Disgrace me, blacken my face, collar a rope around my neck or hang me on the gallows... keep the gallows ready for me, think of me as the most accursed of all the accursed persons, evil-doers and Satans". Consequently, how did the opposing party carry out this instruction of Mirza Saheb? It can be guessed by the dirty announcements which were published on the expiration of the fixed time. What his adversaries did? They heaped on Mirza such filthy abusive epithets that it shall be indecent to print them here. But a couplet, which became popular on public tongues may be reproduced here:

"Shameless perverse are also in this world; But you shame-proof, have surpassed all!"
This was an echo to Mirza's own acknowledgment: "Most accursed of all the accursed, evil doers and Satans." Really he was so, otherwise how Allah would have failed him before a 'Kafir' Christian?

Excerpt No. 15: Mirza wrote in Shahadat-ul-Quran: (P. 80).

"In addition to this, there are similar other magnificent tokens of this humble self on the test list: There is my prediction in respect of Munshi Abdulla Atham Sahib Amritsari, the term of which is fifteen months beginning from 5th June, (1893). My other prediction is in respect of the son-in-law of Mirza Ahmad Baig, resident of Patti, District Lahore, term of which has eleven months more from today the 21st September, 1893. All these matters which are totally beyond human power are sufficient to identify the true from the liar".
Comments: This is exactly the modus-operandi in which a liar is distinguishable from a truthful person, that is, if these predictions are fulfilled as per duration of their terms then the teller of the predictions will be considered truthful. As the predictions failed, therefore Mirza is identified as a proven liar. No other argument is necessary to prove Mirza's lies.

Excerpt No. 16: Mirza announced:

"In the end, I beseech You, O God! Almighty, All-Knowing, if these predictions are not from You that Atham will be caught in fatal tortures and Ahmad Baig's elder daughter coming ultimately into Nikah of this humble self then destroy me with disgrace and disappointment. Efface me, perish me with insults, make me permanent target of accursed imprecations, please my enemies, accept their prayers if, in Your estimate, I am a driven outcast, accursed charlatan and one-eyed anti-Christ impostor ('Dajjal') as my opponents have understood me, and if that Benevolence of Yours is not with me which was with...... " (so and so saints and prophets: here Mirza has named many saints and prophets). (Ishtihar dated Oct. 27, 1894, reproduced from Majmu'a Ishtiharat P. 116, Vol. 2).
Comments: Despite these heart-rending entreaties and self-accursements, Allah did keep Mirza deprived of Nikah with Muhammadi Begum until he breathed his last. From this it appears that Mirza, according to his own statements, was 'a driven outcast, accursed charlatan and one-eyed anti-Christ impostor ('Dajjal') as his opponents have understood him'.

Alas! As a result of this self-cursing he perished in disgrace and disappointment, became a permanent target of accursed imprecations, his enemies became happy and their prayers were accepted by Allah.

Excerpt No. 17: Mirza in his communication to Maulana Sanaullah Amritsari wrote:

"In your paper, you build up this reputation for me that this person imputes falsely, is a liar and is one-eyed anti-Christ impostor ('Dajjal'). I have borne a lot of tortures from you but endured them patiently........ if I am really a liar, an impostor and a charlatan, as you remember me in your paper then I will perish in your lifetime". (Advertisement, Moulvi Sanaullah Saheb se Aakhri Faislah, Majmua-e-lshtiharat, Vol. 3, P. 578)
Comments: Mirza died on 26th May, 1908, in the lifetime of Maulana. Mirza's words are proven: "If I am really a liar, an impostor and a charlatan, as you remember me in your paper then I will perish in your lifetime". Mirza was a 'truthful' liar, therefore died earlier.

Excerpt No. 18: In the same advertisement addressed to Maulana Sanaullah Amritsar, Mirza wrote:

"If that punishment which is not in the hands of a human being but only in God's Hands, such as plague, cholera, etc., and similar fatal diseases and if the same do not descend upon you in my lifetime then I am not god-sent".
Comments: Allah, the Exalted, kept Maulana safe from every affliction in Mirza's lifetime and fulfilled this proposal of Mirza:. "Then I am not God-sent."

