F-60 / J-31 stealth fighter aircraft for Pakistan Air Force?

[cirr]

It's only a matter of time：

 

[mil-avia]

PAF to acquire 36 5th generation combat aircraft from China

 

[Dr. Strangelove]

PAF to acquire 36 5th generation combat aircraft from China

ha ha
thats j10 it comes IN 4++ CATAGORY NOT 5TH

 

[Nishan_101]

It's only a matter of time：

We all are waiting to see that PAC comes out with JF-17 Block-II with its dual seat as well. I am 100% sure that if they are given money then 120 JF-17 Block-II(single and dual seats) will be produced and about 45-50 dual seats for CSS Pakistan.

 

[Dr. Strangelove]

^^^^day dreamer

 

[Super Falcon]

i dont know why pakistan airforce is still want to buy or make single jet engine fighters. i dont get it their planning is nil for me smaller countries like indonesia UAE qatar and whole middle east going for twin engine jet

 

[giant panda]

j20 or j31?

 

[Najam Khan]

j20 or j31?

Forget both till 2018, even PLAAF may not get these by then. Mature and trust-worthy platform is not so easy-to-get, especially when your are talking about an advance(and complicated) air frame with the best avionics.

Ref to ACM Tahir's interview in Janes posted by you.
Interesting play of words and hints about this-and-that; no clear stance given on JF-17/J-10/more F-16s procurement (hardly possible).

 

[kurutoga]

Given the status of J31 or project 310, I would not be surprised it only goes to an air force after 2020. PLAAF may not order it at all - that means funding is an issue after the initial stage. And the engine for the production model of J31 is not yet known/available.

 

[That Guy]

i dont know why pakistan airforce is still want to buy or make single jet engine fighters. i dont get it their planning is nil for me smaller countries like indonesia UAE qatar and whole middle east going for twin engine jet

Mainly money constraints. Twin engine aircrafts tend to cost a lot of money to operate and maintain, and Pakistan doesn't have that sort of cash at the moment.

 

[mil-avia]

J-20 should be in customized version for Pakistan Air force by 2022.

 

[That Guy]

J-20 should be in customized version for Pakistan Air force by 2022.

Why are you posting weird google links?

 

[rockstar08]

insufficient funds ...

 

[HAIDER]

A PLA Navy official has confirmed to state-run media outlets that China will export the Shenyang J-31 twin-engine fifth generation fighter jet.

According to the Taiwan-based Want China Times, Admiral Zhang Zhaozhong told the Peoples Daily this week that the J-31 was never built with Chinas military in mind, and it was highly unlikely that the PLA would ever operate J-31s off of its aircraft carriers. Instead, the J-31 was designed for export to Chinas strategic partners and allies, particularly those that couldnt purchase the F-35.

The J-31, often referred to as the Falcon Hawk, Falcon Eagle, F-60 or J-21, is one of Chinas two prototype fifth-generation aircraft, the other being the J-20. It is built by Shenyang Aircraft Corporation, and images of the aircraft first began appearing on the internet around this time last year.

Photos of the J-31 allegedly conducting its first test run surfaced last November, followed by a one-quarter scale model of the stealth fighter being showcased the same month at the China International Aviation and Aerospace Exhibition, Chinas largest airshow. It was identified only as the Advanced Fighter Concept at the show, although reports in Chinas state-run media said that prototype was a J-31. More recently, last month, the Global Times posted a picture of a J-31 doing a test run on its online edition.

Previous reports in Chinas state-run media have been mixed as to whether the J-31 would serve as the PLAs future carrier-based fighter, or whether it was intended for foreign customers. Sun Cong, the chief designer of both Chinas current carrier-based aircraft, the J-15, as well as the J-31, told the Peoples Daily earlier this year that future versions of the J-31 might become China next-generation carrier-borne fighter jet. However, representatives from the Aviation Industry Corporation of China, a state-owned aerospace company that displayed the prototype at the airshow last November, billed it at the time as intended for export.

An article in the Peoples Daily at the end of last month did little to clarify matters. The article referred to the J-31 as a fourth-generation stealth fighter, while also saying that is comparable to the U.S. F-35 fighter jets. The report first said that it would be exported abroad as a competitor to the F-35, before discussing the possibility that it will be Chinas next carrier-borne fighter.

Experts predict that the J-31 will make rapid inroads in the international market in the future, and will undoubtedly steal the limelight from the F-35, the Peoples Daily report said, noting also that competition to sell the fighter jets to international customers was becoming a new variable in the Sino-US strategic game.

The report added that, The J-31, with its main target as the export market, represents a serious threat to U.S. arms manufacturers. Later in the same article, however, Peoples Daily noted that the planes landing gear was built to sustain the impact of landing on a carrier better than the current J-15s, and therefore might be used as Chinas future carrier-based jet.

One possibility is that China is building both a domestic and export version of the aircraft. Some foreign news outlets have indeed said that China may sell a version of the aircraft abroad under the name F-60, while maintaining a fleet of domestic J-31s for the PLA.

With so little known about the J-31, its hard to gauge how credible Chinas claims are that the J-31 is a low-cost alternative to the F-35. In a report in Defense News last August, shortly after the first few images of the plane surfaced, Project 2049 Institutes Robert Cliff dismissed the notion that the J-31 would pose a serious threat to the F-35 in terms of overseas sales.

