For those who make fun at China's jet engine

[jhungary]

you never know how many Chinese engineers and pilot died for jet engine development.

lol then you dont know how many people died for the CFM 53 engine used in Boeing 737, it went past 1,000 the other day and will only be more if the engine are still in circulation.

 

[帅的一匹]

lol then you dont know how many people died for the CFM 53 engine used in Boeing 737, it went past 1,000 the other day and will only be more if the engine are still in circulation.

the start point is different, we start from higher level. the way we do things are extremely cautious. we reference to lots of tragedy in the past.

 

[jhungary]

the start point is different, we start from higher level. the way we do things are extremely cautious. we reference to lots of tragedy in the past.

lol, then good luck

 

[帅的一匹]

you shall believe the ability of Chinese engineers, since you have Chinese blood in your vein.

 

[Beidou2020]

UK and France is nothing without the US.

China will surpass the US even in jet engines.

No one is beating China this century.

 

[j20dragon]

Only an idiot would say we can't produce engine. The issue is not that we can't produce engine. The issue is that we lack enough precision manufacturing plant and machinery to produce in large quantity. Thus the need to buy from foreign firms to help with the supply demand. Give us another decade or two as we are slowly addressing this problem and building more precision plants. We have the blueprint, technique, and skill. We only need time. Time will also help maturing an engine and allowing us to trial and error.

 

[vsdave2302]

First of all, you need to have an idea about the country you are making fun of.

Do you think who now has one of the most advanced extrusion presses?

Maximum vertical extrusion press extrusion first team thick seamless steel pipe | shijiananvip001

Do you know that the disc alloy of the turbofan engine was forged by these extrusion presses?

And here is the US counterpart, and where is the UK and France? Because all you have to do is to send your pieces to the US and ask them to do the forgery for you.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Precision_Castparts_Corp.

So stop comparing yourselves with China, since China has its own complete technological ecosystem, while you guys depend on the US on most of parts.

just few days back there were news that China shall use russian engine in its Jet. Now a new great wave of Sarcasm has hit some Chinese. J10 is better than rafale, China shall overtake US in engine technology.

 

[Martian2]

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[Beast]

just few days back there were news that China shall use russian engine in its Jet. Now a new great wave of Sarcasm has hit some Chinese. J10 is better than rafale, China shall overtake US in engine technology.

Stop making up news. Using bogus source and link does not prove your point.

 

[Martian2]

Chinese Show Fadec System on Military Engine | Defense: Aviation International News

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

Only an idiot would say we can't produce engine. The issue is not that we can't produce engine. The issue is that we lack enough precision manufacturing plant and machinery to produce in large quantity. Thus the need to buy from foreign firms to help with the supply demand. Give us another decade or two as we are slowly addressing this problem and building more precision plants. We have the blueprint, technique, and skill. We only need time. Time will also help maturing an engine and allowing us to trial and error.

We lack the skillful assembly workers for most of the known problems.

Since the policy of the workers' retirement at the age of 55 is effing retarded, the proper age for the retirement should be around 65.

BTW, the assembly workers of the age around 60 are truly the jewels of the high-end manufacturing sectors, since they are capable of producing the real craftsmanship with those cumulative experiences and capabilities.

 

[Beast]

I think also people forget the turboshaft of China has made geat stride. Our WZ-10 gunship,Z-19, Z-20 and Z-18 are all using domestic engine since PW Canada was fined once by US for supplying turbo shaft to China military. So no way those engine in those helo are foreign supply. All domestic build.

 

[MilSpec]

First of all, you need to have an idea about the country you are making fun of.

Do you think who now has one of the most advanced extrusion presses?

Maximum vertical extrusion press extrusion first team thick seamless steel pipe | shijiananvip001

Do you know that the disc alloy of the turbofan engine was forged by these extrusion presses?

And here is the US counterpart, and where is the UK and France? Because all you have to do is to send your pieces to the US and ask them to do the forgery for you.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Precision_Castparts_Corp.

So stop comparing yourselves with China, since China has its own complete technological ecosystem, while you guys depend on the US on most of parts.

And still buys Al31 and rd33 .... lol

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

And still buys Al31 and rd33 .... lol

To fulfill the quantity.

Since we don't have enough WS-10 to fulfill all the need of our air force.

Just why the US keeps buying the Russian cryogenic rocket engines?

Billion-dollar deal: Russia to sell space rocket engines to US company — RT News

And I didn't expect a think tank member to throw out the argument like a simpleton.

 

[MilSpec]

To fulfill the quantity.

Since we don't have enough WS-10 to fulfill all the need of our air force.

And I didn't expect a think tank member to throw out the argument like a simpleton.

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Chengdu J-10 powered by Saturn-Lyulka AL-31FN

Shenyang J-11 powered by Saturn-Lyulka AL-31FN

Xian JH-7 powered by Rolls-Royce Spey Mk 202

Shenyang J-8 powered by twin Chinese variant of Tumansky R-13-300 turbojet

Chengdu J-7 powered by Chinese variant of Tumansky R-13-300 turbojet

Xian H-6 powered by Mikulin AM-3

Hongdu JL8 powered by Garrett TFE731-2A-2A turbofan

Hongdu L-15 powered by 2 × Ivchenko Progress AI-222K-25F afterburning turbofans

Harbin Y-12 powered by 2 × Pratt & Whitney Canada PT6A-27 turboprop

Shaanxi Y-8 powered by 4 x License-built copy of the Turbomeca Turmo

Xian H-6 powered by 2 x Mikulin AM-3

J31 powered by 2 x Rd 33

J20 Powered by 2 x Saturn-Lyulka AL-31FN