Famous Lawyer Asma Jahangir Passes away

[Taimoor Khan]

English media is hell bend on presenting her as a "famous" woman with huge following.

I have seen more people attending the funeral of random baba living in anonymity then her funeral. Where are her followers during her last rites?


Indeed, Allah honour those who he is satisfied with in hereafter but also when they die.

 

[WaLeEdK2]

She herself said on live television she doesn't have a religion. In reality, her supporters are insulting her by even performing a namaz-e-janaaza. But I guess common sense is too much to ask for these days.

 

[Solomon2]

She herself said on live television she doesn't have a religion.

Must you use this thread to demean Islam and Muslims? Because that's what you're doing when you're asserting a widely-admired Pakistani has no religion.

 

[313ghazi]

Must you use this thread to demean Islam and Muslims? Because that's what you're doing when you're asserting a widely-admired Pakistani has no religion.

no he's not. She said it herself. She said she considered all religions equal and didn't personally have a religion. Nothing wrong with that, she's an atheist - in this day and age that is normal. I can provide you the video of her interview if you can understand Urdu.

https://twitter.com/x/status/963047820986060800

 

[El Sidd]

Must you use this thread to demean Islam and Muslims? Because that's what you're doing when you're asserting a widely-admired Pakistani has no religion.

No actually as i was reading this .I thought wait Pakistani atheist if they do not leave certain exact follow ups. What is the states responsbility.

Well its an islamic country so everyone just assumes you are muslim. But what about inheritance.

Your post is quite thought provoking.

Thanks

 

[WaLeEdK2]

Must you use this thread to demean Islam and Muslims? Because that's what you're doing when you're asserting a widely-admired Pakistani has no religion.

She herself said it. Not my fault. Nothing wrong with calling a spade a spade.

 

[Solomon2]

no he's not. She said it herself.

I'm not disputing that.

I can provide you the video of her interview if you can understand Urdu.

That's most generous of you but I can't understand Urdu.

 

[313ghazi]

No actually as i was reading this .I thought wait Pakistani atheist if they do not leave certain exact follow ups. What is the states responsbility.

Well its an islamic country so everyone just assumes you are muslim. But what about inheritance.

Your post is quite thought provoking.

Thanks

Actually i wondered this myself. There must be tens of thousands of atheists in our society, maybe more. Can they declare themselves as such on government forms?

 

[WaLeEdK2]

https://twitter.com/x/status/963075828102959110

 

[Spring Onion]

Durdana Najam


It was Asma Jahangir’s courage, to stand up to the tyrant and injustice that made even her worst enemy, falls in line with many of her decisions. Her fight against the military governments in Pakistan earned her the reputation of being an Indian agent. She was painted Pakistan’s worst enemy. As soon as the news of her death hit the headline, a segment of society, brainwashed since on the security narrative that India is behind every problem Pakistan encounters, spewed venom against her. Then there is the Khatm-e-Nabuwait group for whom the world is now a much better place to live in after her demise. This mixture of military-mullah narrative has poisoned the general debating culture of the country. Where people are only tuned to hear what they think is right, dividing the society into small groups, each with its brand of narrative about what Pakistan should be. It is therefore that the identity crisis of Pakistan has not been resolved even after 70 years. Asma’s fight was cantered on this very dilemma. She struggled to give Pakistan the identity its founding fathers had envisioned. She wanted a Pakistan where democracy—— the rule of law , freedom of speech, protection of the fundamental rights of the people, separation of power and judiciary and due process of law—-reigned. Her every step during the struggle to justice pounded on the errors that could disfigure democratic norms. In the process, she made more enemies than friends in the military circle that had refrained even to condole her death. Sindh is the only provincial government to have taken the courage to declare one day of mourning while requesting the federal government to allow lowering the flag at half-mast. Today she would be buried and the flag of Pakistan, though may not have been lowered, would be proud of its daughter who had fought all her way to keep this flag rise in pride and glory.

It is Pakistan’s tragedy that it has failed to recognise its heroes. It dare not look into the eyes of its critic on the premise that nationalism sans military glorification is nothing but being anti-state. Benazir Bhutto, Nawaz Sharif and even Fatima Jinnah were declared Indian agents and security threats. The theory is that no one in Pakistan could love this country more than the military establishment. The only formula devised to gauge a Pakistanis love for his/her country is the level of support given to the narrative advanced by Khakis. Beyond that everything is murky and it was in this murkiness that Asma’s affair with democracy began and ended...

exaggeration.
anyway she may find peace finally in the other world.

 

[Solomon2]

exaggeration...

Be specific.

 

[El Sidd]

Actually i wondered this myself. There must be tens of thousands of atheists in our society, maybe more. Can they declare themselves as such on government forms?

I really dont know. But we have a sizeable atheist community.

People just assume you are muslim just a cazy one if you talk to them. If you are like shouting at people there is no god. That wont be nice. I guess people dont like being forced in Pakistan.

Sadly this narrative does not sell and we are made out as some crazy *** extremists.

 

[Sine Nomine]

Gross exaggeration*
anyway she may find peace finally in the other world.

 

[Spring Onion]

Be specific.

she was controversial figure embroiled in all kinds of controversies hence such figures end up being loved and hated at the same time. it is not about the mullah and military since how many of us even know all those narratives being peddled by her block in her favour and the other block against her. Hardly many. Both sides should accept the right to express by the other. anyway RIP

 

[Ahmad Sajjad Paracha]

Nawaz will get to Hell and start asking Kiyon Nikala , Jalsa start ker dega

Correction "kyun dala mujay"