India wont buy it. Russia wont buy it, Cliff noted, adding: That pretty much leaves countries like Pakistan, Brazil, some Middle East countries, none of whom [the U.S. is] likely to sell the F-35 to anytime this decade or next.

He also said that he did not believe Saudi Arabia was interested in the plane.

Pakistan is perhaps the most likely foreign purchaser of the fighter. Pakistan and China previously jointly developed the JF-17 Thunder advanced fighter, although only Islamabad has ended up purchasing the jet thus far. This week Pakistani officials called on China to increase cooperation in the area of defense production. Beijing has long helped Islamabad acquire the necessary knowledge and expertise to develop a more advanced domestic defense industry.
China Says J-31 Fighter Will Compete With F-35 for Sales | Flashpoints | The Diplomat

 

[Black Eagle 90]

A PLA Navy official has confirmed to state-run media outlets that China will export the Shenyang J-31 twin-engine fifth generation fighter jet.

According to the Taiwan-based Want China Times, Admiral Zhang Zhaozhong told the Peoples Daily this week that the J-31 was never built with Chinas military in mind, and it was highly unlikely that the PLA would ever operate J-31s off of its aircraft carriers. Instead, the J-31 was designed for export to Chinas strategic partners and allies, particularly those that couldnt purchase the F-35.

The J-31, often referred to as the Falcon Hawk, Falcon Eagle, F-60 or J-21, is one of Chinas two prototype fifth-generation aircraft, the other being the J-20. It is built by Shenyang Aircraft Corporation, and images of the aircraft first began appearing on the internet around this time last year.

Photos of the J-31 allegedly conducting its first test run surfaced last November, followed by a one-quarter scale model of the stealth fighter being showcased the same month at the China International Aviation and Aerospace Exhibition, Chinas largest airshow. It was identified only as the Advanced Fighter Concept at the show, although reports in Chinas state-run media said that prototype was a J-31. More recently, last month, the Global Times posted a picture of a J-31 doing a test run on its online edition.

Previous reports in Chinas state-run media have been mixed as to whether the J-31 would serve as the PLAs future carrier-based fighter, or whether it was intended for foreign customers. Sun Cong, the chief designer of both Chinas current carrier-based aircraft, the J-15, as well as the J-31, told the Peoples Daily earlier this year that future versions of the J-31 might become China next-generation carrier-borne fighter jet. However, representatives from the Aviation Industry Corporation of China, a state-owned aerospace company that displayed the prototype at the airshow last November, billed it at the time as intended for export.

An article in the Peoples Daily at the end of last month did little to clarify matters. The article referred to the J-31 as a fourth-generation stealth fighter, while also saying that is comparable to the U.S. F-35 fighter jets. The report first said that it would be exported abroad as a competitor to the F-35, before discussing the possibility that it will be Chinas next carrier-borne fighter.

Experts predict that the J-31 will make rapid inroads in the international market in the future, and will undoubtedly steal the limelight from the F-35, the Peoples Daily report said, noting also that competition to sell the fighter jets to international customers was becoming a new variable in the Sino-US strategic game.

The report added that, The J-31, with its main target as the export market, represents a serious threat to U.S. arms manufacturers. Later in the same article, however, Peoples Daily noted that the planes landing gear was built to sustain the impact of landing on a carrier better than the current J-15s, and therefore might be used as Chinas future carrier-based jet.

One possibility is that China is building both a domestic and export version of the aircraft. Some foreign news outlets have indeed said that China may sell a version of the aircraft abroad under the name F-60, while maintaining a fleet of domestic J-31s for the PLA.

With so little known about the J-31, its hard to gauge how credible Chinas claims are that the J-31 is a low-cost alternative to the F-35. In a report in Defense News last August, shortly after the first few images of the plane surfaced, Project 2049 Institutes Robert Cliff dismissed the notion that the J-31 would pose a serious threat to the F-35 in terms of overseas sales.

India wont buy it. Russia wont buy it, Cliff noted, adding: That pretty much leaves countries like Pakistan, Brazil, some Middle East countries, none of whom [the U.S. is] likely to sell the F-35 to anytime this decade or next.

He also said that he did not believe Saudi Arabia was interested in the plane.

Pakistan is perhaps the most likely foreign purchaser of the fighter. Pakistan and China previously jointly developed the JF-17 Thunder advanced fighter, although only Islamabad has ended up purchasing the jet thus far. This week Pakistani officials called on China to increase cooperation in the area of defense production. Beijing has long helped Islamabad acquire the necessary knowledge and expertise to develop a more advanced domestic defense industry.
China Says J-31 Fighter Will Compete With F-35 for Sales | Flashpoints | The Diplomat

The JF-17 program will not end at all rather. PAF would going to co-produce J-31 locally and I am sure they are in talks with China since 2 years or so.

I am sure we all are going to see at least 250-300 JF-17s in total and we are hoping to produce about 110+ JF-17 Block-IIs along with its dual seat which might have been started at PAC but not disclosed due to security issues.

Also they will acquire additional JF-17 Block-IIs dual seat about 50 of them for CCS training and another 50 from Block-IIIs.