Excerpt No. 19: Mirza implores Allah in the above-quoted Aakhri Faislah.

"O God! If this claim of the 'promised Masih' is only a false imputation from the 'self in me and in Your eyes I am a mischievous liar, then O my dear Master! Humbly I implore in Your Audience to put me to death in Maulana Sanaullah's life-time. Ameen".
Comments: This prayer of Mirza came to be accepted; Mirza died while Maulana Sanaullah lived on. Proved: Mirza was a mischievous liar in the eyes of Allah the Exalted. Further proved: Mirza's claim of being 'promised Masih' was false imputation of his 'self and that Maulana Sanaullah was righteous.

Would that Mirza had implored Allah for his guidance instead of his death! Perhaps that would also have been accepted.

Excerpt No. 20: Mirza further wrote:

"O my Omnipotent! O Who has sent me down! Holding the garment of Your Sanctity and Mercy only, I beg in Your audience to honor us with a true decision between Maulana Sanaullah and myself. And he who in Your eyes is really a mischievous liar, lift him from the world in the very lifetime of whosoever is truthful. O Master! do it this Way. Ameen".
Comments: This request of Mirza was also accepted. Maulana Sanaullah was truthful hence Mirza, struck by cholera, was lifted from the world in Maulana Sanaullah's lifetime. Mirza got from Allah what he asked from his mouth. It proved that Mirza was a mischievous liar.

Excerpt No. 21: Mirza wrote in Zamima Anjam-e-Atham, P. 20- 21:

"Shaikh Muhammad Hussain Batalvi and other notable opponents may hold a Mubahala with me. After theMubahala, even if one person could save himself from my imprecations then I will admit I am a liar".
Comments:
Under this arrangement, Maulana Abdul Haq Ghaznavi held a Mubahala with Mirza. Result was that Mirza died in the lifetime of Maulana Sahib. Thus, Mirza's covenant is corroborated: "I am a liar".

Excerpt No. 22: Mirza's writings show that he was a patient of 'Hyster-malaise.' He said so in conversations also. Doctors confirmed it. Others also said about it. Proofs are given below:

  1. "You behold! Hazrat(SAW) had foretold about my illness also which has come to pass likewise: He had said that when Masih will descend from the sky he will be wearing two saffron-colored sheets of cloth. Therefore, same way, I have two diseases, one in the upper part of the body, viz., Hysteromania, and the other, excessive urination, in the lower part". (Malfoozat-e-Mirza Ghulam Ahmad Qadiani, Vol. 8, P. 445);
  2. "My condition is such that, despite my constant involvement in two diseases, I remain preoccupied with work that I carry on very late having closed doors of the house at night. Although the disease of Hyster-malaise increases as a result, and my head feels more dizzy due to wakefulness, yet I don't care and continue with my work". (Ibid. Vol. 2, P. 376);
  3. "Hazrat Khalifat-ul-Masih-ul-Awwal said to hazrat promised Masih: "Your Honor! Ghulam Nabi suffers from Melancholia." The honourable was pleased to reply: "In a way, all the prophets suffered from Melancholia and I also suffer from the same". (Seerat-ul-Mahdi, P. 304, Vol. 3);
  4. "Doctor Mir Muhammad Ismail Sahib told me that he had heard many times from hazrat sahib, the promised Masih, that he suffered from Hysteria and also mentioned Melancholia. But the truth is that signs of nervous disorders developed in him only as a result of his diligent mental work and day and night preoccupation with literary compositions. These are often seen in patients of Hysteria (and Melancholia) also." (Seerat-ul-Mahdi, Vol. 2, P. 55);
  5. "This disease, having occurred once in the family, was bound to penetrate into the next off- spring. Therefore hazrat Khilafat-ul-Masih Thani, Mian Mahmud Ahmad Sahib, told me that occasionally, he also got an attack of Hyster-Malaise". (From: Article written by Doctor Shah Nawaz Sahib Qadiani, reproduced in Magazine 'Review Of Religions,' Qadian, August, 1926, P. 11);
  6. "The cause of all his troubles such as vertigo, headache, sleeplessness, heart cramps, indigestion, diarrhea, excessive urination and hystermalaise was only one and that was his weakness of nerves". (From the magazine: 'Review Qadian, May 1927, P. 26);
  7. "Some patient of Melancholia think: "I am king"; Some think "I am God", some think "I am Prophet." (From Bayaz-Noor-ud-Din, P. 212, Vol. 10).
Comments: We have sufficed here to give only seven opinions and findings from all those who are Qadianis and it is possible to give more opinions as well but for the-sake of brevity we stop. However, it is confirmed without any doubt that Mirza Ghulam Ahmad was Hyster-maniac.

