Footage shows Uighurs blindfolded, handcuffed in masses

[moweike]

Why do you chinese guys get so worked up about mild criticism? Did i damn china, just pointed out flawed policies of your president. No country is perfect.

mild criticism?yes，No country is perfect，why don't you pay attention to your own business? Is Pakistan perfect?

 

[Pan-Islamic-Pakistan]

A president who can not hold his words should NOT be a president in the first place then.

A typical double talk personality, not surprised at all. We knew you guys since Tang dynasty.


I think @Dai Toruko is CIA funded mouth piece. I have no proof, just some doubts. The purpose is crystal clear:

Create mistrust between Pakistan, Turkey and China. Basically old "Divide and Rule" strategy, so that Pakistan and Turkey can be isolated and attacked. This can only benefit US, Israel and India.


Personally I don't like or dislike Turks, we are two far away countries. China is not Turkey's enemy at all, both countries has no geopolitical conflicts at all.

All those chaos were funded since Ottoman Empire, first create mistrust between Turks and Arabs to disassemble Ottoman Empire, then incite Turks to fight against Russian Empire.

In cold war era, Turks were incited by CIA and some other political movement to fight against USSR, in the name of Central Asia Turkish descent.

Those easily incited Turks don't understand Turkey national interest, some are paid, some are brainwashed.

China foreign policy is pragmatic as always. China never fund Kurds to revenge. We wait for Turkey foreign policy changes patiently.

I believe Pakistan can help to bring Turkey and China together.

I don’t believe @Dai Toruko is a CIA agent, but actually he represents popular Turkish sentiment.

Uyghur issue is popular in Turkey as it represents an issue where the society can come together for fellow Turks.

Although the Islamic world does not have any enmity with China, which considered by us as a neutral and peripheral civilization, Turkish history does have conflict with China as a major part of its civilizational consciousness. Stories like what Turks went through during the times of Kürşat reinforce those negative feelings.

As far as Arab revolt, that represented a minority of Arabs, namely Sharifs of Makkah who became British stooges and the Ahl e Saud who rose with British, French support from the Najd wasteland. We can clearly see the foreign hands in this disunity of the Islamic Khilafat.

As far as Russia, it was during the rise of the time of the Czars, their extremist brand of Orthodox Christianity, and vengeance against the Golden Horde, that led to the first genocides of Muslim people of the Caucasus (Circassians), Crimea, Tatarstan, and Central Asia.

Russia invaded, conquered Turkish and Iranian land, which it consequently cleansed of Muslim populations.

Turkey was forced to absorb refugees and victims of those organized genocides.

As regards USSR, this country was an existential threat to the whole of the Islamic world, and it continued Russia’s history of displacing and massacring Muslim populations in Eurasia.

It was not until their bloody, and frankly villainous, invasion of Afghanistan (and Pakistan) that the whole of the Islamic world resolves to end this oppression. Pakistan played an important and key role in organizing the resistance and ensuring the final death nail to Soviet Russia.

In conclusion, I see many Chinese members do not understand the history and religious viewpoints of the majority of Muslims.

It would be wise to research the history and civilization of 25% of the human race, and soon to be the largest religious group on Earth.

So much of CPEC depends on Pakistan and Turkey. We have a mutual benefit in supplanting the current world order, in favor of a more equitable one.

The history of China under foreign occupation and humiliation is not much different to what the Islamic world currently goes through now.

Just like Mao was a strong believer in supporting and uplifting the masses of people of the third world and rising countries, so too should Chinese members rediscover what made him so popular around the world.

One lesson for all of us to learn from the festering elephant of a corpse awaiting its imminent death is that we should never be so arrogant or haughty as the world’s sole superpower.

 

[moweike]

Past and present day the powerful have suppressed the weak. For example, al qeada and isis horrible treatment to minorities. I judge people on an individual basis, not by religion, race etc.

But you are not rational, you can only criticize

 

[Pan-Islamic-Pakistan]

mild criticism?yes，No country is perfect，why don't you pay attention to your own business? Is Pakistan perfect?

It is PDF, hence no foreigners should not be allowed to cripple debate on these important issues.

Pakistanis have diverse points of view and they should be allowed to give it, regardless if it offends your sensibilities.

If you want to mock Pakistan, maybe find another website.

President Xi has done a good job. He steer China to greater height among danger. Chinese can once again rise up on top of the world.

Yes, he has earned the confidence and support of many Muslims around the world as well.

You do a disservice to your country when you promote hate against Islam and Muslim.

