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Source from Indian air force told idrw.org that F-35 is not the back up plan of Indian air force if talks with MMRCA tender winner Dassault for French Rafale planes fails . Negotiations on MMRCA with French have reached a critical level and negotiations on transfer of critical technology are been discussed but denied that talks have stalled with French , but hinted that it was not smooth due to French stubbornness on critical TOT of the aircrafts .
When asked if talks fails what will be the course ? , source told that Eurofighter and its developers will come into picture since they were the second choice , but showed confidence that MMRCA talks with French company will sail though even though the negotiations are not smooth .
Lockheed martin had only briefed Indian navy on their 5th Generation fighter F-35 some time back , but with delays in manufacturing of Indias First carrier IAC-1 , Navy seems to have put it in back burner and is supporting Locally built Naval-Tejas and recently placed orders for 8 N-LCA based on MK-1 platform for training their pilots and is hoping N-LCA MK-2 will be ready by turn of this decade .
F-35 is not back up plan for MMRCA : Source | idrw.org
Manufacturing Details Stall Franco-Indian MMCRA Negotiations
More than 10 months after India chose the French Rafale to meet its $15 billion medium multi-role combat aircraft (MMRCA) requirement, contract negotiations are mired in issues related to offsets, the transfer of technology and the role of Hindustan Aeronautics (HAL). The Press Trust of India quoted industry sources as saying that Dassault has requested from the Indian Ministry of Defence the freedom to decide the proportion of work to be done by HAL, versus private Indian companies. Last February, Dassault signed an MoU with Reliance Industry, India’s largest private-sector company, for collaboration in manufacturing.
At a French parliamentary hearing on December 4, Dassault Aviation CEO Charles Edelstenne expressed “relative optimism” about the progress of talks. “It’s a complicated country, the negotiations are tough, but there is a desire to wrap up on both sides,” he added. Of the 126 aircraft envisioned, 18 are to be delivered as flyaways and the rest to be manufactured in India, with final assembly by HAL.
An official told AIN that HAL needs to define a partner that will facilitate Tier 2 and 3 suppliers, or assume that responsibility itself. Proponents of HAL say that the government-owned company has far more experience in selecting suppliers for high-technology defense projects than private companies such as Reliance or Tata.
One vendor noted that since India lacks the appropriate level of avionics and engine production capability, “there is no clarity on how value can be added by Indian industry and 50-percent offsets absorbed.” The MMRCA project does not fall within the new and more liberal defense offsets policy that permits them to be sourced from adjacent sectors such as homeland security and commercial aviation.
Elections are looming in 2014, and while reports have indicated the contract could be signed early next year, the government, fearing reprisals from opposition parties, is unlikely to proceed unless matters are ironed out in the next few months. One defense official suggested to AIN that if decisions are deferred beyond the election, the MMRCArequirement might be cut to around 60 aircraft as newer solutions–such as the Indo-Russian fifth-generation fighter aircraft, and unmanned combat air vehicles–become available.
When asked if talks fails what will be the course ? , source told that Eurofighter and its developers will come into picture since they were the second choice , but showed confidence that MMRCA talks with French company will sail though even though the negotiations are not smooth .
Lockheed martin had only briefed Indian navy on their 5th Generation fighter F-35 some time back , but with delays in manufacturing of Indias First carrier IAC-1 , Navy seems to have put it in back burner and is supporting Locally built Naval-Tejas and recently placed orders for 8 N-LCA based on MK-1 platform for training their pilots and is hoping N-LCA MK-2 will be ready by turn of this decade .
F-35 is not back up plan for MMRCA : Source | idrw.org
Manufacturing Details Stall Franco-Indian MMCRA Negotiations
More than 10 months after India chose the French Rafale to meet its $15 billion medium multi-role combat aircraft (MMRCA) requirement, contract negotiations are mired in issues related to offsets, the transfer of technology and the role of Hindustan Aeronautics (HAL). The Press Trust of India quoted industry sources as saying that Dassault has requested from the Indian Ministry of Defence the freedom to decide the proportion of work to be done by HAL, versus private Indian companies. Last February, Dassault signed an MoU with Reliance Industry, India’s largest private-sector company, for collaboration in manufacturing.
At a French parliamentary hearing on December 4, Dassault Aviation CEO Charles Edelstenne expressed “relative optimism” about the progress of talks. “It’s a complicated country, the negotiations are tough, but there is a desire to wrap up on both sides,” he added. Of the 126 aircraft envisioned, 18 are to be delivered as flyaways and the rest to be manufactured in India, with final assembly by HAL.
An official told AIN that HAL needs to define a partner that will facilitate Tier 2 and 3 suppliers, or assume that responsibility itself. Proponents of HAL say that the government-owned company has far more experience in selecting suppliers for high-technology defense projects than private companies such as Reliance or Tata.
One vendor noted that since India lacks the appropriate level of avionics and engine production capability, “there is no clarity on how value can be added by Indian industry and 50-percent offsets absorbed.” The MMRCA project does not fall within the new and more liberal defense offsets policy that permits them to be sourced from adjacent sectors such as homeland security and commercial aviation.
Elections are looming in 2014, and while reports have indicated the contract could be signed early next year, the government, fearing reprisals from opposition parties, is unlikely to proceed unless matters are ironed out in the next few months. One defense official suggested to AIN that if decisions are deferred beyond the election, the MMRCArequirement might be cut to around 60 aircraft as newer solutions–such as the Indo-Russian fifth-generation fighter aircraft, and unmanned combat air vehicles–become available.
