For those who make fun at China's jet engine

[boomslang]

When was the last time a Chinese engine, fighter jet or pilot was combat tested ?

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

When was the last time a Chinese engine, fighter jet or pilot was combat tested ?

Yes, it has successfully intercepted a P-8A.

 

[boomslang]

Yes, it has successfully intercepted a P-8A.

Not much of a 'combat test'.

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

Not much of a 'combat test'.

Do you count the military drilling/training as one?

Since nearly half of our aircraft fighters now use the domestic engine with the pilots being awarded for the outstanding performance.

The golden helmet is the ultimate award.

 

[ArsalanKhan21]

China has achieved hundreds breakthrough in its attempts to manufacture aircraft engines. According to media reports the Chinese have not figure out the alloy composites of making a reliable heat bearing jet engine. So the WS-10 turbofans tend to have blades that crack and break apart sucking debris into the engine. WS-10 also has shorter lifespans than original AL-31 turbofans because metal alloys in WS-10 reportedly break and can’t handle the high heat. Also WS-10 turbofans have ‘spooling’ issues with their turbofans. It’s a lot more looming problem for the Chinese engineers than just advanced computerized production machinery. Plus WS-10 is not powerful enough to allow the feature ‘super cruise’ ability of F-22, F-35, and the future PAK FA-50.

Liming WS10A Engine

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

China has achieved hundreds breakthrough in its attempts to manufacture aircraft engines. According to media reports the Chinese have not figure out the alloy composites of making a reliable heat bearing jet engine. So the WS-10 turbofans tend to have blades that crack and break apart sucking debris into the engine. WS-10 also has shorter lifespans than original AL-31 turbofans because metal alloys in WS-10 reportedly break and can’t handle the high heat. Also WS-10 turbofans have ‘spooling’ issues with their turbofans. It’s a lot more looming problem for the Chinese engineers than just advanced computerized production machinery. Plus WS-10 is not powerful enough to allow the feature ‘super cruise’ ability of F-22, F-35, and the future PAK FA-50.

Liming WS10A Engine

BS report.

What do you think our extrusion press machines were made for?

 

[ArsalanKhan21]

BS report.

China has achieved great progress in manufacturing fighter jet engines. China is still buying Russian engines as it waits for WS-10 to improve its performance. I am sure WS-10 is being used on J-10, J-11B, J-16 etc but China still uses reliable Russian engines until WS-10 meets the combat requirements of Chinese Air Force. Some have referred to the engine program comparatively as China's Apollo program.

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

China has achieved great progress in manufacturing fighter jet engines. China is still buying Russian engines as it waits for WS-10 to improve its performance. I am sure WS-10 is being used on J-10, J-11B, J-16 etc but China still uses reliable Russian engines until WS-10 meets the combat requirements of Chinese Air Force. Some have referred to the engine program comparatively as China's Apollo program.

Because our air force is now almost becoming larger than Russia's, so we cannot produce a such large number of domestic engine in a very short period.

Not mentioning that we are now also focusing on WS-15, so we cannot solely focus on increasing the quantity of the WS-10 engine.

The WS-10 engine is not as mature as the current AL-31, but pretty similar to the AL-31 from a decade ago. So it is also pretty mature, and most of our pilots are now flying with it.

 

[Beast]

China has achieved great progress in manufacturing fighter jet engines. China is still buying Russian engines as it waits for WS-10 to improve its performance. I am sure WS-10 is being used on J-10, J-11B, J-16 etc but China still uses reliable Russian engines until WS-10 meets the combat requirements of Chinese Air Force. Some have referred to the engine program comparatively as China's Apollo program.

There are no more report of new engine purchase from russia anymore since 2013. Given the growing size of Chinese airforce and usually, we will make new deal every 2 years but it has not happen anymore.

 

[My-Analogous]

First of all, you need to have an idea about the country you are making fun of.

Do you think who now has one of the most advanced extrusion presses?

Maximum vertical extrusion press extrusion first team thick seamless steel pipe | shijiananvip001

Do you know that the disc alloy of the turbofan engine was forged by these extrusion presses?

And here is the US counterpart, and where is the UK and France? Because all you have to do is to send your pieces to the US and ask them to do the forgery for you.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Precision_Castparts_Corp.

So stop comparing yourselves with China, since China has its own complete technological ecosystem, while you guys depend on the US on most of parts.

Next 10 years is very important for China and then all the fun will be with China and the rest will just shake their heads. Go fast as Godspeed my iron brother.