 

[vi-va]

I don’t believe @Dai Toruko is a CIA agent, but actually he represents popular Turkish sentiment.

Uyghur issue is popular in Turkey as it represents an issue where the society can come together for fellow Turks.

Although the Islamic world does not have any enmity with China, which considered by us as a neutral and peripheral civilization, Turkish history does have conflict with China as a major part of its civilizational consciousness. Stories like what Turks went through during the times of Kürşat reinforce those negative feelings.

As far as Arab revolt, that represented a minority of Arabs, namely Sharifs of Makkah who became British stooges and the Ahl e Saud who rose with British, French support from the Najd wasteland. We can clearly see the foreign hands in this disunity of the Islamic Khilafat.

As far as Russia, it was during the rise of the time of the Czars, their extremist brand of Orthodox Christianity, and vengeance against the Golden Horde, that led to the first genocides of Muslim people of the Caucasus (Circassians), Crimea, Tatarstan, and Central Asia.

Russia invaded, conquered Turkish and Iranian land, which it consequently cleansed of Muslim populations.

Turkey was forced to absorb refugees and victims of those organized genocides.

As regards USSR, this country was an existential threat to the whole of the Islamic world, and it continued Russia’s history of displacing and massacring Muslim populations in Eurasia.

It was not until their bloody, and frankly villainous, invasion of Afghanistan (and Pakistan) that the whole of the Islamic world resolves to end this oppression. Pakistan played an important and key role in organizing the resistance and ensuring the final death nail to Soviet Russia.

In conclusion, I see many Chinese members do not understand the history and religious viewpoints of the majority of Muslims.

It would be wise to research the history and civilization of 25% of the human race, and soon to be the largest religious group on Earth.

So much of CPEC depends on Pakistan and Turkey. We have a mutual benefit in supplanting the current world order, in favor of a more equitable one.

The history of China under foreign occupation and humiliation is not much different to what the Islamic world currently goes through now.

Just like Mao was a strong believer in supporting and uplifting the masses of people of the third world and rising countries, so too should Chinese members rediscover what made him so popular around the world.

One lesson for all of us to learn from the festering elephant of a corpse awaiting its imminent death is that we should never be so arrogant or haughty as the world’s sole superpower.

I really like your post and like you as a friend in person. Your post is very educational to me and helped me to understand the Islam world.

Thank you, my pakistan friend.

I strongly believe Pakistan is the best friend of China and the bridge between Islam world and China.

I am so glad.

 

[Pan-Islamic-Pakistan]

It won't be gone with the support of the Chinese people, to be frank, I was extremely pro Pakistan and anti India before, but now much less so. now I m more for mending ties with India. and of course I also hope Pakistan and India can mend their ties.

Maybe time for you to move on.

Nothing that any Chinese person has said to abuse my religion, state, or culture has made me hate Chinese people.

Actually, it made me re-evaluate my previous misconceptions about Chinese Communists and Uyghur Muslims. I realized that much of this rhetoric is nothing but CIA propaganda.

We only get one side here in the West, and Muslims’ experiences with Soviet Russians has not helped in our views of Chinese Communism.

You should realize that on PDF, you have Pakistanis from all over the world who share totally different views from each other.

You may not like it, but it would serve you better to learn and understand than to simply discount others.

Regardless of whether people like you want it, China and the Islamic world are going to be pushed together even closer.

 

[moweike]

It is PDF, hence no foreigners should not be allowed to cripple debate on these important issues.

Pakistanis have diverse points of view and they should be allowed to give it, regardless if it offends your sensibilities.

If you want to mock Pakistan, maybe find another website.



Yes, he has earned the confidence and support of many Muslims around the world as well.

You do a disservice to your country when you promote hate against Islam and Muslim.

Please tell me, is this cultural extinction? If you can go to Xinjiang, you will see signs of Uighur writing.

 

[Beast]

It is PDF, hence no foreigners should not be allowed to cripple debate on these important issues.

Pakistanis have diverse points of view and they should be allowed to give it, regardless if it offends your sensibilities.

If you want to mock Pakistan, maybe find another website.



Yes, he has earned the confidence and support of many Muslims around the world as well.

You do a disservice to your country when you promote hate against Islam and Muslim.

He is against separatist and not Muslim. I know you are trying desperate to turn this into a China against Muslim issue.

https://foreignpolicy.com/2016/12/16/china-doesnt-mind-islamic-extremists/

Chinese is only against separatist. Religion or whatever. As long as you are not on boat of trying to crave out a piece of land from PRC. You are mostly free time to do what you deemed without harming innocent or against the law in China.