It shall be worthwhile to give medical opinion of experts of Medicine on this disease of Melancholia -- Hyster-Malaise. It will be noted that Mirza Ghulam Ahmad suffered from them all.

  1. From: 'Qanoon', Part One, Book three, Author Shaikh-ur-Raees. Boo Ali Seena:
    "Melancholia is that malady in which worries and anxieties take the form of imagined horrors and dreads as opposed to the normal. Its cause is atrabilious temperament which takes away the entire essence of brain, leaving the patient effectually distracted. Or the other cause of this malady is extreme heating-up of the liver called Hyster-malaise. What happens is that excrement of victuals and intestinal disorders through vapors collect in the liver and humours of the body burn up and take the form of mania. Then black fumes arise from these parts and go towards the head. It is this condition which is called melancholic- flatulence, melancholic-fumigation or melancholic- hystermalaise".
  2. From: ' Sharah-ul Asbab wal Alamat-Amraz, Malikhonia'. Author: Allama Burhan ud bin Nafees.
    "When thoughts and ideas change from the normal path into fears and disorders it is called Melancholia.. With some patient this disturbance reaches to such limits that he starts to consider himself a Diviner, with a knowledge of hidden things. He informs in advance of what is going to happen later.. this disease increases in some patient so much so that he thinks himself to have been transformed into an angel."
  3. From: Same Author above:
    "There is a branch of Melancholia, called Hystermania. This is caused by strong black bile that accumulates in the digestive tract. From that part of the body in which this matter accumulates rise black vapors that envelop brain. Its symptoms are: belching out bitter fumes, finding food tasteless, taste of edibles reduced, worsening of digestion, belly inflation, stool liquefaction and rising of smoke-like fumes. "
  4. From: 'Makhzan-e-Hikmat' Second Edition, Author Shamsul Atibba, Hakim Doctor Ghulam Jilani.
    "Previous theory was that this disease manifested itself into disorders, arising from animal faculty or from those vital principles of amiability that originate from liver or digestive tract. But later researches indicate that this disease takes from nerves... in the men nervous internal system produces weaknesses of brain and is called Hyster-malaise.
  5. "Symptoms of this disease are: patient's letharginess and his anxiousness. He develops feelings of egotism, conceit and self-estimation. He is apt to exaggerate in his conversations, feels little appetite and suffers from Dyspepsia".
  6. From: 'Ikseer-e-Azam,' Vol. 1, P. 189, Author Hakim Muhammad Azam Khan.
    "Symptoms of this disease are: digestive disorders, bitter vaporous belches, constant mouth watering, belly flatulence, bowels grumbling, stomach inflated and heated, false appetite vapors rising towards palate in fumes... Sometimes upper part of the body shivers and shakes, knock-down in severe attack, fainting and swooning..... sudden forgetfulness, drooping eye-lids, suffocation while swallowing, sudden lightning-like sparkle flashing in front of the eyes .......
  7. From: Same Author above:
    "Patient, if a religious scholar, lays claim to miracles, to prophet hood and to supernatural powers. He talks of Divinity and preaches to men."
Comments: All the symptoms laid down by the experts of Medicine were present in Mirza to the utmost extent. Very true, he was a patient of Melancholic Hyster-malaise.

There can be no better statement than the categorical pronouncement of no less a person than the so-called 'Khalifat ul Masih Thani', Mian Mahmud Ahmad himself, in which he said that the disease of Hysteria was present in Mirza Ghulam Ahmad: "Men also have this disease and those who suffer from this are called Hyster-Maniacs." (From Friday Sermon, by Mian Mahmud Ahmad, Khalifa Qadian, reproduced in Newspaper, 'Al-Fazl' Qadian Vol. 10, dated April 30, 1923).

