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Final Charges Dropped Over Indian AW101 Deal

He's a loudmouth with no actual insight into any of these deals, it scary that some people actually listen to him but this is the world we live in.

I've said since the start that there was no evidence of any wrongdoing in this deal all we were seeing was some political posturing in Italy, the Indian media got involved and we know what happened....

This is the mess that can be created when you have ignorant journalists chasing TRPs and not the news or facts....
If nobody listned to him, 2g scam would have been under the carpet.... he is a lose canon, but lot better than corruPt UPA. I think there is direct evidence of tyagi and co receiving favors from this company which itself is worrying...
 
Like I said, these are the most important people in your country- they are not like "everybody else" it is worth spending the extra few million to provide them that extra level of safety. Just like not everybody is driven in bulletproof cars and protected by SPG officers but surely the PM deserves such measures.

Currently they are using Mi 17 V5. Its proven, cheap, safe and can be used for military purpose if need arise. How is that not safe ?
 
I think there is direct evidence of tyagi and co receiving favors from this company which itself is worrying...
No there isn't, this was media slander. To this day no actual charges have been made against Tyagi despite the CBI investigation running for over a year now.

Watch in full:


This man's name, his family's and the IAF's have been dragged through the mud for more than 2 years now, finally the truth is out (soon the CBI will say as much).

Currently they are using Mi 17 V5. Its proven, cheap, safe and can be used for military purpose if need arise. How is that not safe ?

Nope, V5s are not being used (that has been incorrectly stated in the media) but the same vintage Mi-8s that are at the end of their lifespan within a few months.

The V5 itself is not truly acceptable for head of state transport- the entire Mi-8 and Mi-17 family (including the V5) make use of only a single-channel hydraulics-control system under which the hydraulic actuators of all four control circuits are mounted in a single hydraulic package on the main gearbox, together with other parts of hydraulic system. In all Western multi-engined helicopters, however, this is seen as inherently unsafe and thus they use a dual-channel hydraulics-control system. The idea the V5 will offer as much safety as the three engined AW-101 is entirely false so I reiterate my point- for the senior most officials in India is it not right to get the safest possible aircraft (which the AW-101 is by the way)? There is no point in cutting corners to save a few dollars- India is no longer that poor.
 
No there isn't, this was media slander. To this day no actual charges have been made against Tyagi despite the CBI investigation running for over a year now.

Watch in full:


This man's name, his family's and the IAF's have been dragged through the mud for more than 2 years now, finally the truth is out (soon the CBI will say as much).



Nope, V5s are not being used (that has been incorrectly stated in the media) but the same vintage Mi-8s that are at the end of their lifespan within a few months.

The V5 itself is not truly acceptable for head of state transport- the entire Mi-8 and Mi-17 family (including the V5) make use of only a single-channel hydraulics-control system under which the hydraulic actuators of all four control circuits are mounted in a single hydraulic package on the main gearbox, together with other parts of hydraulic system. In all Western multi-engined helicopters, however, this is seen as inherently unsafe and thus they use a dual-channel hydraulics-control system. The idea the V5 will offer as much safety as the three engined AW-101 is entirely false so I reiterate my point- for the senior most officials in India is it not right to get the safest possible aircraft (which the AW-101 is by the way)? There is no point in cutting corners to save a few dollars- India is no longer that poor.
Question is why? If he was falsely implecated, it was solely due to UPA corruption. What Swamy has to do with that? It is funny that some people has to mention him while supporting the corrupt openly....
 
Question is why? If he was falsely implecated, it was solely due to UPA corruption.
Not really, as has been pointed out- there is no real indication of any corruption/wrongdoing when it comes to this deal on the Indian side (the IAF OR GoI/UPA).

What Swamy has to do with that?

I'm not the one who brought him up, he is irrelevant.
 
Not really, as has been pointed out- there is no real indication of any corruption/wrongdoing when it comes to this deal on the Indian side (the IAF OR GoI/UPA).



I'm not the one who brought him up, he is irrelevant.
The corruption I was talking is about implicating someone falsely. I mean, if there wasn't any evidence and CBI still kept on witch hunting, it is only because of its masters asked it to do it. Since it was UPA at that time, one can put 2+2 together. And my observation wasn't for you but to the guy who brought swamy's name w/o reason..
 
The corruption I was talking is about implicating someone falsely. I mean, if there wasn't any evidence and CBI still kept on witch hunting, it is only because of its masters asked it to do it. Since it was UPA at that time, one can put 2+2 together
To be honest I don't think it was about a "witch hunt" but the UPA/GoI, more specifically Antony, bowing down to public pressure and attempting to look like they were doing "something" on perceived wrongdoing. The way the Indian media were reporting they were making out that the GoI's inaction was proof of corruption on their behalf and thus inaction became politically unviable for the MoD/Antony.

Of course the DM/MoD/GoI could (should) have come out, made a public statement outlining the lengths the MoD now goes to to rule out any actual acts of corruption when it comes to defence deals and that there was no evidence of wrongdoing. They could even have still initiated the investigation but to cancel the deal unilaterally before either their own investigation had been completed just demonstrates the length the great "Saint" was willing to go to protect his image- the armed forces be damned.
 
You're commiting the sin of saying that there was no wrong doing in a UPA deal. Subramania Swamy will now say Sonia made the Italian court drop the charges. He has already claimed that Sonia skimmed off $2 B off the Rafale deal.
To be honest I don't think it was about a "witch hunt" but the UPA/GoI, more specifically Antony, bowing down to public pressure and attempting to look like they were doing "something" on perceived wrongdoing. The way the Indian media were reporting they were making out that the GoI's inaction was proof of corruption on their behalf and thus inaction became politically unviable for the MoD/Antony.
& that is why these media trials and judgement by experts should stop. Court of law and investigation agencies are there to find out the truth, but here we have a fetish for sensationalism and media knows how to take advantage of that.
Its is a really sorry state that even in matters if national security, petty gossip, selective propaganda and rumor mongering is taken by most people as something substantiate.

This man's name, his family's and the IAF's have been dragged through the mud for more than 2 years now, finally the truth is out (soon the CBI will say as much).
& God alone knows how to compensate for loss of a man's honor in public domain.
Bet no newspaper or news channel ever issues an apology for tarnishing anyone's image.
So much for serving the country.
 
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