 

[vi-va]

Maybe time for you to move on.

Nothing that any Chinese person has said to abuse my religion, state, or culture has made me hate Chinese people.

Actually, it made me re-evaluate my previous misconceptions about Chinese Communists and Uyghur Muslims. I realized that much of this rhetoric is nothing but CIA propaganda.

We only get one side here in the West, and Muslims’ experiences with Soviet Russians has not helped in our views of Chinese Communism.

You should realize that on PDF, you have Pakistanis from all over the world who share totally different views from each other.

You may not like it, but it would serve you better to learn and understand than to simply discount others.

Regardless of whether people like you want it, China and the Islamic world are going to be pushed together even closer.

Well said. U.S. and UK exploited English dominance and use it as the best tool to manipulate people's mind.

But, it backfired on them as well. Now U.S. and UK are divided as well. There is no consensus on anything.

 

[moweike]

If China needs to destroy them,Why not go to family planning? for them,Is this not more efficient?

Unless you want to destroy and be independent

 

[Pan-Islamic-Pakistan]

I really like your post and like you as a friend in person. Your post is very educational to me and helped me to understand the Islam world.

Thank you, my pakistan friend.

I strongly believe Pakistan is the best friend of China and the bridge between Islam world and China.

I am so glad.

Pakistan is one nation which can never abandon or overlook its strategic partners and allies, and this is what gives us our strength and weakness.

Great allies like China and Turkey have never backstabbed us and always walk with us in every capacity they are able to.

We are intent to expand our relationship with other like-minded nations such as Malaysia, Azerbaijan, Qatar, Bosnia, Kosovo, North Cyprus, new government of Afghanistan.

As for our former friends who have backstabbed us, like KSA, UAE, other Arab gulf monarchies, and Iran, we will never forget this betrayal and we will pay it back.

Kashmir is the basis of our foreign policy and our wars with India have all mainly stemmed from this issue, even ‘71.

No one can deny the strategic importance of Pakistan as the gateway to four of the largest regions of Asia: ME, South Asia, Central Asia, and China.

As Trump and US begs Pakistan for an honorable exit and residual force in Afghanistan, Pakistan holds all the strings for the future of the region.

We do not respect double dealers and flip-flippers, as the Pakistani nation is an honorable one which is proud of its military prowess and its strong connection to Islamic teachings.

If anyone believes that Pakistan will go against our dear friend China, they should rethink again and again.

As for our great Turkish siblings, we afford you the same honor. No one will allow us to abandon North Cyprus and Nagorno-Karabakh. We won’t tolerate those who wish to harm Turkey with an Israeli proxy known as Kurd-e-stan.

 

[moweike]

Han chinese have a joke saying：minorities are first class citizens,Han nationality is a second-class citizen

In China, ethnic minorities enjoy more benefits than Han

But the West says that China bullies ethnic minorities

 

[Pan-Islamic-Pakistan]

I know you are trying desperate to turn this into a China against Muslim issue.

You are more extreme than him, therefore I don’t take your comments seriously.

Islam is a sacred thing for us Muslims, Pakistanis included.

Instead of using broad generalizations, educate yourself.

We are specifically avoiding generalizations of Chinese, Atheists, and Communists being spread from the West.

For our alliance with China, look at how Arab, Persian, Indian, Bangladeshi, and even African Muslims criticize us, claiming we abandoned Uyghurs.

Do not be ungrateful to your friend, you may be left alone like US.

Please tell me, is this cultural extinction? If you can go to Xinjiang, you will see signs of Uighur writing.

I think you misquoted me. I never doubted it.

 

[Sharky]

Good going. Every country should clamp down on radicals of all religion. I seriously wish we open such reeducation camps for all religious radicals in india.

 

[Beast]

You are more extreme than him, therefore I don’t take your comments seriously.

Islam is a sacred thing for us Muslims, Pakistanis included.

Instead of using broad generalizations, educate yourself.

We are specifically avoiding generalizations of Chinese, Atheists, and Communists being spread from the West.

For our alliance with China, look at how Arab, Persian, Indian, Bangladeshi, and even African Muslims criticize us, claiming we abandoned Uyghurs.

Do not be ungrateful to your friend, you may be left alone like US.



I think you misquoted me. I never doubted it.

You are just desperate to avoid my facts and inquiry. The extremist is you. Facts present but all you do is sidetrack and babble with your nonsense. Why you purposely miss out the Kurdish? Selective, right?