Mirza laid claims, very intensely, right from prophethood to Godhood. He called himself superior to all revered prophets and claimed to have performed one million miracles. He also claimed to be the King of the Aryans! He invited people to adopt his religion and those who rejected him he called them atheists, 'Kafirs', and Hellish folks. He found faults with all the Prophets, (peace upon them all) called respectful Companions of Our Prophet(SAW) (Allah be pleased with them all), as silly fools, and abused the saints of the entire Ummat. He called Quranic commentators erring folks. He reproached narrators of the Traditions and categorized Ulemas of the Ummat with Jews. He dubbed the whole Ummat as "gone astray from the path" and passed obscene remarks against learned men and pious persons.

Can a godly person or a religious revivalist stoop so low?

Certainly, Mirza Ghulam Ahmad was a maniac of Melancholic-Hyster-malaise.

A Heart-felt Submission to Qadianis

With utmost sincerity of heart, I make this submission to you.

  1. It is possible that contents of this article have displeased you at places but my part is actually this much that I have quoted from Mirza's own writings. Making those a basis, I have evaluated facts. If you don't agree with my evaluation, then I leave it to you to judge for yourselves his truth or falsehood on the touchstone of his writings.
  2. I tell you that all our revered prophets were most dignified souls. What to speak of them, even respectable saints and pious elders of our Ummat never tied challenges of truth/untruth. Their call to righteousness was direct. Here we find Mirza stipulating horrible bids for his veracity again and again. No sooner did he lose the wager, he tied another. Can such a gamble ever be a modus-operandi of chosen souls of Allah's faithful creatures? This point alone should suffice to guide anyone to truth provided Allah has bestowed him with judgment and insight.
  3. Have you noticed that whereas Mirza risked his entire career over these gambles, Allah the Exalted, on the other hand, if I may say so, vowed to let Mirza never succeed in saying a thing, conditional on his truth. Anything Mirza would say, Allah would bring it to naught.

    For example, Mirza swore:

    1. 'Sultan Muhammad will die';
    2. 'Abdulla Atham will die';
    3. 'Sanaullah will die';
    4. 'Abdul Haq Ghaznavi will die';

    and so on and so forth, "else call me a liar." Against this was the fated ordainment that the more he would resort to swearing the more impossible they would become.

    Indeed, it was a limit on the part of Mirza that when predicting about the death of an unholy Christian, he acknowledged himself to be 'the greatest accursed man on the earth' if that did not happen. And true enough, it did not happen. Allah, the Exalted, refused Mirza's plea against a defiled 'Worshipper of Cross.' (Mirza's words) Is 'here any instance to compare with it?' For Allah's sake. Wonder over it.
  4. If on the Day of Judgment, Allah the Exalted, puts this Question to Mirza Ghulam Ahmad why did you mislead people by claiming to be a prophet after Hazrat 'Khatam-Un-Nabieen'(SAW)?

    And in reply, if Mirza submits: "Ya Allah! I was a patient of Melancholic-Hyster-malaise. I told my people that I was a 'Miraqi' and even wrote it so in my books. Doctors said I was a maniac of Hysteria. Pray ask these 'sages' (the Qadianis) why did they follow nonsensical eruptions of a diseased 'Miraqi' maniac and accepted me as their Prophet and Masih".
Then, my Brethren-in-humanity, what will you say in reply to Allah?
 
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Mr Quran and sunnah are both part of Islam Mr and this ayat you mentioned is for those who came before Islam Mr other wise ALLAH has also said in the same Quran that when ALLAH says it has completely Islam and it will not accept any thing other than Islam Mr and yes not following Hadees only makes a person Kharji because they were the first ones to deny Hadees

How can you say that ?? Who told you ? Why do you guys always try to (mis)interpret Quran as per your wishes ?? And stop repeating stupid things , read the previous posts and reply logically (with proof) instead of repeating stupid baseless lies again and again . Read a few things , dont act like a typical brain washed Mullah follower


Not by force, my friend. Some may believe by force, but Ahmadis believe that the Messiah will present logical arguments and signs in support of Islam which will inevitably draw people to Islam. I believe the forcefully part is an invention of the ignorant jahil mullahs who have totally misunderstood the mission of Hazrat Muhammad (saw). I agree with everything else in your comment.

(Not trying to preach:astagh:, just letting you know about Ahmadi beliefs, as they are mostly twisted and hidden from the masses by introducing stupid laws.)

The basic logic behind waiting for Mahdi/Messiah is that he will come and wage a war against Dajjal & co (also not mentioned in Quran) . And Mullahs believe that America is the Dajjal and educated people are followers of Dajjal . They believe that Mahdi will appear around the time of "Ghazva e Hind" (another of weak hadith based story) and Jesus will come after the conquest of India . So all this is about "war and conquest" in the popular belief . Muslims have adopted this story from the christians basically . (just like many other stories e.g the details of the story about Habeel and Qabeel which is not even in the book of genesis but in Midrash only) .It is much more logical If one does not believe in the "forcefully" part , but still second coming of Jesus (or Mahdi) is something which is not mentioned in Holy Quran , hence believing in it can not be not an essential part of Islamic faith (as per my understanding)
 
How can you say that ?? Who told you ? Why do you guys always try to (mis)interpret Quran as per your wishes ?? And stop repeating stupid things , read the previous posts and reply logically (with proof) instead of repeating stupid baseless lies again and again . Read a few things , dont act like a typical brain washed Mullah follower




The basic logic behind waiting for Mahdi/Messiah is that he will come and wage a war against Dajjal & co (also not mentioned in Quran) . And Mullahs believe that America is the Dajjal and educated people are followers of Dajjal . They believe that Mahdi will appear around the time of "Ghazva e Hind" (another of weak hadith based story) and Jesus will come after the conquest of India . So all this is about "war and conquest" in the popular belief . Muslims have adopted this story from the christians basically . (just like many other stories e.g the details of the story about Habeel and Qabeel which is not even in the book of genesis but in Midrash only) .It is much more logical If one does not believe in the "forcefully" part , but still second coming of Jesus (or Mahdi) is something which is not mentioned in Holy Quran , hence believing in it can not be not an essential part of Islamic faith (as per my understanding)
Mr all their in Hadees and History Books it was Kharjis who used to say Quran in enough for us and what things they did we all know first one to say Quran is enough for us were Kharjis which appeared in last time of HAZRAT MUHAMMAD SAW and kept appearing in time of Sahabas specially in time of HAZRAT ALI RA

Kharjis used to often come to Sahabas when they were telling Hadees or Sunnah to their students and would say we have Quran we don't need any other thing and every time Sahaba used to ask them counter questions and they used to run away and than Sahaba used to tell their students they are Kharjis and HAZRAT MUHAMMAD SAW told these signs of Kharjis
 
Mr all their in Hadees and History Books it was Kharjis who used to say Quran in enough for us and what things they did we all know first one to say Quran is enough for us were Kharjis which appeared in last time of HAZRAT MUHAMMAD SAW and kept appearing in time of Sahabas specially in time of HAZRAT ALI RA

Kharjis used to often come to Sahabas when they were telling Hadees or Sunnah to their students and would say we have Quran we don't need any other thing and every time Sahaba used to ask them counter questions and they used to run away and than Sahaba used to tell their students they are Kharjis and HAZRAT MUHAMMAD SAW told these signs of Kharjis

Hazrat Umer r.a also said "Book of Allah is enough for us" , He banned narrating of Hadith during his caliphate , So by your stupid definition , he was the head of Kharijis !!! ??
 
Hazrat Umer r.a also said "Book of Allah is enough for us" , He banned narrating of Hadith during his caliphate , So by your stupid definition , he was the head of Kharijis !!! ??
He never said that every time he used to tell people as long as I follow Quran and Sunnah follow me if I don't than don't follow me and that is what Quran says follow your leaders but if you have dispute with them return to Quran and Sunnah

In fact once HAZRAT UMAR RA came on mehrab and said if I don't decide according to Quran and Sunnah what will you do one man stood and took out sword and said we would do this HAZRAT UMAR RA appreciated that man and thanked ALLAH and said if I would go astray my people will bring back me to Quran and Sunnah on point of sword
 
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